A "Legend" Reborn: Logitech Brings Back the MX518 Gaming Mouse

lcpiper

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OK, I've had mine for a few days now and the first thing I noticed is that it feels like a mouse should feel. In other words, it feels "normal" to me because I used MX518s for so many years in the past. With one exception, the top surface makes my hands sweat a little. Not too uncomfortable, but it's noticeable. Still, I think I'm adjusting to it. What's more, it may feel "normal" as I said earlier, but I know the bits and pieces inside have been updated and that it's actually improved over what the mouse used to be. But it also means it's right for the performance we are currently used to so that's a plus you may not ever notice but is there all the same.
 

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I had to get a G400S to replace my MX518 when it finally died.
Now I can return the favor.
 

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Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. I'll do more testing. Keep us posted how you modded yours.

Not much to be afraid of. Just request an RMA. Use the existing one until you get the replacement :)

I've only used Logitechs RMA process once (for a set of speakers) but from what I recall it went fairly smoothly.
 

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The one time I had to RMA something to Logitech it went very smoothly. Once proof of purchase was confirmed I had a new mouse in my hands within a week. They didn't even want the old mouse back (G400) - so I repaired the faulty cable and it is still working to this day.

Thanks for the great pics, Zara. There are a few things I noticed:

A couple screws in the top shell makes me think the silver shiny cover can be removed and possibly swapped out. It would be cool to have the new innards and the old 'dented' look of the original 518, or even the red or blue colored section from a 510 - assuming the shape of those inserts is the same.

Interesting little teflon pad around the sensor. Alot like what they did with the G Pro, and 502 tho that one is done differently. I like the extra pad around the center.

Proper strain relief for the cord - something the 510,518, and G400 didn't have - and the reason my G400 failed and got RMA'd. 510 failed in that spot as well, but outlasted the warranty. Fortunately it is an easy fix.

Was good thinking to test the putty. I thought it would have been conductive.

Thanks for the pics and write-up on your mod. I don't like a excessively heavy mouse but I don't like featherweight light either. I am a little concerned I might have to add something to mine once I (eventually) get one.
 

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The one time I had to RMA something to Logitech it went very smoothly. Once proof of purchase was confirmed I had a new mouse in my hands within a week. They didn't even want the old mouse back (G400) - so I repaired the faulty cable and it is still working to this day.

Thanks for the great pics, Zara. There are a few things I noticed:

A couple screws in the top shell makes me think the silver shiny cover can be removed and possibly swapped out. It would be cool to have the new innards and the old 'dented' look of the original 518, or even the red or blue colored section from a 510 - assuming the shape of those inserts is the same.

Interesting little teflon pad around the sensor. Alot like what they did with the G Pro, and 502 tho that one is done differently. I like the extra pad around the center.

Proper strain relief for the cord - something the 510,518, and G400 didn't have - and the reason my G400 failed and got RMA'd. 510 failed in that spot as well, but outlasted the warranty. Fortunately it is an easy fix.

Was good thinking to test the putty. I thought it would have been conductive.

Thanks for the pics and write-up on your mod. I don't like a excessively heavy mouse but I don't like featherweight light either. I am a little concerned I might have to add something to mine once I (eventually) get one.

You are right. It would be pretty cool to put the old school bump type top on this mouse.

I didn't check if it came off as it wasn't a part of my project, and I'd it does, I have no idea if the dimensions and screw Hole locatipns are identical.

You'd have to find one though. May need to come off of a donor mouse, and in that case it might be pretty worn at this point ...


My favorite pattern of all time was the semi metallic, semi camo pattern cover on the original G500. I had worn a bunch of that pattern off by the time I replaced mine though

I never had an original MX518. What was that bump pattern cover like? Plastic with a painted bump pattern?
 

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You are right. It would be pretty cool to put the old school bump type top on this mouse.

I didn't check if it came off as it wasn't a part of my project, and I'd it does, I have no idea if the dimensions and screw Hole locatipns are identical.

You'd have to find one though. May need to come off of a donor mouse, and in that case it might be pretty worn at this point ...


My favorite pattern of all time was the semi metallic, semi camo pattern cover on the original G500. I had worn a bunch of that pattern off by the time I replaced mine though

I never had an original MX518. What was that bump pattern cover like? Plastic with a painted bump pattern?


Right, it wasn't textured at all, just the "painted" pattern gave it the dented bump look.

At the same time, although smooth, it's not the same kind of smooth as the remake. The remake is so smooth it makes my hands sweat which I don't remember from the original as being an issue.

Of course, a modder would just get some fine grit sandpaper and make the texture what he wanted, then break out the vinyl dye.
 

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Right, it wasn't textured at all, just the "painted" pattern gave it the dented bump look.

At the same time, although smooth, it's not the same kind of smooth as the remake. The remake is so smooth it makes my hands sweat which I don't remember from the original as being an issue.

Of course, a modder would just get some fine grit sandpaper and make the texture what he wanted, then break out the vinyl dye.

Plastidip maybe? :p
 

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Oddly enough yes, although I am not into car modding or anything, which is what I assume this is referring to? Sorry I have no idea what youre talking about. lol


Not sure why, but plastidip is surprisingly popular for car modding in VW communities like VW Vortex.
 

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Yo Logitech..what about the G7 variation for those of us who hate dealing with wires? That is still hands down your best wireless mouse and it has gotten damned impossible to find batteries.

Edit: G7 not 700..sorry on cold meds screwing with my brain.
G7 was the best mouse ever. I bought 2 of them, all of them burned down after 1-2 years, the sensor produced too much heat. Other than that the shape was perfect. I no longer had to warmup like I needed with wired mice and the accuracy was the best possible in the game I played professionally. I own a G603 now, but its ergonomy is crap compared to G7 and because of it the accuracy isn't the best either. You cannot grab it properly. Even my G400 is not as good as the G7 was. It would be nice to 3d print the shape somehow on a current mouse.
 

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The 400 in G400 is actually the number of mice I went though.

Fucking cable made out of rice paper.
Interesting because, I have two G402's I use everyday and at least so far, I have had no issues with the mice.

I see both sides of this.

I've never had a G4xx, but I have used G5, G500, G502, and now the reborn MX518.

I wouldn't say cable failure has been a rampant issue, but when the G5 and G500 finally went, it was the cable that did them in. First that mesh surrounding the cable started getting bunched up and tearing, and then over time the connection became intermittent. This was after 5-10 years of heavy use though. I passed the G502 down to my stepson after I got the new MX518's and that cable looks like it is on it's way out too, but again that's after 6 years of heavy use.

So, the cable is definitely the weak point on Logitech's mice IMHO, but only to the point where it fails when the mouse is probably due for replacement anyway.
 

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I see both sides of this.

I've never had a G4xx, but I have used G5, G500, G502, and now the reborn MX518.

I wouldn't say cable failure has been a rampant issue, but when the G5 and G500 finally went, it was the cable that did them in. First that mesh surrounding the cable started getting bunched up and tearing, and then over time the connection became intermittent. This was after 5-10 years of heavy use though. I passed the G502 down to my stepson after I got the new MX518's and that cable looks like it is on it's way out too, but again that's after 6 years of heavy use.

So, the cable is definitely the weak point on Logitech's mice IMHO, but only to the point where it fails when the mouse is probably due for replacement anyway.

Oh, ok. One thing is certain, the original MX518 lasts what seems like forever. I gave someone mine about 5 years or so ago, since I was no longer using it.
 

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All of those MX500 series mice did.
Not really my MX510 failed after 2 years. I think it overheated just like the G7s. I was properly addicted to first person shooters back then, and sometimes played 12+ hours a day, so no wonder it did not last long. Sensors were pretty inefficient those times and produced a lot of heat.
 
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The 400 in G400 is actually the number of mice I went though.

Fucking cable made out of rice paper.
You can replace the cable. I heard that there are flexible cables out there (they are called paracord I think) https://paracablemods.co.uk/, but they lack some safety stuff we have in normal cables. One guy makes them in my country too, but I no longer use my G400. I just kept it for the case I need a mouse for my server, laptop, etc., so it does not make sense to replace the cable on it.
 

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I remember getting a lot of use out of my MX518 back in the day. Then went onto the G5, and then G500. I remember all my friends had the MX518 too. It's a legend.

Having said that, one day I bought a Zowie mouse and never looked back. Going back to my previous Logitech mice, I realized none of them ever felt "just right" in my grip, but both of my Zowie mice of different models are fantastic.
 

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I remember getting a lot of use out of my MX518 back in the day. Then went onto the G5, and then G500. I remember all my friends had the MX518 too. It's a legend.

Having said that, one day I bought a Zowie mouse and never looked back. Going back to my previous Logitech mice, I realized none of them ever felt "just right" in my grip, but both of my Zowie mice of different models are fantastic.

I've never heard of Zowie. I will have to research them.

Everyone's hands are different though. Mine tend to be on the large side, so the large rounded body of the MX518/G5/G500 has fit my hands better than anything else I have used.

I also like heavy mice, which is why I loved running the G5/G500 with their weight cartridges maxed out.

When I got the new relaunched mx518 I was pretty disappointed in how light it was. I cracked open the case and added 3oz (85g) of pinewood derby tungsten putty to it, and now it feels perfect.

Out of the box it weighed 101g. With my putty mod it now weighs 186g, and it feels perfect to me.
 
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I see both sides of this.

I've never had a G4xx, but I have used G5, G500, G502, and now the reborn MX518.

I wouldn't say cable failure has been a rampant issue, but when the G5 and G500 finally went, it was the cable that did them in. First that mesh surrounding the cable started getting bunched up and tearing, and then over time the connection became intermittent. This was after 5-10 years of heavy use though. I passed the G502 down to my stepson after I got the new MX518's and that cable looks like it is on it's way out too, but again that's after 6 years of heavy use.

So, the cable is definitely the weak point on Logitech's mice IMHO, but only to the point where it fails when the mouse is probably due for replacement anyway.
How are your cables getting bunched up? I have never had that issue with the braided cables that Logitech uses. Or the standard cables, for that matter. Sounds like a user issue.
Not really my MX510 failed after 2 years. I think it overheated just like the G7s. I was properly addicted to first person shooters back then, and sometimes played 12+ hours a day, so no wonder it did not last long. Sensors were pretty inefficient those times and produced a lot of heat.
My MX510 lasted almost 12 years. I replaced it because the the scroll wheel wore down completely, and I didn't feel like fixing or replacing it. It saw the same kind of use yours did in addition to being used for my university work.
 

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You can replace the cable. I heard that there are flexible cables out there (they are called paracord I think) https://paracablemods.co.uk/, but they lack some safety stuff we have in normal cables. One guy makes them in my country too, but I no longer use my G400. I just kept it for the case I need a mouse for my server, laptop, etc., so it does not make sense to replace the cable on it.
I know, but they replaced it instantly for nothing every time. A Aouple times they made me physically cut the cable and take a picture. As soon as I mentioned cable issue, support was jumping to ship a replacement. I went through 5 or 6 in total.

Ironically, I bought it because they advertised that they reinforced the cable because it was an issue with the 518s.

There was never any visible damage, the failure point was always internal. Didn't matter what I tried. They all died the same way eventually.

Got pissed off and bought a deathaadder at some point. Worked fine for years until I bought the new 518.
 

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I've never heard of Zowie. I will have to research them.

Everyone's hands are different though. Mine tend to be on the large side, so the large rounded body of the MX518/G5/G500 has fit my hands better than anything else I have used.

I also like heavy mice, which is why I loved running the G5/G500 with their weight cartridges maxed out.

When I got the new relaunched mx518 I was pretty disappointed in how light it was. I cracked open the case and added 3oz (85g) of pinewood derby tungsten putty to it, and now it feels perfect.

Out of the box it weighed 101g. With my putty mod it now weighs 186g, and it feels perfect to me.
I don't like light mice either. People say that it is easier to aim with them, because you have a smaller momentum when you change direction. Or I don't know how they explain it, but I think a too light mouse means that it is easier to move accidentally and it can mean more errors. I believe there is a perfect weight for everyone and it is not zero. I bought bigger AA batteries for my G603 instead of AAA batteries because of the extra weight.

Zowie is a good brand, I think my brother uses a Zowie mouse currently, but I never really ask how good it is compared to Logitech. I had a Razer mouse two, but it was a Lachesis, it is both handed and had the worst ergonomy ever because of this or maybe they designed it for claw grip, idk. I use palm grip, so it did not work for me. I won a DeathAdder too, but I sold it without unboxing it. I think I'll give another try to Razer next time and buy a Razer Mamba. If that does not work, then maybe a Zowie, but as far as I remember only Razer and Logitech make cordless gaming mice.
 
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How are your cables getting bunched up? I have never had that issue with the braided cables that Logitech uses. Or the standard cables, for that matter. Sounds like a user issue.

My MX510 lasted almost 12 years. I replaced it because the the scroll wheel wore down completely, and I didn't feel like fixing or replacing it. It saw the same kind of use yours did in addition to being used for my university work.
Then I guess I was not lucky with it. I had the same phenomenon with the G510 and G7s. It takes a hot summer day around 40°C and all day playing to burn them down, though maybe they degrade gradually if there is hot, idk. I should have kept them, I could fix them now or just keep the shell and replace the electronics. It would have been a fun project. A G7 with G603 sensor. :cool:
 
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