31.5" 2560x1440 165 Hz VA G-Sync - LG 32GK850G

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  1. kalston

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    Then you have zero understanding about VRR and stutter/judder caused by the mismatch between framerate and refresh rate. Why do you keep linking blurbusters if you haven't read half of it? Do you just skim through the articles and stick to the bits that agree with your beliefs?

    And input lag is also not a big deal to you. That is entirely subjective and I can accept that some people care less than others.

    And I don't know why people are saying they don't see big gains when upgrading their GPU on BDO. Sounds like they have a seriously weak CPU or something. From 980 ti to 1080 ti my fps roughly doubled (I got exactly the 70-80% performance boost claimed by nvidia and hardware reviews), even in cities and mass pvp, at any resolution between 1080p and 4k with just an old 4790k @ 4.4ghz. If we want to talk about CPU limited then let's talk about Arma 3 or DCS or something... (more games where ULMB is a no go and VRR a godsend). And as for an extremely popular and completely GPU bound game, there's always ARK Survival Evolved lol. Drops below 30fps at 1440p with a 1080 ti.
     
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  2. RPGWiZaRD

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    What? This monitor doesn't have ULMB? I thought all Gsync enabled ones would have it. That's a bummer as even on my 240Hz display I prefer how the games feel at 144Hz + strobing vs 240Hz without it. It's like gaming on a CRT again, you'd think 240Hz would be more than enough to remove blur but once you put them next to each other it quickly becomes noticeable, the sample-and-hold issue is too much to ignore even at 240Hz. UFOtest is pretty much blur-free at 144Hz strobed while there still is a noticeable shadow at 240Hz.
     
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  3. kalston

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    Some VA panels don't apparently. This one too : http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_predator_z271.htm despite pretty good response times. Not sure about the reasons behind it.
     
  4. geok1ng

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    You keep moving goalposts. ARK is so broken and unoptimized that it is hard to find a thread actually explaining wtf is going on there. as i said before, one can always bring out bad games to the discussion. 10y ago it was crysis, then heavily modded skirym. now its ark.
     
  5. Krisium

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    It's ok to tell us that you prefer ULMB to G-Sync, and the reasons why. Such a conversion would even be relevant with this monitor as it lacks the former. It's not ok to pretend your preference is the universal truth.

    The only goal post is this nonsense: "one does not need *sync for 2560x1440. 1080ti is more than enough at this low resolution. so at 25x14 the only relevant spec is ULMB, which this monitor lacks."

    No. Not "one". But "you". You attempt to present opinion as fact and then prove it. This is spectrum level stuff here.
     
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  6. NukeDukem

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    Saying G-sync is not important at 1440p with 1080Ti is laughable. I turned off G-Sync to run a benchmark and IMMEDIATELY noticed when I tried playing Battlefront 2 afterwards that something was "OFF". Sure enough, forgot to reset G-sync.

    This guy has gone on anti-G-sync rants before, parading his ignorant opinions as fact. People who have actually used VRR know he is full of bologna.
     
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  7. Vega

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  8. RPGWiZaRD

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    Yea I think the same, I better keep waiting for an IPS version in the same format because I really enjoy strobing personally, would love to have especially a 144Hz strobing capable, wonder if IPS panels are even fast enough to handle that? TN panels handle up to around 180Hz with reasonable result.
     
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    If the information that Daniel from LG posted in Vega's topic over on overclockers is correct, then there will be 32'' 1440p 144Hz IPS next year.
    These are panels by LG.Display I suppose, but tftcentral doesn't have any infos on these from the roadmaps (only on ultrawide panels).
    AOU follows with 4k/HDR version in late 2018. (if it doesn't get delayed again)
     
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  10. RPGWiZaRD

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    That's great news, thanks for sharing, looking forward to what LG will offer in 2018 then. :) Seems like they really are trying to step up their game. I hope they one day will offer an OLED monitor as well, it's kinda the logical next step at some point.
     
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    Huh, didn't think I'd see a VA panel with those specs to compete with all the AHVA/IPS ones. Sounds promising enough, if they can minimize the black smear on black/dark grey transitions that my FG2421 suffers from. Just gotta wait for the price to come down.

    But now, you're all saying that there's no ULMB. That's odd. Note that the big selling point of the aforementioned FG2421 is that "Turbo 240" ULMB mode that works purely on the monitor side, regardless of what GPU's connected. I'd expect no less of any modern gaming monitor.

    I'm mainly looking for an upgrade since 1080p looks like a pixellated mess nowadays, what with games having seemingly ineffective AA options. (Destiny 2 SMAA = still full of jaggies, for instance.) 1440p would be a nice step up, but full-fledged 2160p would be murder on my poor GTX 980 unless I'm playing something old.
     
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    The Samsung C27HG70 does a decent job in reducing that problematic dark transition from 44ms to 34ms, while providing 1440p 144Hz. You just have to get past the problematic QC with weird patterns and smudges in grey/dark backgrounds.
     
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    Huh, I didn't know Samsung had a 1440p option, only a 1080p option. I'll have to consider this.

    No G-SYNC, but the price is accordingly much cheaper. Also no flat option since Samsung's obsessed with curved displays in one way or another, sadly. If it's not their monitors, it's their flagship smartphones. (I say this as a Note 8 owner, since even the Note 7 before it started the trend of cramming those curved edges down our throats and I have no alternative for a penabled phone.)
     
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    It's definitely worth a try rolling the QC lottery, as it's already widely available. Because even if this LG proves good, it's not going to be much of an upgrade in resolution sharpness at 31.5". In fact, it'll have a tad worse PPI than a 23.5" 1080p monitor.
     
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    Response times look okay, but the issue is we don't know how much overshoot there is with their overdrive.

    They posted a video of 60hz/144hz/165hz

    Maybe someone like Vega with a lot of experience seeing VA smearing and overdrive artifacts can see examine it?
     
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    Newegg has pushed the release date back a third time, to 12/18. At this rate we'll be lucky to actually have it by Christmas. Hopefully more reviews surface so I can just cancel my pre-order if it sucks.

    I really don't like this baiting on pre-release either, with them shipping out the "free gift" keyboards and charging people's cards for them. I know I'm not the only one this happened to. Advertising multiple BS release dates to lure in pre-orders is shady, (unless the Egg is getting BS'ed themselves by LG)... who knows. Just hope it's worth it whenever it does actually ship!
     
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    Looks pretty in-depth to me. Any display gurus have an opinion based on the review?
     
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    Their charts are underdeveloped compared to other sites and don't show the whole picture. There is something off about their WBW/GBG listings

    I've used a monitor they reviewed before and it was like the screen was melting, easily 20ms+ for certain gray shades (VA) and their grids looked nothing like that. TFT does 6x6 grid, these guys do 5x5, and probably off or something. They don't do overshoot/undershoot tests either, except for that crappy out of sync video with the squares.
     
  20. HellfireX

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    Hmm. I just received notification that my order will ship tomorrow from newegg. Might actually have it before xmas. Now to hoping this won't suck.

    Anyone else get notification if you pre-ordered?
     
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    The other video on their site shows this monitor to have a lot of motion blur, as expected. Unfortunately we will need to see it for ourselves to know for sure...
     
  22. Fuzzy_3D

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    Looks like it's in stock now, and newegg.com is the only place you can buy one. :banghead:

    Can't even find a review from any of the usual suspects. Maybe LG isn't confident in it withstanding professional scrutiny?
     
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    Cool Hell. When you get it in can you set it to 165 Hz and do this test:

    https://testufo.com/mprt

    And play around with the overdrive settings. I'm sure quite a few will be interested in what the MPRT will be on this VA panel.
     
  24. igluk

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    Here's more results
    https://uk.hardware.info/product/419578/lg-32gk850g-b/testresults

    They don't test the typically smeary transitions though.
    But you can safely put this on highest overdrive it seems. (from: off, normal, fast, faster)
    There's very little overshoot, either the overdrive is very good or it might be too weak in the end.
    Also, their unit had some issues with black uniformity in the top left corner.
     
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    Do you know if they test with a high or low refresh rate?
     
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    Mine shipped from the Egg today (12/6). Expect impressions and comparison with my 27" Acer XB270HU (IPS) by next Wednesday, thanks to "Super-Eggsaver" shipping (so much for that Premier membership...)

    Edit: they are "In Stock" as of right now.
     
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  27. nehway0912

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    Could you check the panel model by entering the service menu when it arrives? Thanks.
     
  28. igluk

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    Pretty sure all tests except those using the Leo Bodnar lag tester are done at the native refresh.

    Is the combination for how to get to the service menu even known? Otherwise the only way to find out panel is by opening up the display (and thus voiding warranty)
     
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    Will do. If someone knows how to get into the service menu I can try that also but I am not prone to open the panel to void the warranty.

    I am not super optimistic on this monitor but crossing fingers it might surprise. I signed up for 3 months of the newegg premier to help with returns/restocking. Last few monitors I have bought required a few returns to get acceptable screens. I really do not understand how its so hard to make screens with no back light bleed. A bit OT but this even applies to TVs, I went through 5 Sony 850Ds before getting a good panel, I knew the geek squad guys by the end of that ordeal.
     
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    I'll be returning another PG279Q to Microcenter... I don't understand how my MG279Q is just fine, very minimal bleed, but I can't get one a decent G-Sync 1440P IPS. Hopefully this LG turns out alright and I can have something to hold me over until the end of next year when we have DP 1.4, 4k 144hz panels.
     
  31. nehway0912

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    "Just turn off the monitor, wait for 5 seconds. Then press and hold the menu button. With it pressed, press the power button. The monitor will be on. Release menu button. Then press menu again and you will get the secret menu."
    I found this on the internet.