31.5" 2560x1440 165 Hz VA G-Sync - LG 32GK850G

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  1. Vega

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    Following for Vega's impressions!
     
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    Got my pre-order in! It will be interesting to see how this stacks up next to my 2+ year old Acer XB270HU, a monitor I absolutely love yet wish was just a bit larger for the resolution. Throw in deeper blacks and elimination of the IPS glow, and this thing could be the perfect monitor of my dreams! At least, until we get proper 144Hz/4k HDR screens with the GPU tech to max them out.
     
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    Pretty huge for that resolution. I don't really want anything larger than 27" at 1440p.
     
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    Well, most of us would probably prefer 4k120 in this size class, but those apparently aren't a priority.

    I will say that my 27" Predator looks rather quaint next to the 30" HP that it replaced...
     
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    Its the same PPI as a 24" 1080p monitor, but doesn't it look better as there are more pixels, and you can keep a 31.5" screen easily farther away?
     
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    Awesome News... WAKE UP LG Canada !!!! I was waiting for one. Can I preorder it from Canada and drive over border? Last time I tried to order from US NE it didn't like my Visa ;-(

    I'm trying to upgrade LG 32LD450 1080p (o/c to 75Hz)... IPS with 4:4:4 support. I know some of you think 1080p at that size is way to low, but I got use to it LOL... maybe I'm getting old....

    I didn't want to go into 4k, as you need a lot of juice to drive it.

    Currently I have 3570k@4.5 (planning to upgrade to 8700k later this year) with gtx1070. I had Acer xb271hu for few weeks, but I couldn't downgrade in size.

    I just hope the VA panel is decent.
     
  8. gan7114

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    You'll be getting a larger picture, but not a better picture. A better picture comes with increased PPI but at the same screen size. 31.5" 1440p will have more or less the same picture quality (PPI) as a 24" 1080p screen, just with more on-screen real estate.
     
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    Well, at least with a 31.5" display you can easily watch from beyond the recommended ~90cm retina point, while with 24" you'll be inside that easily.
     
  10. Martha Stewart

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    I really want one of these but damn it 1440p. That is gonna look straight ASS at 91PPI. Yikes
     
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    It's actually 93ppi and yes it'll be a bit soft compared to smaller panels but Windows was designed around 96ppi so things will be quite readable.
     
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    It's for that very reason that my ideal monitor size would be a 30.6" 1440p.
     
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    excuse me with the 2ppi LOL

    either way anything under 100ppi is absolutely atrocious. In the day and age of high PPI phones and laptops I don't know how you guys can stomach that low of a PPI. Just tried to run my 32" monitor at 1440p and it made games look like ass :(
     
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    Perfect PPI is different for each of us. Also whether you use scaling or not matters.
    And of course games look ass when you run at different resolution than your native.

    To me this monitor has perfect PPI. At current I own 32 inch monitor (BL3200PT) at the same resolution so I know this is the perfect PPI for me.
    Previously I have owned smaller screen with higher PPI and had trouble reading text without scaling and had other problems with scaling.

    Hoping this compares similar to BL3200PT but would have faster response times and no banding.
    Hoping contrast ratio and viewing angles remains the same since on other high refresh rate VA monitors they have been reduced.
    Recent VA monitors have clouding and backlight bleeding issues too. So hoperfully this one does not.

    Seems to me that since they have started making VA monitors faster other aspects which have been good on VA monitors are getting worse.
     
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    I have to disagree. My son is running an Asus PB278Q which is 1440p and of course higher DPI than my HP Omen 32", but the Omen is preferred by everyone that has seen both in action, so much so my son is asking if my can trade me for my 32" Benq which is my secondary monitor and is 1440p as well. Now a 30-32" at 1080p.........
     
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    This is a poor test; running non-native on an LCD almost always makes the output look like ass.

    Also, not sure what people are talking about with respect to softness- these aren't CRTs, they don't get soft. Lower resolutions can actually appear sharper because the pixels are larger. Poor scaling is the only thing that can cause softness on a still image.
     
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    32" 1440P is GROCE!

    I have been loving this custom 30" 2560x1600 @120hz Gsync display from Herculean Screens! It cost me 2 large, but it is the perfect form factor for my needs! It should tide me over until 32" 4k 144hz FALD next year :)

     
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    I bought an Omen 32 expecting AMD's Vega to be really good. As we know, that didn't happen. Lately, since I have a GTX 1070, I've been pondering whether to sell the Omen 32 and buy a G-sync monitor, except that I don't want to go lower than 32", now that I'm used to it - and it's about the perfect size for me, since I have my monitor 2 - 4 feet away from my head, depending on whether I'm leaning forward or backwards.

    This LG monitor might be the thing for me... though I might wait for details of Navi before I decide to swap monitors.


    BTW, the thread title incorrectly lists the monitor as 165 hz, instead of 144 hz.
     
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    Objective forecast for Navi based on past AMD performance: might be as fast as the 1080Ti/1180/2080 in some titles, will use noticeably more power (see Vega64 vs. 1080).

    If you want it now, get it now :/
     
  20. Vega

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    32" is the best computer monitor size IMO. 4K is a delight at 32", but still have to wait for connectivity to catch up to high refresh rates.

    This monitors "normal" refresh rate is 144 Hz, but it has a 165 Hz "overclock" mode like most gaming displays these days. Obviously everyone will use "overclock' mode.
     
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    I'll take 1440p @144hz with my 30"+ Gsync display over 4k @60hz for the time being.

    4k & HDR would make it the perfect display, but this will tide me over until GPU and display panel technology gets there.

    I'm coming off a decade old 27" 1080p 60hz display, so this step up in size, resolution & refresh is WAY overdue. (y)
     
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    Ya Fuzzy, 1440P seems to be the sweet spot these days if you want high refresh. I guess that could change with Volta next year. 4K is awesome, but single GPU can't do 144 Hz 4K justice. And we all know SLI these days is losing support/popularity.

    On another note:

    It is quite strange for LG to use a VA panel since they are an IPS panel manufacturer. But they also went out of their way to put panel type "VA" on their spec sheet, but then list no contrast ratio.

    Actually scratch that, PcMonitors.info gave up some good info:

    https://pcmonitors.info/aoc/aoc-q3279vwf-31-5-inch-va-wqhd-freesync-model/

    So that is obviously the same panel. 31.5" flat VA 1440P.

    Panda LC320HU1A panel.

    http://www.panelook.com/LC320HU1A_PANDA_31.5_CELL_overview_24400.html

    All the specs are matching up with LG's.
     
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    Damn that video LOL. I really want one as I need 30" or bigger at 165hz.....


    Curious Vega, will you just be using super sampling/NVIDIA DSR to dell with the low PPI or you just deal with it since its "fast"?
     
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    Does anyone know if the 31.5" of this LG monitor is smaller than the 32" of the HP Omen 32 - or, are they both 32" monitors with about 31.5" actual screen-size? They both have similar-sized borders, and I wonder if the full 32" refers to the screen+border size for these "borderless" monitors. If so, then the HP Omen 32 would also be a 31.5" screen-size monitor. Wondering if I should expect a slight small size from this LG 32" / 31.5" monitor.

    As in, you can spot the difference between 165 hz and 144 hz? Just wondering.
     
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    I'm more of a "native" resolution guy. Never was impressed by super-sampling.
     
  27. GNUse_the_force

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    Chiming in here, i have a 31.5" (32") 1440p VA monitor and the resolution is borderline acceptable.
    When you lean back in your chair with a controller and play some more arcade based titles it's fine, great even especially with the lack of any backlight bleed or glow ( well, lets not talk about response times ok :p ) But if you are sat upright even with the monitor pushed back a bit further than you would a 24" 1080p screen, being productive, your sensing very thin horizontal black lines between the pixels.. that is to say there isn't enough pixels for the size imo :)

    It's not terrible at all it's passable, but a few more ppi would go a long way.I tend to run with the sharpness increased a notch and with some extra AA on my fonts. For gaming at a distance on a deep desk im sure it will be fine .. But remember pushing a big screen too far away your starting to ask yourself why you got a big desktop screen in the first place when it starts to look like a 27" screen in your FOV.

    hope that helps.
     
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    I am thinking this has more to do with pixel layout than density. Maybe high vertical spacing between pixels. What monitor do you have? Samsung? Higher density would help but so would different pixel layout. I Don't have scanlines on my 32 inch 2k monitor.

    http://www.overclock.net/t/1625438/various-samsung-2017-monitor-lineup/510

    From Samsung LTM340YP04 SVA:
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    non-native resolutions are screwed up and more blury then normal.
     
  30. Martha Stewart

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    yep

    I ran over to FRYS this morning to check out a 32" 1440p monitor and NOPE. I thought I could stomach it, but you can literally see the pixels on Chome pages :\


    This would be fine for games, but as a daily driver monitor, everything else is going to look as soft as a babies ass
     
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    Good thing it's marketed as a "Gaming Monitor" then!
     
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    Games gonna look like ass too Hahhahahaahhahaa
     
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    Would they really though? I think you need to factor in viewing distance, I've gamed on my 65 inch OLED which, even though it is 4k, is on a 65 inch so the ppi is obviously very low. Do games look like ass on it? I don't think so.
     
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    93PPI requires 94cm viewing distance to be considered "retina". Not doable on a reqular 23.5" display if you want to play serious and hit something in FPS games, but with a monstrous 31.5" that shouldn't be a problem.
     
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    I used a Panasonic 32" 1080p TV as a gaming monitor back in 2009, I have nothing but fond memories of that screen. Yeah, the text and web-browsing experience could have been better, but I didn't mind. It still rocked for gaming.

    No one is buying this one for desktop real estate, office productivity, or watching Martha & Snoop's Potluck Dinner Party. Don't like the PPI? Move it back a few inches or turn up the AA. Personally I am far more concerned with pixel response times than pixel size.
     
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    Low ppi doesn't look "bad" or blurry at all, it looks perfectly fine and sharp but if you are too close (varies GREATLY from person to person and display to display) you will notice the pixel grid. And when it comes to gaming you need to factor in performance anyway, so compromises have to be made somewhere.
     
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    so this monitor is probably not a good option for productivity use, just gaming?
     
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    Maybe it depends on the type of productivity, but I think that 32" 1440p should generally be excellent for productivity: Large viewing area, high amount of content able to be on the screen. What productivity are you concerned that it would not be good for?

    It might matter what distance you are from the monitor. At what distance from the monitor could you notice pixels?
     
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    I'm willing to bet the LG uses the same Panda panel as this AOC monitor http://playwares.com/index.php?mid=dpreview&page=4&document_srl=53168127. There's definitely issues on certain pixel transitions. We'll need to see how the overdrive implementation of the LG is and how higher refresh rates affect the pixel response time. Sometimes the refresh rate makes a pretty substantial difference.

    It wouldn't surprise me if the maximum usable refresh rate is around 100-120 without substantial smearing.
     
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    That would be a crying shame if running the monitor at the advertised 165Hz OC refresh rate caused unbearable smearing. For $850, it would be unacceptable. That $300 AOC you list runs a max 60Hz, so like you said let's hope LG knows what it is doing in regards to overdrive!

    I wonder if we have any impressions available from those who have seen this monitor in action, at IFA Berlin. Apparently there were many of them on display, so LG seemed pretty confident showing it off at least. That is encouraging, now if only I could understand German...