WFH is kind of a scam anywayIt's like my company telling people they're going "net zero" and care about the climate, then force 50k employees to RTO and commute 5 days a week.
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WFH is kind of a scam anywayIt's like my company telling people they're going "net zero" and care about the climate, then force 50k employees to RTO and commute 5 days a week.
WFH is kind of a scam anyway
Yep, but then who is going to stop them?
That being said if the efficiency is at least similar to the 4090, one could argue about it, depending on what you do with the card.
^^ This.. I ran my 1080ti's in SLI until I bought my current 3080ti. Though to be honest, I should have upgraded earlier.https://www.tweaktown.com/news/1025...nvidia-5090-is-30-faster-than-4090/index.html
Confirms a 5090 is 30% faster than a 4090 in raw performance upgrade.
All other 5xxx series cards are only 15% faster than previous gen versions.
My rule of thumb on PC "upgrades" I need to see an absolute bare minimum of at least 33% ( 1/3rd ) performance jump for me to even start thinking about it, but usually I only upgrade if it's a 50% or higher jump, because then that's noticeable. $2,000.00 for 30% LOL uh no F'ing way in hell, and $999 for 15% going to a 5080 from my current 4080 not a freaking chance.
Looks like I'll wait for the RTX-6080.
I will say the 4090 over the 3090 being 60% to 70% of an upgrade is the way it should be, at least that was worth the price and a very noticeable huge uptick in performance.
A 5090 over my 4080 looks to be a 50% to 60% "upgrade" and that is potentially tempting, but I like the FE cards and that thing will be sold out in 30 seconds, and then out-of-stock for 2 years most likely.
I don’t doubt it’s great for employees but on average, productivity goes down, social skills get eroded. There are exceptions, but there’s a reason more and more employers are requiring RTO and the vast majority of those complaining are employees. They don’t want the accountability when they can sit on the couch in their PJs with a zoom meeting set as background noise.I haven't really commuted to an office since 2017. That's now around ~3500 hours of time I have not wasted in some sort of commute process. If you consider that you're awake for 16 hours a day, that adds up to over 7 months of time I've gotten back. And YOLO - every second you waste is not something you can go back and undo or make up. On top of that, I don't need a new car because I've put some 100K miles on it since then, and I don't need back surgery because I've been able to avoid doing something that would further worsen my bulging L5-S1.
Ideally just live close to work - which is fine and easy when you're a free bachelor, but that's not feasible once you've settled down with a family.
As for Nvidia, in hindsight I'd certainly have commuted for some of those stock options - but only so I'd never have to commute again!
I strive for similar. Since Im not willing to spend ~600+ on a new card guess Im fucked for a few years....
My rule of thumb on PC "upgrades" I need to see an absolute bare minimum of at least 33% ( 1/3rd ) performance jump for me to even start thinking about it, but usually I only upgrade if it's a 50% or higher jump, because then that's noticeable. $2,000.00 for 30% LOL uh no F'ing way in hell, and $999 for 15% going to a 5080 from my current 4080 not a freaking chance.
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I strive for similar. Since Im not willing to spend ~600+ on a new card guess Im fucked for a few years.
Very good suggestion... and one would hope would only come down. My problem with the AMD cards is they dont seem to like a handful of my older games very much. AMD had always slagged a little in their drivers and Im guessing they focus their efforts on support for newer titles.9070 XT? Assuming it is priced no more than 600.
I hear that on the L5-S1 (L4 and L5 for me, old sports and demo job injuries I reinjure every few years). WFH a few days a week has literally kept me from having to take sick time off (largely caused from 9-11hr days of sitting in the office). It's an old adage at this point, but I'm working for 2 hours longer when WFH. Importantly, I'm happier AND more efficient, and my reports are happier and more efficient as well which helps me get more out of them than I did when they were cracking up from being in the office 5-6 days/week. They'll take WFH away from my cold dead hands. That said, it's not for everyone, and some people abuse it (same people who slack in the office)I haven't really commuted to an office since 2017. That's now around ~3500 hours of time I have not wasted in some sort of commute process. If you consider that you're awake for 16 hours a day, that adds up to over 7 months of time I've gotten back. And YOLO - every second you waste is not something you can go back and undo or make up. On top of that, I don't need a new car because I've put some 100K miles on it since then, and I don't need back surgery because I've been able to avoid doing something that would further worsen my bulging L5-S1.
Ideally just live close to work - which is fine and easy when you're a free bachelor, but that's not feasible once you've settled down with a family.
As for Nvidia, in hindsight I'd certainly have commuted for some of those stock options - but only so I'd never have to commute again!
I wonder what used 4060/4070/4080's will go for in 6-12 months.
Decent cards do tend to hold their value, I doubt we will get another 1080ti anytime soon. Also just from watching I notice that the auctions do tend to go for more, people with that "itch" to not lose something they have their mind/hope on. Patience is key. Stuff tends to go for pretty good here, people wanting to throw fellow [H] peeps a bone and also not wanting to deal with fees and what not. I sold an RX580 for $25 shipped here a few months ago, just didnt need/want it.I’ve bought into every new generation without exception and I’ve always sold my previous card (or cards when I was doing SLI) and I’ve always been astonished at what I got paid at auction.
Typically, I’ll hold onto my previous hardware for at least 4 months before selling it.
People always say the cards will depreciate in value quickly after the release of the new generation, but anecdotally I haven’t found that to be the case.
Sure, but it's a worrying trend to hit the limit of a newly introduced power connector so soon. A connector that's still in the shadow of the earlier rev1 failures when it was only drawing 400w.Many opened and moved the side of the case, even on weaker and less wasteful cards, so...nothing strange
Asus started developing a connector on the motherboard that would avoid the cables on the GPU cards.Sure, but it's a worrying trend to hit the limit of a newly introduced power connector so soon. A connector that's still in the shadow of the earlier rev1 failures when it was only drawing 400w.
I've gotta say, the more I wait and the more I hear, the less inclined I'm becoming to get one now. I was dead set a few weeks back.
One of the major things is simply the stupidity of the thing, 600w is just fucking nuts!I only recently-ish upgraded from a decent but old 850w PSU to a quality platinum efficiency 1000w one. I could easily have gotten a beefier one, but I reasoned that I'd rather have the best power effiency, and I really wouldn't WANT a PC that NEEDS a 1200w+ PSU! If I did, that would mean drawing an actual 1000w+ and dumping that as heat into my room.
And it's gunna draw more than 600w, more like 650w utilising the PCIe slot. Of course you can underclock/lower the TDP, but then that kinda defies the point of getting the card.
Buying a 5090 means basically installing a 1000w space heater into my room. That's fine in the winter, but come summer time these cards are going to be a nightmare!![]()
Asus started developing a connector on the motherboard that would avoid the cables on the GPU cards.
Linus is already spinning the card and gently warming his hands.
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/2dYBxD_uius?si=jI6cyiXjulAIG1IF
4090 under volt to 70% no problem here in texasI think many people underestimate how much heat this 600 watt card is going to throw into their room. When summer hits they will be needing to run room air conditioners or turning their A/C down to really cold temps just so they can stay comfortable while they game. Just adds more costs to this already over priced card.
4090 under volt to 70% no problem here in texas
Maybe in spike, but 4090 in Furmark stay close to its announced wattage,And it's gunna draw more than 600w, more like 650w utilising the PCIe slot.
everyone that insists on full settings and unlocked fps will be pushing that all the time.One can hope it's not pulling 575w that often but it's a legitimate concern and definitely one factor that makes this gen unappealing to me, on paper at least.
In 2 days we will know more from the reviews and have some actual numbers.
My 4090 is almost always voltage limited before it hits its 450watt tdp.everyone that insists on full settings and unlocked fps will be pushing that all the time.
hows your 5090 run?My 4090 is almost always voltage limited before it hits its 450watt tdp.
One can hope it's not pulling 575w that often but it's a legitimate concern and definitely one factor that makes this gen unappealing to me, on paper at least.
In 2 days we will know more from the reviews and have some actual numbers.
identical to yourshows your 5090 run?
On a 4090 that is not the case unless using path tracing/RTX or VR, without much if any upscaling. Even then the card will not really stay pegged at 450w. It will hit that number only briefly.everyone that insists on full settings and unlocked fps will be pushing that all the time.
thats "full settings"....On a 4090 that is not the case unless using path tracing/RTX or VR, without much if any upscaling. Even then the card will not really stay pegged at 450w. It will hit that number only briefly.
Unlocked fps is bad anyway, 100% GPU load causes insane input lag (unlocked fps when CPU bound is another matter, but off-topic here). Of course there is Reflex but that's literally just a dynamic fps cap to avoid overloading the GPU buffer.
But if you play at 4K, 4090 is a huge leap even without RT and frame-gen. Even at 3440x1400, I thought that it was a great jump. With a 3080, I was starting to have to lower graphical settings quite a bit to stay above 60 fps. 4090 was a reliable max settings/120fps at 3440x1440 for all but the most demanding RT games.I will pass on this gen GPU unless my 3080 blows up.
Not too impressed with the way DLSS and frame generation is used to boost FPS, I can use Lossless scaling program(6.99 USD) to use frame gen on any card.
Now if I was making a living doing ML or AI, my business would invest in a GPU cluster. For CP 2077 or any ray/path traced game it is not worth it to me,
4090+4080 water cooled 70% power all day every day in my room when not playing games and i do video encoding. Again no problems. Door stays open though lol.Run two of them and you will have an idea of how hot a 5090 will make the room.