wonderfield
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Yes they do. And in [strike=1]3D[/s] 4D.Some things do not need to be highly detailed, lol
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Yes they do. And in [strike=1]3D[/s] 4D.Some things do not need to be highly detailed, lol
Yeah so we should just cater to your lame movie viewing experience. I wouldn't be surprised if you watch them on a black and white TV.
I certainly don'e have $15k invested in my home theater but what I do have makes for a really nice viewing experience and I'd like to have my content in the best quality possible.
Say what you want, but I love blu-ray.
Last century called. They want their little plastic discs back.
Exactly this. Bluray was obsolete as soon as it came out and the studios didn't and still don't seem to realize it.
They will not be obsolete as long as TVs remain at 1080p. Or did you not think of that?Exactly this. Bluray was obsolete as soon as it came out and the studios didn't and still don't seem to realize it.
Its amazing for the following:
1. I find that some people out there are so hell bent on being against digital distribution for movies, but they embrace services like Steam for gaming? Digital Distribution completely eliminates resale values.
2. The article forgot the fine point. Netflix is the bigger killer of resale values not re-releases. Although they do hurt as well.
3. I have really never met anyone that watched movies repeatedly. Sure I have a few classics that I watched more than once, but I have completely thinned out my collection. Given the choice of watching a movie that I have already seen or watching something that I might enjoy on netflix I am going to chose netflix every time.
4. The cost benefit analysis is in Netflix's favor. Why do you think so many people scooped up Netflix? You can create so many HBO Go channels, but what television companies fail to realize is that in this economy even people that can afford it are cutting back. And they first thing they are learning to live without is cable...even more so as we have other devices like the Internet (youtube/facebook etc) and we are working more hours than ever just to get by.
5. Sure you have a small niche market that wants to buy DVDs or Blurays but for how long? As the market dies a little bit each day people will stop distributing discs. Hell most artists are releasing songs on itunes before they hit the store. I have met more people who just said "you know what? fuck it I will take that quality loss to watch something I enjoy versus watching the same thing over and over"
6. Movies are a social experience. People like to think that people care about your home theater system, they don't. If you are having a movie party or watching a movie with your kids then little Jimmy is going to want to watch that new Lion King movie. He doesn't give a shit how good Aladdin sounds the 57 times you watched it already.
You've never seen a good setup, and most people aren't douchebags about it like you. Why do you care if someone wants a good TV and surround sound? Do you want us to start slamming your hobbies?
I agree with most of their points.. retail prices are too high for Blu-ray discs..
I always wait for sales unless it is a movie I truly want to collect.. and first week prices are usually a bit cheaper than they are after that.. $20 for a Blu-ray + dvd combo pack is not a horrible price, imo.
I love the quality of the video and audio too much to go digital content for everything.
Damn straight. I can never understand these folks that have got themselves into such a terrible state 'mentally' that they cannot watch a movie unless its in 1080p on a 60"+ screen with full DTS 7:1 sound etc. etc. We are not really impressed by the fact you have spent $15000 on Home Theatre, trust me. We are just trying not to hurt your feelings by going "Oh wow!" We just want to watch the flick okay!
I find most home surround setups distracting. I really only feel it works in cinemas but its a nice to have. I can watch a movie just fine in mono if I have to. I don't have to 'feel' a movie in my guts to enjoy it. Thanks goodness.
There are people out there that don't see a huge difference from chopped steak to sirloin to filet mignon. I may shake my head but I leave them to their ignorance.
My parents have a 55" 120Hz LED but they watch non-HD channels on it when there are HD version of the channels that they watch. It drives me up the wall when I am over there, but hey, they are perfectly fine watching those non-HD channels on there.
I think the same applies here: Netflix quality cannot come close to a Blu-Ray, but some people do not really care. Personally, I do, which is why I do not use Netflix because the quality is never consistant or that great, even on a close to 30Mbit connection.
2012 called. Some of us have nice home theater setups and actually want quality audio/video.
That's also what you get with digital distribution (at least with iTunes). Two clicks and you're watching a movie.
Well a quick search shows this place http://www.sfvideo.com/ will sell fully packaged mastered blu-rays for $2.29 per disk in quantities of 1000 vs 99 cents for DVD. I am sure the big players like Sony making thousands/millions of disks, the costs are much lower. So why exactly is there a $15 markup at retail?
I also have an issue with how many movies are actually worth the full HD treatment.
Sure by nature of the product you get to see any movie in HD at the theatre but do you go to watch the latest Adam Sandler (you poor bastard) or Jennifer Anniston to see the wonderful cinematography and pore definition on their faces? No not really.
So why buy the BD version for £15-£20 when you can buy the bog standard DVD copy for £3. Or better still rent it for £2 or stream it.
The Early James Bond films remastered in HD look so clean, you'd swear it was a movie shot recently to look like a 60's film.
I only get my Blu-ray from Netflix, so the price point doesn't really apply to me.
As for the other complaints, well I think it's more of the author's pet peeves than actual complaints. I don't care what the box art looks like, I don't care whether the digital copy disk exist, I don't care if ancient movies never make it to Blu-ray, and I don't care if a studio takes too long releasing a Blu-ray version of ancient movies.
There's thousands of other movies to watch, and millions of other things to do with your life than sit around waiting for a movie release. The author seems to feel a little too entitled.
I dispute even what you say, but at least you're not being a douche about your opinion. daglesj is the only person who not only doesn't care about a good setup, but finds good setups distracting (LOL... what?!) and actually thinks negatively of people for wanting to have a good setup as if his hobbies were better than theirs.
Some of my friends care about quality, and some much less so. All of them like my setup a lot. Some of them would like my setup a lot even if it weren't good enough for me to like. But I can 100% guarantee you that not a single one of them thinks negatively of me for having a good setup.
Heres my point. Tell me if they care or can tell a difference between that 600 dollar home theater in a box system to the 6,000 dollar Martin Logan system. Sure someone might say it is cool, but if they are coming over they probably care little about how good your sound system is and they really just want to watch the movie.
Heres my point. Tell me if they care or can tell a difference between that 600 dollar home theater in a box system to the 6,000 dollar Martin Logan system. Sure someone might say it is cool, but if they are coming over they probably care little about how good your sound system is and they really just want to watch the movie.
2012 called. Some of us have nice home theater setups and actually want quality audio/video.
For a while I was running all B&W speakers / sub, NAD amps, and a decent H/K receiver. I spent a lot of time dialing it in and making sure I had a bit sweet spot for listening. Everyone that watched a movie at my place was like "OMFG Holy ****" this sounds amazing." Everyone.
mkv..... nuff said
A lot of people cannot, that is true. Diminishing returns, etc. But I didn't spend a ton of money. I DIY my speakers and honestly, I'd put them up against 6000 dollar Martin Logans any day. (Not that I don't like ML! I do.) I could demonstrate why BAD systems (like Bose Acoustimass... or TV speakers) are bad and it would be easy enough, though.
Still, while a lot of my movie watching is with other people that aren't as picky as me, I'm still using my system and I'm still enjoying it. I didn't tell you all to buy $6k speakers, nor do I tell my friends to. I enjoy my setup to its fullest. My friends just plain enjoy my setup to whatever degree they enjoy it. And that's good enough for me! I bought my system for me! The fact that other people come over and we use it is just a bonus (since I like spending time with other people and all).
By the way, I'm against digital distribution more for the consumer rights issues than for the quality. But the quality is a factor, too. Some digital distribution methods have better quality than others (mainly depending on the video codec, settings and bitrate used, as well as what they used as a source for their encode of it).
Uh, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. First of all, MKV is a container, not a codec, and it does not indicate what the quality will be. Secondly, I am a veteran video encoder (I am NOT in the movie pirating scene) and I can improve almost any video with the right toolchain. Thirdly, as mentioned before, you can have all sorts of bitrates and codecs, and it's even possible to mux in the video from a Blu-ray without reencoding which would give you the exact same quality as the Blu-ray.
Not that I'm advocating piracy or anything (there are legitimate ways to put that knowledge to use), but your statement was incorrect.