10 Ways Blu-ray Is Letting Movie Lovers Down

And then the guy complains about there being too many copies of a movie available, so that drives down prices in the used market.

Is it me, or does something not add up?
 
The top is stll mising the ultimate #1...17 hours of unskippable bullshit before you can actually watch the title. If they honestly had a switch on blu-ray players that when enabled just played the movie...people would be a hell of a lot happier in their movie purchase/rental and would be more than likely to not give a shit about the rest of the top 10.
 
I only get my Blu-ray from Netflix, so the price point doesn't really apply to me.

As for the other complaints, well I think it's more of the author's pet peeves than actual complaints. I don't care what the box art looks like, I don't care whether the digital copy disk exist, I don't care if ancient movies never make it to Blu-ray, and I don't care if a studio takes too long releasing a Blu-ray version of ancient movies.

There's thousands of other movies to watch, and millions of other things to do with your life than sit around waiting for a movie release. The author seems to feel a little too entitled.
 
JimmiG said:
Last century called. They want their little plastic discs back.
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We'll get right on that now that there's no more bandwidth caps with internet providers.



Oh wait :-P
 
5. Unnecessary digital copy discs. Once you use the extra disc to transfer the digital copy, it's no longer useful. Yet you're stuck with it.
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I guess you can't throw it away.

Number 1 on the list should be the DRM system that blu-ray has which requires constant firmware updates to players for the latest encryption key. If the blu-ray players manufacture stops supporting the device with updates you won't be able to watch the latest releases.
 
I've never cared for the menu systems on Blu-Ray disks. The good 'ol simple DVD standard menu system was easier and more consistent. Some Blu-Rays have that, others have a weird pop-up, some have an overlay, etc.
 
Trepidati0n said:
The top is stll mising the ultimate #1...17 hours of unskippable bullshit before you can actually watch the title. If they honestly had a switch on blu-ray players that when enabled just played the movie...people would be a hell of a lot happier in their movie purchase/rental and would be more than likely to not give a shit about the rest of the top 10.
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And yet just like DRM, the copies on thepiratebay do not have this problem. The entertainment industry really needs to learn that piracy isn't just popular due to the cost.
 
Trepidati0n said:
The top is stll mising the ultimate #1...17 hours of unskippable bullshit before you can actually watch the title. If they honestly had a switch on blu-ray players that when enabled just played the movie...people would be a hell of a lot happier in their movie purchase/rental and would be more than likely to not give a shit about the rest of the top 10.
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+1 This is pretty annoying indeed!
 
Streaming movie on net flix looks and sounds like compressed ass and lacks things like DTS audio tracks.

The extra cost is worth the money for movies I want to watch over and over again and I rather go rent the fucking bluray disc than watch netflix ass looking video stream.


Netflix is like a game like Crysis or battlefield 3 on consoles it looks and sounds like ass and the blueray is the fuck real PC version for people that are not clueless on how ass netflix and streaming movies look.
 
siliconnerd said:
And yet just like DRM, the copies on thepiratebay do not have this problem. The entertainment industry really needs to learn that piracy isn't just popular due to the cost.
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Way to justify piracy.

Here's something else to try: pay for the movie and use DVDFab and rip a backup yourself.
 
Azhar said:
Way to justify piracy.

Here's something else to try: pay for the movie and use DVDFab and rip a backup yourself.
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I've been tempted many times to build a little home server and back up all of my movies on it. Then I remember I have something like 300 movies and try to figure out how much space that would take up and decided to just deal with the discs.
 
I totally agree on the James Bond thing... I have no interest in any Bond other than Connery and Moore, but the stupid box sets spread it out so that you have to buy Brosnan or - worse - Dalton. And not all of the movies even have BDs - I'm looking at you, You Only Live Twice.
 
Blu-Ray has been out long enough that prices really needed to have come down years ago.
 
Derangel said:
I've been tempted many times to build a little home server and back up all of my movies on it. Then I remember I have something like 300 movies and try to figure out how much space that would take up and decided to just deal with the discs.
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Do like I did and go through them all honestly and get rid of the ones you only watched once.

Amazed at how many I'd bought that fell in that category.
 
demingo said:
2012 called. Some of us have nice home theater setups and actually want quality audio/video.
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+1. No legitimate form that you can obtain for movies will give you the quality that actual physical discs will. In many cases, even DVDs look better than low-bitrate HD crap from Netflix or other available non-physical media sources. Then again, I know more people who can't even see dot crawl/rainbowing in a composite connection than can, which boggles my mind. I honestly don't see how that is even possible for someone who either doesn't need glasses or who is wearing the proper glasses.

Also, if I can't resell it, I'm not gonna buy it. I feel that all digital distribution that does not allow resale is not only douchey, but illegal under First Sale Doctrine.
 
Trepidati0n said:
The top is stll mising the ultimate #1...17 hours of unskippable bullshit before you can actually watch the title. If they honestly had a switch on blu-ray players that when enabled just played the movie...people would be a hell of a lot happier in their movie purchase/rental and would be more than likely to not give a shit about the rest of the top 10.
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I could not agree more. We actually got one disk the other week that stated that since it was a rental disk it would not have any extras and when put in went straight to the movie. we were like AWESOME! And then left wondering why cant all of them be like that



Azhar said:
I only get my Blu-ray from Netflix, so the price point doesn't really apply to me..
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Same. In fact since we got netflix years ago, we buy almost NO disks anymore.

Another couple of issues I have with blue ray is how they dont all play alike. Some when I hit pause will show a timers on the show.. some willnt. I have even come across a could of blue rays that when stopped, required me to start from the beginning all over again instead of picking back up where we left off.

now overall we do enjoy the quality of the show on our 55" LED tv, but the interaction aspect of it all leaves a LOT to be desired.
 
I must admit I have yet to really justify buying a BD player. I just can't get excited about it. I guess I've bought most of my fave classic movies two or three times already (VHS/Widescreen VHS then DVD) and I really can't be bothered to buy them again.
 
Derangel said:
I've been tempted many times to build a little home server and back up all of my movies on it. Then I remember I have something like 300 movies and try to figure out how much space that would take up and decided to just deal with the discs.
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I have about 520 movies myself on two Seagate BlackArmor NAS 220 units (4TB each). Long time in the making but very rewarding! None of them have trailers and FBI warnings except television episodes (pain in the butt to rip each and every episode sometimes).
 
ir0nw0lf said:
Blu-Ray has been out long enough that prices really needed to have come down years ago.
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The MSRP on them is a joke. Anyone actually paying retail price for blu-rays needs to learn to shop around. Amazon, Wal-Mart, Target, etc all have good discounts on blu-rays the day they release.
 
To this day, I still do not own a Blu-ray player. Nope, not even in my computers. When they started making movie previews and other crap unskippable, I vowed never to buy a dvd again. So I either see a movie in the theater (rarely), or I dvr it off satellite. The dvds I do own, I have ripped to mkv files and put on my NAS.
 
daglesj said:
Do like I did and go through them all honestly and get rid of the ones you only watched once.

Amazed at how many I'd bought that fell in that category.
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I've thought about getting rid of some of the movies I either don't like, will probably never watch again, or I can watch on Netflix. Plus getting rid of my LOTRs DVDs will give me even more of an excuse to buy the blu-ray version.
 
demingo said:
2012 called. Some of us have nice home theater setups and actually want quality audio/video.
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another +1. I got screwed when blockbuster went down :( watch much less movies now and only buy the ones I want re-watch occasionally (not too many).

BD price SHOULD be much lower but I think it's due to the fact that most people are still on DVDs and there's no market demand. That and the studios' absurdity.
 
oh yeah, and don't get me started on the previews...I frickin paid so much money for the movie and have to watch commerials??!?!?!?!
 
Its amazing for the following:

1. I find that some people out there are so hell bent on being against digital distribution for movies, but they embrace services like Steam for gaming? Digital Distribution completely eliminates resale values.

2. The article forgot the fine point. Netflix is the bigger killer of resale values not re-releases. Although they do hurt as well.

3. I have really never met anyone that watched movies repeatedly. Sure I have a few classics that I watched more than once, but I have completely thinned out my collection. Given the choice of watching a movie that I have already seen or watching something that I might enjoy on netflix I am going to chose netflix every time.

4. The cost benefit analysis is in Netflix's favor. Why do you think so many people scooped up Netflix? You can create so many HBO Go channels, but what television companies fail to realize is that in this economy even people that can afford it are cutting back. And they first thing they are learning to live without is cable...even more so as we have other devices like the Internet (youtube/facebook etc) and we are working more hours than ever just to get by.

5. Sure you have a small niche market that wants to buy DVDs or Blurays but for how long? As the market dies a little bit each day people will stop distributing discs. Hell most artists are releasing songs on itunes before they hit the store. I have met more people who just said "you know what? fuck it I will take that quality loss to watch something I enjoy versus watching the same thing over and over"

6. Movies are a social experience. People like to think that people care about your home theater system, they don't. If you are having a movie party or watching a movie with your kids then little Jimmy is going to want to watch that new Lion King movie. He doesn't give a shit how good Aladdin sounds the 57 times you watched it already.
 
roaf85 said:
1. I find that some people out there are so hell bent on being against digital distribution for movies, but they embrace services like Steam for gaming? Digital Distribution completely eliminates resale values.
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Steam gives you the same game you can buy in the store at the same level or quality. It doesn't re-encode all the art assets and sound files at a significantly lower quality like movie steaming services do.
 
M'ichal said:
another +1. I got screwed when blockbuster went down :( watch much less movies now and only buy the ones I want re-watch occasionally (not too many).

BD price SHOULD be much lower but I think it's due to the fact that most people are still on DVDs and there's no market demand. That and the studios' absurdity.
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BD disc are more expensive to produce, more expensive to ship now and have increased licensing costs which are passed on to the consumer. That and few B&M stores have any incentive to lower the price on them because they rely more on the mark ups from smaller purchases like DVDs and video games compared to big screen tvs.
 
I don't care if anyone else cares about my HT. I do, and that's enough for me. I didn't buy my gear for anyone else, even though I do watch stuff on it with friends more often than without. I've gotten compliments on how good things both looked and sounded from EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has experienced it. (Not that it's the best in the world - it is far from that - but it's pretty darn good.)
 
roaf85 said:
6. Movies are a social experience. People like to think that people care about your home theater system, they don't. If you are having a movie party or watching a movie with your kids then little Jimmy is going to want to watch that new Lion King movie. He doesn't give a shit how good Aladdin sounds the 57 times you watched it already.
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Damn straight. I can never understand these folks that have got themselves into such a terrible state 'mentally' that they cannot watch a movie unless its in 1080p on a 60"+ screen with full DTS 7:1 sound etc. etc. We are not really impressed by the fact you have spent $15000 on Home Theatre, trust me. We are just trying not to hurt your feelings by going "Oh wow!" We just want to watch the flick okay!

I find most home surround setups distracting. I really only feel it works in cinemas but its a nice to have. I can watch a movie just fine in mono if I have to. I don't have to 'feel' a movie in my guts to enjoy it. Thanks goodness.
 
It seems like the whole issue hinges on the emotional investment people are making in being entertained. From being upset over the distribution to lashing out at one another over not being able to fully leverage the money they threw away on a screen and speakers, it all demonstrates how much progress has failed to actually change the essentially sad state of humanity.
 
1. Too expensive
2. No content worth purchasing
3. Locked previews
4. Inability to "easily" watch on portable devices
5. Redbox, Netflix or Blockbuster

I have no problems purchasing movies that are worth collecting, but I'm not gonna' pay ~$25 for a BR version of Duce Bigalow 2.
 
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