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I just passed 40. Make sure shy of 6 digits in South Florida. I can buy or build basically anything I want.
The only thing that keeps a gaming PC in my office is a mouse. That's it. Everything else is just more polished overall on a console but the fact is I really dig FPS games.
Give me real mouse support on a console and I'm done with PC gaming.
I just passed 40. Make sure shy of 6 digits in South Florida. I can buy or build basically anything I want.
The only thing that keeps a gaming PC in my office is a mouse. That's it. Everything else is just more polished overall on a console but the fact is I really dig FPS games.
Give me real mouse support on a console and I'm done with PC gaming.
I think a big part of that is how much easier PC gaming has become.
Yes yes. We've heard this song and dance every generation for nearly thirty bloody years. New consoles come out and everyone cries doom and gloom for the PC industry only for the industry to get even bigger as time goes on. Let's be realistic here, last generation GPUs are perfectly fine for 99% of PC gamers. AMD's upcoming Navi, even if its only mid-range, will be perfectly fine for the vast majority of PC gamers.
Another year, another "PC is dead" article..
Wake me for the steam summer sale.
2005
https://hardforum.com/threads/pc-gaming-dying.902156/ Complete with a classic Kyle reply..
2006
https://hardforum.com/threads/is-pc-gaming-dieing.1097154/
2008
https://hardforum.com/threads/another-pc-could-die-thread.1349100/
2009
https://hardforum.com/threads/a-bit...working-to-see-if-pc-gamers-is-dying.1404823/ With hard hitting "I stood in EB Games" investigation!!
https://hardforum.com/threads/is-pc-gamers-dying.1404587/
2012
https://hardforum.com/threads/the-pc-looks-like-its-dying.1709826/ Front page this time!
2013
https://hardforum.com/threads/do-you-agree-that-the-home-pc-will-soon-die.1743486/
2014
https://hardforum.com/threads/is-pc-gaming-dying.1814567/
2017
https://hardforum.com/threads/is-the-pc-market-dying.1923493/
I'm sure I could get a few more if I did more than 1 search, on more than 1 website....
Nearly the same experience on a huge bigscreen and not a PC monitor at a deskEveryone is going to go console except the hard core......why? Nearly the same experience on a huge bigscreen and not a PC monitor at a desk. Surround sound that just works without thinking. Want a game, buy it digitally and it auto downloads...no Steam or Epic or GOG, how do I use this code.
No driver issues, ever. No compatibility issues, ever.
This means something to non-nerds......I'm fine wearing both hats, my son and daughter both roll on PC....so I'm doing my part to keep the flame alive, but most of their friends are on the couch with the gamepad.
Nearly the same experience on a huge bigscreen and not a PC monitor at a desk
I must be imagining playing PC games on my 55" OLED in my recliner, then.
Surround sound that just works without thinking
Last I checked, you still have to manually pick your speaker setup on console, unless you're fine with stereo PCM.
Want a game, buy it digitally and it auto downloads...no Steam or Epic or GOG, how do I use this code.
Same on PC, except on PC they have the courtesy to ask first. You still have to open a storefront to purchase games on console, and they are a lot slower and laggier than on PC on every console. Have you tried using the PSN store recently? It literally crashes every 5-8 minutes for seemingly no reason.
No driver issues, ever.
But a bad firmware update can literally brick your console, which has happened several times in the past on Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo consoles.
No compatibility issues, ever.
Except when games can't even launch the first day. And sometimes when they do they can frequently crash and possibly damage storage drives. If you're lucky enough to avoid that you get games that run at 12 FPS.
I got around to reading the summary. Seems like they're basing this research solely on the number of products sold. I think this is disingenuous because much like the TV market, people are keeping their computers for a longer period of time. If you're current hardware still allows you to play the games you want to play, what is the point in upgrading? Not everyone goes that [H]. A common theme I see around here is people simply upgrading their video card every 2 generations while running the same CPU. You further your reading to normies on Steam and you see most of the verbal people there are running whole PCs with 8-10 year old hardware. And what about the people buying used hardware? Is that figured into their research?
as consoles get more and more powerful I can definitely see more players shifting to consoles...with the next gen consoles supporting ray-tracing etc it looks like a decent setup...PC will always be more powerful but you also need developers willing to make PC a priority...unfortunately that isn't happening
Guys this has nothing to do with financial forecasting.
When you have a low budget gaming PC the option is clear.
You can not spend $500 on a PC with the performance of 2160p at 60fps in 2020.
Many will do the console thing that it is not likely to hit the [H] demographic is pretty trivial.
Consoles will fill that gap easily when you have to be "rich" to get a gpu these days what other option is there (2020).
It is bound to cause more then a slight ripple effect...
The VR ecosystem on PS4 is actually quite good. Seems like the games being released for it have at least as much variety as on PC. I believe I also read in the PS5 reveal that the hardware will be more integrated (i.e. no external box needed, etc.). In addition to the more powerful hardware I think that VR certainly has a future on the PlayStation console. I've certainly enjoyed all the games I've played with it so far.What do the VR guys think about this cause I don't see a VR capable console coming any time soon do you?
Unless of course. I've been asleep and someone snuck one by me.
I agree. That has been a falacious argument in my opinion as it's ignoring every other differences in the platform. PC is my preferred gaming platform because of the large ecosystem and supportive community, along with the huge library of games I will continue to have access to now and in the future. Having the optimal experience due to the stronger hardware available is just a small part of that.Sorry, I'm throwing out the card. Ask anyone here, back in the day a CPU was just as expensive and people were still spending big bucks on gaming rigs. Over the decades CPUs have gotten a little cheaper, RAM and Hard Drives too, much cheaper. Video cards are sucking up the difference that's all. A Gaming rig for awhile was cheaper, but all things change and the pendulum will do what the pendulum does, swings one way, and back the other.
The difference between consoles and PCs has never been about differences in hardware. The analysts don't get this, even some gamers don't get this. It's about the difference in the gaming experience.
I'm not a PC Gamer because of the PC. I'm a PC Gamer because I can't stand pressing the A+B Key while holding X exactly within a .5 second window ........
Sorry, I'm throwing out the card. Ask anyone here, back in the day a CPU was just as expensive and people were still spending big bucks on gaming rigs. Over the decades CPUs have gotten a little cheaper, RAM and Hard Drives too, much cheaper. Video cards are sucking up the difference that's all. A Gaming rig for awhile was cheaper, but all things change and the pendulum will do what the pendulum does, swings one way, and back the other.
The difference between consoles and PCs has never been about differences in hardware. The analysts don't get this, even some gamers don't get this. It's about the difference in the gaming experience.
I'm not a PC Gamer because of the PC. I'm a PC Gamer because I can't stand pressing the A+B Key while holding X exactly within a .5 second window ........
Not to burst your bubble, but Epic and Steam are doing this, too. But to be fair, a lot of these games can be purchased elsewhere on PC.Ironically threads like this one: https://hardforum.com/threads/sony-would-someone-please-think-of-the-children.1980583/
posted on Hardforum are a perfect reason why I won't ever consider a console gaming machine. Sorry, I'm not interested in letting some third party dictate what type of content I'm allowed to have. If it ever comes down to that, I'll just stop participating in the market entirely.
There is nothing but for first person shooters which is clearly the only genre which you would want to experience on the PC with mouse and keyboard. Not that you can't do it with the controller but it is rather weird.
Another 3 years and 20M console gamers will switch to PC! hah!
I'm not sure what he's smoking but I've seen a renaissance of gaming desktops through my shop. People like gaming PCs. And streaming. And esports.
Take Rocket League players for example. They don't switch to console, they all let their friends know when they finally upgrade to a gaming PC to play on and get OFF of console.
I think they got it completely wrong.
Streaming services will be king within the next 5 years IMHO.
The ease of which anyone will be able to open an app on their smart TV, and for a monthly fee access games will make it a very attractive platform.
I don't think PC gaming will be hit too hard though. If you are used to high framerate gaming on a PC with a mouse and keyboard, there is no way one of these services will feel responsive enough. Heck, even Steam's in-house streaming feels too laggy, and that doesn't even go out over the external network.
No, the streaming services will appeal to casual console gamers. Those used to gaming with a controller on a TV at low console framerates will not notice the difference as easily as someone on a PC with a mouse and keyboard.
I feel like a large majority of console gamers will simply stop buying consoles due tot he up front expense, and instead just buy a bluetooth controller and pair it with their TV and use streaming services.
This will leave the console market severely diminished. Remember, one of the large reasons consoles are so popular is because all of your friends are on the system, and if you want to play with them, you have to be on the system too. This will in turn split the remaining console game base with those who care about a higher end game experience going to PC, and those who don't migrating to streaming as well.
10 years from now I doubt standalone consoles will be thing at all anymore.