Haven't some of the 2nd gen units also suffered similar problems? Seems I remember some members here having their replacements go bad too.According to the Enermax USA rep in this very thread, all first gen units are affected.
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Haven't some of the 2nd gen units also suffered similar problems? Seems I remember some members here having their replacements go bad too.According to the Enermax USA rep in this very thread, all first gen units are affected.
Haven't some of the 2nd gen units also suffered similar problems? Seems I remember some members here having their replacements go bad too.
It's too bad they can't get their shit together. But it's a common problem with CLCs all being pretty much junk. There are a few AIOs that are much better like Swiftech H series, Alphacool Eisbaer, be quiet! Silent Loop (made by Alphacool), but they are still only marginally as good as a entry level custom loop .. but still not as good as custom loop components picked by a buyer with basic knowledge about which custom loop component makes are good and which are not.Yes that's right. My fairly new stock liqtech 2 from December Amazon failed. I'm done with this this shit. Going custom loop.
My Corsair H50 is going on 6-7 years now with 2500K and it still works.It's too bad they can't get their shit together. But it's a common problem with CLCs all being pretty much junk. There are a few AIOs that are much better like Swiftech H series, Alphacool Eisbaer, be quiet! Silent Loop (made by Alphacool), but they are still only marginally as good as a entry level custom loop .. but still not as good as custom loop components picked by a buyer with basic knowledge about which custom loop component makes are good and which are not.
Yeah, the H50 is one that seems to have a much longer life than most others. There is also a direct correlation between life and how much heat the CLC has to dissipate .. the more heat / higher the temps are the shorter the CLC life with many users pushing high overclocks meaning making lots of heat only getting 1-2 year life expectancy.My Corsair H50 is going on 6-7 years now with 2500K and it still works.
4.3ghz 24/7 since day oneYeah, the H50 is one that seems to have a much longer life than most others. There is also a direct correlation between life and how much heat the CLC has to dissipate .. the more heat / higher the temps are the shorter the CLC life with many users pushing high overclocks meaning making lots of heat only getting 1-2 year life expectancy.
My Corsair H50 is going on 6-7 years now with 2500K and it still works.
I have the Enermax 360 on the 1950x. It cools pretty well, I'm just not so keen on waiting for the failure.It's too bad they can't get their shit together. But it's a common problem with CLCs all being pretty much junk. There are a few AIOs that are much better like Swiftech H series, Alphacool Eisbaer, be quiet! Silent Loop (made by Alphacool), but they are still only marginally as good as a entry level custom loop .. but still not as good as custom loop components picked by a buyer with basic knowledge about which custom loop component makes are good and which are not.
What are yoru typical CPU temps?4.3ghz 24/7 since day one
What are your temps?My H70 has been cooling my 2600K @ 4.4GHz-4.8GHz since 2011 with no issues. Same for my H60Gen1 on my PII 975 BE @ 4.0GHz, which is at 100% CPU usage 80% of the time.
Guess we are outside the norm???? Gotta bunch in the field as well and never seen a failure...yet.
Yeah. I know what you mean. I'm running a Silent Loop 280mm and have been for almost 2 years now. But I did service it with a flush and coolant replacement at about a year and am about to do it again. Seems most failures with CLCs are the result of low coolant or junk in pump. Same with these Enermax failures.I have the Enermax 360 on the 1950x. It cools pretty well, I'm just not so keen on waiting for the failure.
What are your temps?
Yeah, not the norm, but if all failed nobody would be buying them anymore.
I actually think I'm going to flush and replace mine with some decent coolant.What are yoru typical CPU temps?
What are your temps?
Yeah, not the norm, but if all failed nobody would be buying them anymore.
Yeah. I know what you mean. I'm running a Silent Loop 280mm and have been for almost 2 years now. But I did service it with a flush and coolant replacement at about a year and am about to do it again. Seems most failures with CLCs are the result of low coolant or junk in pump. Same with these Enermax failures.
On this note: anyone have a suggestion for coolant?I actually think I'm going to flush and replace mine with some decent coolant.
On this note: anyone have a suggestion for coolant?
So kinda warm but not extreme 60s-75c max, 90s are getting hot, and just nice and warm at 55c.On the 2600K @ 4.4-4.5, 72F ambient I see 24c idle (heat soaked) and low to mid 60's in games. P95 (26.6) is around 75c for my hottest core.
4.8GHz I see 33c idle and around low to mid 70's in games. P95 is around low 90's. All in a HAF-932.
On the PII 975 @ 4.0GHz, idle is 34c and 55c encoding with Handbrake for at least 10-12hrs a day. All in a Black Hawk Ultra.
So kinda warm but not extreme 60s-75c max, 90s are getting hot, and just nice and warm at 55c.
Is it safe to assume radiator is mounted in top of case above CPU waterblock/pump? That means as coolant levels go down all the air stays in radiator so less chance of damaging pump. Probably the most common reason for pumps failing is low coolant level with air getting into pump, pump overheating and failing.
So both radiators have their hoses into top, side or bottom of radiator?Both rads are mounted at the rear exhaust and are configured for intake. Both rads are level with the pump head.
So both radiators have their hoses into top, side or bottom of radiator?
So air in system is trapped at top of radiator and does not create bubbles that could get into pump and cause problems. At least that's the theory.Bottom.
So air in system is trapped at top of radiator and does not create bubbles that could get into pump and cause problems. At least that's the theory.
I have the Enermax 360 on the 1950x. It cools pretty well, I'm just not so keen on waiting for the failure.
I'm furious!
I've got a replacement LiqTech TR4 II - and it's failing again!!
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This is what happens after 2min of P95. Fans on 100%, case is defo ventilated sufficiently.
What the hell, Enermax?
The LiqTech TR4 claims to support a TDP of 500W+, so I expect the CPU to NOT throttle to 140W...Is p95 FFT supposed to not reach thermal throttling on TR? I think a sure sign of failure would be if your idling temps are 10C or more above ambient.
Our results...Just wanted to post another follow-up. I've installed a Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 air-cooler and it works great. For 60% the cost I am getting 59C @ 3.9GHz full load. Also in the long run it will be nice not to worry about maintenance or possible failure. I would suggest for anyone else wanting to streamline their build with a sense of long term dependability to go with this low cost option.
The caveats are make sure your case is large enough, this particular model is very big and I managed to fit it in with less then 1 mm clearance on the side panel. Their is also the strong possibility it will block some of your ram slots. Not and issue in my immediate case as I am only using 4 slots, but if you need all 8 make sure you do the research.
You know what, I'm still within a couple weeks of the return period on the Noctua. Just ordered the silver arrow and going to give it a try.Noctua a12x15 x3 on silver arrow might be the ultimate solution
The specs for the noctua fan that ships with their coolers is a bit different than the retail fans, iirc. I'd have to go check again.You know what, I'm still within a couple weeks of the return period on the Noctua. Just ordered the silver arrow and going to give it a try.
Thinking about fans, I imagine the only real consideration in terms of performance is how much air gets moved (CFM). In terms of stacking fans I've actually seen tests where there is only a marginal performance increase when adding identical fans. When I think about it, if a fan is running say 1500rpm and moving 83 CFM, adding another fan running the same speed won't add any speed to the air, it will only add static pressure. When I think of 2 cars driving the same speed, they don't move any faster, but if they hit a wall there will be more force.
Essentially the performance increase in stacking fans is that the air will maintain speed when meeting resistance (cooler fins) but will not make the air go any faster than the rated CFM.
How about this for comparison:
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-A14-iPPC-3000-PWM-Cooling/dp/B00KFCRF1A
https://noctua.at/en/nf-a14-industrialppc-3000-pwm
3000rpm, 159 CFM, 41.3db
the specs on the Thermalright fan that ships with the Silver Arrow:
http://www.thermalright.de/en/fans/13/ty-143
2500rpm, 130 CFM, 45db
I'm not a quiet pc nut, so I'm actually not too concerned about getting the quietest fan. Though it seems a lot of Noctua's claim to quiet fans is just to cripple the speed/CFM by adding their LNA wire which I think just reduces the voltage or something going to the fan. In that case I feel like you can just profile you fans manually by adjusting the fan curve. I'd rather get the most performance possible and if it's too loud with minimal performance gains, I'll dial the fan curve down.
Greatly appreciated.If I remember correctly (95% sure), bottom one. Will check it later.
I have but one upvote to give. Thanks!I was right, top is outlet, bottom inlet. BTW hose I.D. is 1/4, O.D. 1/2.