Official Acer [XB270HU] 27" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync IPS ULMB Monitor Thread

I decided to throw my hat in the ring for awful photos. I learned that taking photos of a monitor is really fucking hard. I think they would look better if I had a tripod(or could be bothered to set up some kind of stand) and used ISO100 and a long(1-4 second) exposure, but they're a pretty decent representation. Taken with a Panasonic DMC-GF1. I'm pretty happy with the level of ips glow, especially since I never use my monitors in absolute darkness -- personally I think that due to the high minimum black level, all LCDs look absolutely terrible in darkness and I much prefer using them with a low level of lighting. My Samsung PN60F8500 is the only display I own that I enjoy in complete darkness.

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Sancus said:
I decided to throw my hat in the ring for awful photos. I learned that taking photos of a monitor is really fucking hard. I think they would look better if I had a tripod(or could be bothered to set up some kind of stand) and used ISO100 and a long(1-4 second) exposure, but they're a pretty decent representation. Taken with a Panasonic DMC-GF1. I'm pretty happy with the level of ips glow, especially since I never use my monitors in absolute darkness -- personally I think that due to the high minimum black level, all LCDs look absolutely terrible in darkness and I much prefer using them with a low level of lighting. My Samsung PN60F8500 is the only display I own that I enjoy in complete darkness.
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Your monitor looks great to me!
 
Sancus said:
I decided to throw my hat in the ring for awful photos. I learned that taking photos of a monitor is really fucking hard. I think they would look better if I had a tripod(or could be bothered to set up some kind of stand) and used ISO100 and a long(1-4 second) exposure, but they're a pretty decent representation. Taken with a Panasonic DMC-GF1. I'm pretty happy with the level of ips glow, especially since I never use my monitors in absolute darkness -- personally I think that due to the high minimum black level, all LCDs look absolutely terrible in darkness and I much prefer using them with a low level of lighting. My Samsung PN60F8500 is the only display I own that I enjoy in complete darkness.

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your monitor looks great, my glow is much more severe in the corner. Thanks for sharing your camera settings, most people just told me the picture was shit even after I asked how to take a better one. I'll use your camera settings to try and get a more realistic photo, but just looking at yours I can tell you mines probably about triple the amount of glow in the bottom right corner
 
Is there a 10% off Acer promo code floating around? I noticed some getting them off Acer.com for $750 shipped..

Acer looks like they have them in stock, but with tax+shipping its $900:mad:
 
Martha Stewart said:
Is there a 10% off Acer promo code floating around? I noticed some getting them off Acer.com for $750 shipped..

Acer looks like they have them in stock, but with tax+shipping its $900:mad:
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I don't think they have them in stock, if you read the page at the top it says this:

Due to popular demand and limited quantity, the XB270HU BPRZ WQHD Monitor with NVIDIA G-SYNC is currently out of stock. We are expecting to receive new inventory by the end of April. You will be able to place orders now. All backorders will be shipped as soon as inventory is received.

But I could be wrong.
 
Martha Stewart said:
There in stock now, but Ill wait for ShopBLT to save $150

Can't find any promo codes :\
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Has anyone ordered from the acre site and got a tracking number? I see the in stock, but it conflicts with the giant notice on the page. They've also shown in stock all week, I highly doubt they would not run out.
 
I wish I could simply get a Gsync version of my VP2770. I can live with 60hz, its the input lag that kills me. But just -wow- at these pictures; My VP2770 [27 inch PLS monitor] has none of this. Glow is only slightly detectable at 100% brightness while viewing the screen off angle. That orange glow at the bottom right of these panels is nuts. I remember another monitor I tried before settling on my current panel [VP2770], the Asus MX279H, had this glow bad. Huge amounts of blue in the left corner, and red in the right. Returned it almost immediately. I mean, not even my Qnix had this issue, and that was a cheap korean monitor. The only reason I got rid of the Qnix was because the PWM was killing my eyes (I was actually getting headaches and pain from looking at it).
 
How are you guys checking for glow? just loading up a full black screen and have the room dark?

Mine will turn up today and want to know the best way to check.
 
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Any idea when these might start showing up at Frys and Microcenter? I want to be able to return it without any shipping or vendor hassles if I get a bad one with lots of dead pixels or excessive bleed. Tons of Asus Swifts and the Acer 1080p gsync available local, but I don't want those.
 
Man, I am finally about ready to buy all the parts for my first build in 5 years, but now I am holding until I can find this monitor to buy!
The problem is it isn't even listed at any retailers here in Japan....
Afraid I may have a long wait..

Decisions Decisions
 
bAMtan2 said:
the pictures are not how it looks in real life
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Unfortunately it's not really possible to take a picture that looks right, because the way a picture looks is so dependent on the viewer's hardware, settings, and room lighting. In low room lighting(say, 2-3 normal 60W-equivalent lamps in a living room) with your monitor brightness set high, I think my photos are pretty representative of how my monitor looks when viewed from the angle I took the photos from. Of course, if your monitor/room/etc significantly differs from mine, they probably look different.

Personally though I do not think that the glow on these monitors is a big problem, I'm totally happy with my panel and so are many others. What the actual rate is for bad panels vs 'good' ones though, who knows. A 'high' RMA rate for most retailers is 10%, so it might be that low, or it could be higher. We just have no way to know.
 
Why is the driver a text file?

http://www.acer.com.au/ac/en/AU/content/drivers

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Got mine just earlier, backlight bleed isn't too bad, nothing i would return monitor for, though i have what appears to be a slight smudge smack bang in the middle of the screen, hard to see but its right in the middle. Also have what is either a hair or a line of dead pixels on the bottom left of monitor, i guess i have to go through the whole RMA thing, which is gunna suck cause no one here in Australia has any stock now and i hear 8 weeks till they do.
 
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how is it possible to have so many monitors with dust inside ? someone fucked up big time on the first batch..
 
Kaori said:
how is it possible to have so many monitors with dust inside ? someone fucked up big time on the first batch..
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Yeah for $800, someone at Acer should be screening the panels from AUO.
 
It really is a bummer to hear so many people having quality issues on what should otherwise be an amazing monitor. I'll say though, having really wanted this monitor but being afraid of a panel lottery, I'm pleased with my decision to drop $600 on a perfect, used Swift instead. ~$250 saved (after tax) and knowing I was getting a good panel was well worth it.
 
This should be sold as a 100Hz monitor with capability to run up to 144Hz with degraded quality. ULMB only works up to 100Hz on this, which really is a dealbreaker for a lot of people.
 
rabidz7 said:
This should be sold as a 100Hz monitor with capability to run up to 144Hz with degraded quality. ULMB only works up to 100Hz on this, which really is a dealbreaker for a lot of people.
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G-Sync is it's normal mode, hence 144 Hz. ULMB is just a bonus mode, like 3D is on some monitors.
 
Vega said:
G-Sync is it's normal mode, hence 144 Hz. ULMB is just a bonus mode, like 3D is on some monitors.
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It should be the opposite. ULMB should be what everyone uses. Monitors shouldn't even come with G-Sync unless they can't support ULMB due to poor response times.
 
Both ULMB and BenQ's motion blur reduction look like crap. The whole screen has some kind of bug screen effect in addition to reduced contrast. There is already so little blur that it's not worth having on.
 
rabidz7 said:
It should be the opposite. ULMB should be what everyone uses. Monitors shouldn't even come with G-Sync unless they can't support ULMB due to poor response times.
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I completely disagree.

I far prefer keeping my monitor at 144hz with G-Sync on versus 120hz with G-Sync off and ULMB on. For desktop use, ULMB is too dark. It's fine in game, but I don't want to have to turn it on and off every time I launch a game.

I'll admit that BF4 at 120fps with ULMB on looks very smooth, but then I see tearing at that ruins it. Running with G-Sync at 144hz is still incredibly smooth, and no tearing is far more important to me. And for anything running around 60fps, G-Sync on feels so much better. As a set-and-forget setting, it's really quite incredible.
 
rabidz7 said:
It should be the opposite. ULMB should be what everyone uses. Monitors shouldn't even come with G-Sync unless they can't support ULMB due to poor response times.
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Naw, ULMB has a lot of negatives. Dim's the screen considerably and you need to turn on v-sync to avoid tearing which spikes input lag. Less contrast and black depth. Plus you need to keep Fps above Hz at all times to avoid stuttering.

You avoid all that with a gsync. The only screen that doesn't have a lot of those negatives is the Eizo Fg2421.
 
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Was thinking of making the making the jump to one these monitors. For people that have gone from a larger 30" (ZR30W) how was the experience? The G-Sync + 144 Hz sure sounds nice but afraid I might miss the larger display.
 
phorkz said:
How are you guys checking for glow? just loading up a full black screen and have the room dark?

Mine will turn up today and want to know the best way to check.
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were you able to check? on mine you dont really need anything to check anything as soon as I boot I can see orangee covering about 20% of the bottom right corner. It's very noticeable. on the black boot screens.


I also use the dead pixel test http://jasonfarrell.com/misc/deadpixeltest.php?p=1 and just F11 for fullscreen to see it as well



I processed the return on mine. I really wanted to keep it because its so awesome in every other way, but the glow is really bad and is warping colors on that side of the screen
 
I've mainly been using gsync since I can't push over 100fps in most games with a single 780 for now. However in non demanding titles like CS:GO where I can easily do that, I found gsync to be of little to no benefit since once you go well past the monitors refresh rate limit then gsync acts like traditional vsync so I instead switch over to ULMB + vsync and that's been working great as well. I think the reason why most people don't prefer to even use ULMB is simply because they are not using it under the most optimal conditions. As Vega pointed out, you need to use vsync to avoid the tearing and at the same time you need to have frame rates over 100 in order to avoid the stutter. Plus you'll have to compensate for the lowered brightness.
 
MistaSparkul said:
I've mainly been using gsync since I can't push over 100fps in most games with a single 780 for now. However in non demanding titles like CS:GO where I can easily do that, I found gsync to be of little to no benefit since once you go well past the monitors refresh rate limit then gsync acts like traditional vsync so I instead switch over to ULMB + vsync and that's been working great as well. I think the reason why most people don't prefer to even use ULMB is simply because they are not using it under the most optimal conditions. As Vega pointed out, you need to use vsync to avoid the tearing and at the same time you need to have frame rates over 100 in order to avoid the stutter. Plus you'll have to compensate for the lowered brightness.
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I don't use ULMB because without VSYNC the tearing bothers me and VSYNC adds too much input lag. I always cap games in-engine to 135 fps when I use GSYNC to avoid the VSYNC capping input lag

ULMB looks great with VSYNC, but the majority of my gaming is competitive and the input lag is more detrimental than the clarity advantage ULMB gives. The same goes for the stutters/tearing without VSYNC.

I can understand someone preferring to play competitive games using ULMB without VSYNC, but if you aren't bothered by the added input lag from VSYNC there is probably something wrong with your settings or equipment.
 
sharknice said:
I don't use ULMB because without VSYNC the tearing bothers me and VSYNC adds too much input lag. I always cap games in-engine to 135 fps when I use GSYNC to avoid the VSYNC capping input lag

ULMB looks great with VSYNC, but the majority of my gaming is competitive and the input lag is more detrimental than the clarity advantage ULMB gives. The same goes for the stutters/tearing without VSYNC.

I can understand someone preferring to play competitive games using ULMB without VSYNC, but if you aren't bothered by the added input lag from VSYNC there is probably something wrong with your settings or equipment.
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I don't use triple buffering. Not THAT thing makes gaming a lot worst.
 
Jasheon said:
Estimated delivery date:
Monday, May 25, 2015 -
Monday, June 8, 2015

For me =(
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mine doesn't even have an estimated delivery date. I ordered it in April 7th.
This is like ordering Amazon Echo where people have to wait 2 - 5 months.
 
Hi, dos anybody know how to access the factory menu on the Acer XB270hu.
The menu is mentioned in the TFTcentral review.
Thanks!
 
MistaSparkul said:
I've mainly been using gsync since I can't push over 100fps in most games with a single 780 for now. However in non demanding titles like CS:GO where I can easily do that, I found gsync to be of little to no benefit since once you go well past the monitors refresh rate limit then gsync acts like traditional vsync so I instead switch over to ULMB + vsync and that's been working great as well. I think the reason why most people don't prefer to even use ULMB is simply because they are not using it under the most optimal conditions. As Vega pointed out, you need to use vsync to avoid the tearing and at the same time you need to have frame rates over 100 in order to avoid the stutter. Plus you'll have to compensate for the lowered brightness.
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http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview/

G-sync is very useful when you have a mode/most common playing frame rate of 100 or more because frame rates are a roller coaster graph, not a straight line. In fact, if you are using g-sync at lower fps-hz you are basically running a low hz monitor during those game sessions. That means greatly increased blur and low motion definition and path articulation.
120hz-fps = 50% blur reduction, 144hz-fps = 60% blur reduction, and motion definition+articulation increases 5:3 at 100fps-hz vs 60fpshz, double at 120fps-hz, and up to 2.4:1 in the high 130's -> 144fps-hz.

I aim for 100fps as the common playing frame rate. The average frame rate can be listed higher because of some higher frame rates bringing the average up during a particular game's benchmark (e.g. 170fps+ periods) but that isn't always the same as your regular frame rate running around in the game (mode/most common frame rate(s)). Depending on the game, with a common playing frame rate of 100+ you will go higher into the 120's and 130's in easier to render areas, and maybe down to 70-90 at very demanding parts of a game. With g-sync you will do that smoothly (no tearing/judder, and no v-sync tradeoffs).
 
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rabidz7 said:
It should be the opposite. ULMB should be what everyone uses. Monitors shouldn't even come with G-Sync unless they can't support ULMB due to poor response times.
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ULMB is AMAZING BALLS on my triple Acer 144s :) and my water fed SLI Titan Xs and OCd 5960x make sure FPS stay nice and tight at 100!

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Vega said:
Naw, ULMB has a lot of negatives. Dim's the screen considerably less contrast and black depth..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sdVx5gQz6w
 
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