Windows 8.1 update

DPI said:
Windows 8.2 will fix all these upgrade problems.
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If anything 8.2 will be where they mandate that SecureBoot must be enabled, thereby completing their takeover of the PC platform, making it an Apple-like walled garden that's under their control, not yours.

Linux gaming can't come soon enough.
 
cyclone3d said:
IRQ not equal error means your system is not stable.

Usually caused by CPU or RAM.
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Incorrect.

The issue was resolved by removing the ASUS wireless card from my PC and then hooking up to wired ethernet to do the install. I haven't put the card back in yet, but will soon.
 
eloj said:
If anything 8.2 will be where they mandate that SecureBoot must be enabled, thereby completing their takeover of the PC platform, making it an Apple-like walled garden that's under their control, not yours.

Linux gaming can't come soon enough.
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Boy, when you don't know what you're talking about, you really go all in.
 
MrFace said:
Incorrect.

The issue was resolved by removing the ASUS wireless card from my PC and then hooking up to wired ethernet to do the install. I haven't put the card back in yet, but will soon.
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Incorrect. The card was in the system and potentially the root cause of system instability. Do you have an O/C on the FSB?
 
ob1 said:
Incorrect. The card was in the system and potentially the root cause of system instability. Do you have an O/C on the FSB?
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No, you are also incorrect. The card is an issue and there's plenty of documentation to prove my point. Please stop being the typical computer nerd and thinking you know everything before doing research to back up your claims. Claiming the irq message indicating system stability issues ONLY is quite indicative your inexperienced level of understanding issues like this.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=asus+PCE-n53+8.1

Nothing I can do be it installing different drivers will work. I switched back to Windows 8 and it works perfectly fine.

Thanks for reminding me why I've stopped posting here and have a great day.
 
lol I was trying to be funny, sorry I hurt your feelings. Although if your system was unstable, and the card was in your system, and you know the card was causing the issue, I think the real issue here is semantics.
 
MrFace said:
No, you are also incorrect. The card is an issue and there's plenty of documentation to prove my point. Please stop being the typical computer nerd and thinking you know everything before doing research to back up your claims. Claiming the irq message indicating system stability issues ONLY is quite indicative your inexperienced level of understanding issues like this.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=asus+PCE-n53+8.1

Nothing I can do be it installing different drivers will work. I switched back to Windows 8 and it works perfectly fine.

Thanks for reminding me why I've stopped posting here and have a great day.
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Why, because you do not like hearing things that do not conform to your view or do not agree with your assessment? Oh well, have fun on whatever forum you are going to go too, bye. :D
 
Moral of the story is simple - NEVER upgrade Windows. Its always better to do a clean install. People on [H] are tech-savvy enough to backup their data/settings.

I keep all my data in a separate partition, and try to use as many portable programs as possible (browser, media player, utils). Since I use many open source products, this is easy to do. Reinstalling the OS is actually not that hard and often faster than an upgrade.

Also, upgrading leaves behind a lot of cruft (windows.old installation, extra junk in WinSxs, temp files, registry, all sorts of places really).
 
MrCrispy said:
Also, upgrading leaves behind a lot of cruft (windows.old installation, extra junk in WinSxs, temp files, registry, all sorts of places really).
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The "cruft" is the previous operating system. Windows now moves the old install to a different folder, drops a new OS install in the Windows folder, and imports everything to give the appearance of an in place upgrade.

Disk Cleanup will now wipe that old install and most of the leftover files.
 
Sadly, I've had nothing but problems with 8.1.

1. "Secureboot isn't configured correctly" watermark. No Microsoft, having Secureboot (purposely) disabled is not the same as "not configured correctly".
2. Intel HD 4600 no longer works - After a lot of troubleshooting, it seems to be a conflict with using AMD GPU drivers simultaneously (I run my primary monitor on my 7950, secondary on the 4600). If I completely uninstall the AMD drivers, my second monitor instantly comes to life. This combination worked just fine in Windows 8.0 - I'm sure Intel will fix it in a driver update soon, but it's still annoying.
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3. Mouse lag/negative acceleration in games without Raw Input - This is my biggest issue. Any game that doesn't have a "raw input" option (which is quite a lot of games) has pretty terrible mouse lag in Windows 8.1. It's apparently caused by the Multi-DPI monitor improvements in 8.1. There's a workaround by putting each game in Windows 8 compatibility mode and checking "disable scaling on high DPI settings" and running as administrator, but I really don't feel like doing that for every one of my games. I tried it out in CS:GO - enabling and disabling raw input (m_rawinput 1 or 0 respectively) and could immediately feel the difference - it's especially noticeable on higher DPI/sensitivities. In Windows 8.0, switching raw input on or off doesn't perceptibly change the sensitivity/acceleration.

So Windows 8.1 does almost nothing for me (I use Start8, so all the Metro improvements are lost on me), but causes several significant issues. I ended up going back to 8.0, though Microsoft will stop supporting it in 2 years (understandable on their part, but still annoying), so I'm not sure what I'll do then. If these issues aren't fixed, I'll probably end up back at Windows 7 in 2 years.
 
Terpfen said:
The "cruft" is the previous operating system. Windows now moves the old install to a different folder, drops a new OS install in the Windows folder, and imports everything to give the appearance of an in place upgrade.

Disk Cleanup will now wipe that old install and most of the leftover files.
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Well yes, but a lot of people don't know about disk cleanup.
 
Anyone with a Steelseries Merc USB keyboard have issues updating from 8.0 --> 8.1? I thought I had read on another site where they had to uninstall the software first. Same for some Logitech products.
 
I went the 8.1 RTM-to-patch route on a spare drive in my rig over the weekend...while there was an issue with my old WMC8 key (I think I entered it in the wrong place, so that one's on me) hosing the activation process and forcing a reinstall, the only serious issue so far is that the W8 Boot Manager for whatever reason didn't detect my W7 installation on my primary SSD. I tried adding it using a utility called BCDEdit, but the subsequent boot attempt somehow caused a hard enough lockup that I had to clear CMOS to get the system to boot; on the bright side, the W7 install is just fine booting directly off the drive via BIOS. Probably dodged a bullet, though I suppose I'll still have to try the long way around via DVD later...
 
Windows 8.1 update borked all the drivers on my Intel NUC, despite installing the latest from Intel after updating. Additionally XBMC crashed on simple menu navigation.

Luckily I had a full backup pre-8.1 image.
 
spencers said:
Windows 8.1 update borked all the drivers on my Intel NUC, despite installing the latest from Intel after updating. Additionally XBMC crashed on simple menu navigation.

Luckily I had a full backup pre-8.1 image.
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Intel is having a rough time with this update, and that's an intel product lol...

What did you use for your windows 8 image? MS removed the scheduled system image in 8.1.. Now you have to do it manually or create a power shell script. I'm finding new missing things everyday.
 
Entilza said:
Intel is having a rough time with this update, and that's an intel product lol...

What did you use for your windows 8 image? MS removed the scheduled system image in 8.1.. Now you have to do it manually or create a power shell script. I'm finding new missing things everyday.
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Acronis True Image. I have an older version installed on a bootable USB stick. Really comes in handy!
 
Its amazing how badly they've botched the launch of 8.1. Esp when you consider it was delayed for a long time after RTM, just so they could iron out exactly this kind of issue.

The last thing 8.1 needs is more negative press.
 
I keep a pre-8.1 image from Macrium Reflect just in case, but I've been using the RTM version of 8.1 sans any major issues for a while.
If anyone is interested in doing a clean/fresh install of 8.1, check out the OS forum on how to download an ISO of the final version of 8.1. That's a hell of a lot better than having to install and patch repeatedly.
 
Has there been any news about the secure boot isn't configured correctly. MS been telling people to turn it on. Just hope those people know you won't be able to use 3rd party utilities that boot on a CD or flash drive.

Maybe there is a hack to get rid of the message on the desktop?

Also in win 8.1 system restore keeps getting turned on after I turn it off. For my system drive. Its the boot drive an SSD.
 
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Galvin said:
Has there been any news about the secure boot isn't configured correctly. MS been telling people to turn it on. Just hope those people know you won't be able to use 3rd party utilities that boot on a CD or flash drive.

Maybe there is a hack to get rid of the message on the desktop?
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They want to make sure you don't even think about dual booting Linux or anything else for that matter. Yeah, yeah "Its for your safety, Microsoft wants to keep you safe." Meanwhile we've gotten this far without it just fine, and Windows is still the monopoly on the desktop. But for some reason this is suddenly extremely urgent.
 
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8.1 is bugged out on all my computers. Software keeps crashing, computers won't sleep, monitors don't shut off, internet sites keep getting errors. All I did was update it through the windows update on all three computers including my laptop. This is by far worse than anything microsoft has put out. WTF is going on here?
 
The 8.1 update has plagued my two gaming rigs with issues. Mouse lag, IE acting goofy, pc wont go into sleep on their own. I just may reinstall Win 8.0 again with start is back and call it quits until Win 9 is released.
 
Reading of all the issues, I'm kind of glad that apparently MS doesn't think I should get the update (nothing in store to download). Ill just stick with vanilla 8.
 
Anyone else having homegroup problems with 8.1? I cannot seem to create one, (no options in control panel), or change the password on the existing one, (there actually shouldn't be an existing one lol). Its like the whole homegroup functionality is broken on all my systems here that were upgraded to 8.1.
 
I just updated OSX and my linux distros. Only improvements, no problems. Perhaps you should consider switching camps? Or just remain at Win7 which seems to work.
 
WIth my Sig rig I'm having all kinds of weird problems. Probably because Asus dosnt support windows 8.1 for my specific hardware. My audio is doing some weird shit, when I unplug it and plug it back in the Sub on my Logitech 5.1 setup makes a dull "boom". Also, in League of Legends the audio has a drastic delay and half the audio isn't even outputting. Also, in windows 7 I used to be able to alt+tab easily, now when I do it I get a black screen and nothing is visible but the task bar on the bottom although the mouse cursor reacts as it should to things on my desktop. Also, my sub is making a weird "buzzing" noise all the time. It's probably audio driver incompatibilities or something I'm not sure. I will probably just revert back to windows 7 then on my new build use Windows 8. Hopefully I dont have issues transferring over my upgrade license.
 
Well I have to take part of my words back too. It seems my MBP also has problems after the latest OSX update. If I unplug the thunderbolt display after putting the MBP to sleep, it displays the secondary display on the primary display when you wake it up the next time and doesn't seem to recover automatically. Good ol' Steve would not have let the OS out with this kind of imperfection...
 
B00nie said:
Well I have to take part of my words back too. It seems my MBP also has problems after the latest OSX update. If I unplug the thunderbolt display after putting the MBP to sleep, it displays the secondary display on the primary display when you wake it up the next time and doesn't seem to recover automatically. Good ol' Steve would not have let the OS out with this kind of imperfection...
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Nah, he would have just said you are using it wrong. :D
 
They want to make sure you don't even think about dual booting Linux or anything else for that matter. Yeah, yeah "Its for your safety, Microsoft wants to keep you safe." Meanwhile we've gotten this far without it just fine, and Windows is still the monopoly on the desktop. But for some reason this is suddenly extremely urgent.
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This is extremely ignorant. Secure boot has nothing to do with Microsoft-except them supporting it. Secure boot is part of EFI spec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot
 
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