when can we actually, you know, order laptop with haswell?
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when can we actually, you know, order laptop with haswell?
The new Razer Blade is already stating that it will have the new Haswell chips in them.
I personally will be skipping Haswell. I am locked into ivy right now on two machines and I think they handle everything I can throw at them well.
Is a razor blade included with it? So you can delid the CPU.The new Razer Blade is already stating that it will have the new Haswell chips in them.
Is a razor blade included with it? So you can delid the CPU.
A64 3400? good grief. even a $450 off the shelf pc from Wal Mart would be like a super computer compared to that. might as well go Haswell at this point though.So what would be the recommendation on a new build? My computer (Athlon 64 3400+) died a year ago and I haven't gotten around to upgrade. I was going to go with an Ivybridge 3570k but figured I'd wait for Haswell. Would I be better off getting a 3570k or going with the Haswell equivalent?
Haswell should be a terrific upgrade for you. If you are currently using a sandy/ivy bridge cpu, then it isn't much of an upgrade.So what would be the recommendation on a new build? My computer (Athlon 64 3400+) died a year ago and I haven't gotten around to upgrade. I was going to go with an Ivybridge 3570k but figured I'd wait for Haswell. Would I be better off getting a 3570k or going with the Haswell equivalent?
A64 3400? good grief. even a $450 off the shelf pc from Wal Mart would be like a super computer compared to that. might as well go Haswell at this point though.
seeing how the haswell reviews have been underwhelming so far, you might be better off with buying an ivy bridge cpu and saving some $$
at least that is what I am considering if the i5 reviews are still mediocre
there was no need to wait for anything after all said and done.
if you already have the i7 920 or i7 2700 then you should just wait for the new architecture.
the main thing was to upgrade from the 775 platform.
In laptops its not overclocked though and lower clocks.
Additionally, Haswell has a more specialized point of consideration for synthetic stress tests. When using an adaptive VID,
voltage levels will be automatically increased by the iVR when AVX instructions are detected from an application. An example is noted below:
A defined voltage of 1.245/1.250 would produce a CPU voltage of 1.245 or 1.250 under a normal realworld multi-thread application under load.
Using the same defined voltage of 1.245/1.250 but running a synthetic stress test like Prime 95 with AVX, produces a CPU load voltage of 1.370.
This increase must be considered as it could induce thermal throttle and overwhelm the cooling capabilities of the thermal solution being used.
Was scouring the net for more information on Haswell heat issues.
Someone in OCN pointed out, from the Asus guide
Looks like it's relevant to the heat issue. A 'new' way of OCing to get around this perhaps?
In fact, 6GHz will be the minium OC for most OC'er Users, and not only with a 80x multiplier, i think the main diference as i stated several times on this same topic comes with the 3 bases of blck, 100mhz stock, 125mhz ans 167mhz. That only affect the processor and not the pci and dmi lines, free upgrade without impact the voltage, that as the image posted at 2.29VID the last news about haswell said it will perform optimum even at 2.3v stable.. So will be mucho easier to reach 6-8ghz without touch the max multiplier and voltages...
Well you are wrong, using the 167mhz blck base profile, does not need any voltage bump, does not even touch the pcie lines, or dmi lines, all keep at 100mhz while processor blck remain at 167 (without the 5-7% extra margin as sandy/ivy was possible to jump in the blck) so if you have 167mhz with the stock 35 multiplier 167mhzx35=5.8ghz instant jump.. WITHOUT do anything more than increase the blck base.. (That mean in a lower increase on the heat... Cuz the chip are under stock multiplier and voltages... Most people will like to use the 167mhz blck base with a 40 multiplier for a 6.6ghz or increase the blck to 170mhz and same 40 multiplier to get 6.8ghz. Its not anything insane... That test was just stated by intel.. Nothing crazy... They said that even using 125mhz blck base allow for even higher stability on increased voltage for enthusiast ppl..
In fact, 6GHz will be the minium OC for most OC'er Users, and not only with a 80x multiplier, i think the main diference as i stated several times on this same topic comes with the 3 bases of blck, 100mhz stock, 125mhz ans 167mhz. That only affect the processor and not the pci and dmi lines, free upgrade without impact the voltage, that as the image posted at 2.29VID the last news about haswell said it will perform optimum even at 2.3v stable.. So will be mucho easier to reach 6-8ghz without touch the max multiplier and voltages...
I've been doing it on my SB i5 and IB i7 since I owned them. I can't imagine why this would be any different on Haswell. I call BS on that claim.
That said, it would be a very weak reason to not go Haswell.