What do you mean by scene crack? Are you talking about being able to watch and view the cutscenes? if so, well they were definitely fine.
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Ubisoft Games Will Require Constant Internet Connection
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What do you mean by scene crack? Are you talking about being able to watch and view the cutscenes? if so, well they were definitely fine.
Thats not terribly surprising considering how Double Agent was. Maybe I should reinstall Chaos Theory again.
Show some Pics of crack cutscenes?
I would if it was cracked on my computer. My dl speed is ~368, I'm not going to waste my little precious bandwidth downloading that fud. I'll try to snap some pics if I end up going back over to my friends, I'm going disc golfing with him in a little while.
no he means the illegal scene which has all thoose groups that are skilled in cracking games on pc,xbox etc etc and putting up on sites free to download..
Here's some screenshots we took. some cutscene and then gameplay moving around with another cutscene after it.
approaching room
cutscene in the room
cutscene
cutscene
cutscene
walking away after said cutscenes
approaching room
cutscene in the room
cutscene
cutscene
cutscene
walking away after said cutscenes
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Are you still talking about that "scene crack" comment? Like Mortuus said, the people who make most of these cracks refer to themselves collectively as the cracking scene. A scene crack is a release that follows the scene rules. Most importantly, they need to actually remove the copy protection, rather than just emulating disc drives or authentication servers.
The working crack that your friend is no doubt using is a server emulator. Hence not a scene release, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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The "scene" is the sort of underground world of cracking groups, these are the organised group of individuals who race to see who can crack the copy protection first, like some kind of sport. Most of the illegal distribution of media today has been cracked by scene groups.
The scene enforces amongst itself a fairly strict set of standards which ensures that the quality of scene cracks for software/games are of the highest quality, basically anti-piracy code is disabled without affecting the rest of the game. If a scene group messes up a crack then it's "nuked" which means it doesn't reach the scene standards for quality and other groups get to continue to race to release a "proper" which actually works.
Currently there is no scene crack for the game, but there are people who have worked out how to get around the copy protection in other more awkward ways. Ubisofts anti piracy measures have slowed the scene down this time but only because the groups adhere to such high quality standards for their releases. Other people who are simply only concerned in playing free games have worked around it already, it's just very...gracefull.
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What do these scene guys do (besides cracking) .... hang out on IRC and debate the legitimacy of various cracks? Almost sounds like they have some sort of ruling council.
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No ruling council, they guvern themselves by sticking to some basic rules/ideas.
No one really knows what they "do" because it's all very secrative, but I'd guess most of them are in the profession they're tinkering with, so crackers are probably coders of some description, the standards for getting this stuff right is reasonably high.
Then my direction will be headed to the consoles 100 percent and then if it shows up there it's out of gaming entirely. I have other hobbies.
I can. There's plenty of ways to do copy protection without a bunch of BS.
Then you need to step back, look at the big picture, get considerably more informed, and then think it all through. This doesn't stop piracy or work anyways and use of a search engine can prove that to you very quickly.
If anything it creates a bunch of new potential pirates out of spite and other reasons. Plenty of evidence of that out there, too.
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PrincessFrosty
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DRM has never stopped piracy, it encourages it. The scene as previously described do it for respect amongst their peers, it's a challenge. Giving people who like challenges and even harder, more attractive challenge is stupid.
*shrug* I pay for my games and the way things are going, all of us will have computers available to connect to the internet at all times. I much prefer this than the '5 limit' installations.
I mostly game on console except for the few good pc exclusive titles anyway. I have looked at the big picture, pc gaming is not a money maker for many companies, if this would help keep things legit and support more pc titles, im for it.
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huxley, piracy is a problem that needs to be dealt with. But shoving nasty DRM into a game doesn't punish the pirates. It only hurts people who actually buy it.
You can wish the greatest missile of justice to hammer the pirates, but it's only going fly past them and hit people who bought it.
You can wish the greatest missile of justice to hammer the pirates, but it's only going fly past them and hit people who bought it.
I prefer none of the above.
Your apathetic "that's the way it is" attitude is part of the problem. *shrugs*
Check globally and get back to me on that money making aspect.
Now I know you're not well informed on this subject at all.
World of Warcraft is just too easy of an example to use and there are plenty of others out there.
If you're mostly a console gamer I would think you'd be adamantly against this sort of thing. Most console only gamers I know would go ape if they ever saw the likes of this sort of thing.
No, its not part of the problem. The only problem is the rampant theft, fix that and the whole issue goes away. Too bad it will just get worse, developers have to protect their intellectual property. I am 28, and have been into computers most of my life, I am well aware of the subject and the different viewpoints.
World of Warcraft requires an internet connection to play, you are not bright.
Piracy is obviously the core root of the problem, yes.
It takes on another dimension and becomes a vicious cycle of defeat when you have publishers overreact in the wrong direction which this kind of DRM cleary is.
Assuming everyone is guilty and treating them as such upfront...which this kind of DRM clearly does...only makes the problem worse.
I can't state it any plainer.
That's because it's an online MMO not a single player game. You can't play that kind of game offline.
Obviously for an MMO or other "online only" games I understand what's supposed to happen there and how that works.
I've seen apologists constantly throw around that example like it's the same thing Ubisoft is doing with their DRM and that simply isn't the case.
Nice try.
Well you're using a multiplayer argument for a single player problem. Most games (at least the biggest ones) that are multiplayer do cd authentication when you go to play online, which is almost exactly the same thing you are ranting and raving against. Your arguments are the same as WoW assuming someone is a customer and letting them play on their servers as long as they check the box that says 'I promise I paid for this'.
I won't give the consoles the satisfaction, I would rather quit altogether. Like you, I have other hobbies.
Thats a really shortsighted view for someone who claims to be looking at the big picture. For one we are not anywhere near everyone having a constant stable internet connection. You're essentially alienating everyone who isn't in a major metropolitan area, or who doesn't want to shell out 80USD a month. In addition, PC Gaming is the backbone from which console gaming relies, unless of MS and Sony decide that games don't need to advance at all past where they are today. Secondly why do you feel that we should be obligated to purchase any game, especially one that puts rediculous restrictions on the product. I for one only have a limited about of money to spend on games/gaming and I would rather spend it on other PC games that are much less draconian.
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I've already started moving to board games. No DRM there. teehee.
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logic fail
Hopefully you can see the holes the size of the Grand Canyon in your argument there
Axis and Allies? Settlers of Catan?
I dont...why dont you point them out.
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Last Night on Earth: The Zombie Game, Battlestar Galactica, Axis & Allies 1942, Agricola, Memoir '44, Tide of Iron, among others. Someone in our group has Catan, but hasn't taught us yet.
Our game night get-togethers are way more fun and social than most video games will ever be.
I spent a lot of time when I worked for the Arizona state government playing Axis and Allies 1942. One memorable occassion was where the Japanese actually conquered Russia, but then the UK took all of Russia back and then did a daring 8 bomber and 1 landing craft with two soldiers on Berlin that succeeded. It was astounding.
Settlers of Catan in my experience has caused more angst than any other game I have seen. Which is really amusing since there is no overt violence in the game. Someone usually gets accused of being a monopolistic whore and then a trade dispute erupts over the lack of sheep. I imagine its exactly how the UN works.
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At least it sounds like you've finished a game of AA'42, we went 3-4 hours and packed it up (friend had to drive home). Never play that game on a Sunday night if you can't leave it out for the next weekend.
And what is it with games about limited resources and trading that make its players angry? Noticed the same thing with Agricola.. it's a farming game FFS!
And what is it with games about limited resources and trading that make its players angry? Noticed the same thing with Agricola.. it's a farming game FFS!
Well in government we had lots of spare time, especially when the legislature wasn't in session.
I love it when theres contention in games, people say the funniest things. Hell, my mother in law dumped a glass of water over her own head playing Settlers. It was great.
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Human Nature. Humans are depraved monkeys. Whenever there's no accountability, things go to hell. Just look at any governing authority that isn't controlled by checks and balances.
BTW, what's fun is the trash talking while playing foosball. Good times. Half the fun was the talk.
BTW, what's fun is the trash talking while playing foosball. Good times. Half the fun was the talk.
We played last night on earth on saturday haha, that is a fun group game. We also played 'A Touch of Evil' which is pretty fun since you can do a good co-op game.
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Doesn't the existence of a server emulator (reverse engineered game server that runs locally and authenticates the game) make this sort of copy protection worthless?
Earth to UBISoft: Nobody likes this type of DRM, and its already been cracked. Cut your losses, mark it down as a failed experiment, and move on.
Earth to UBISoft: Nobody likes this type of DRM, and its already been cracked. Cut your losses, mark it down as a failed experiment, and move on.
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Haven't tried AToE, but I dig Flying Frog Studios. They're coming out with "Invasion from Outer Space: The Martian Game," which plays a lot like Last Night on Earth, and can even be combined with Last Night on Earth.
Please pay attention to the rest of the industry. Ubisoft is ass-backwards on this one, EVERYONE ELSE is moving away from strict DRM. Ubisoft, it seems, just isn't interested in making PC games anymore.
Good riddance.
I dont like the super zombies in the expansion of lnoe though, way too strong.