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Hey g1... didnt you post this stuff in the network/pics thread a while back? 6 months or so... where you were converting a closet into relay rack/shelves?? looks familiar
 
Alright, I've started a new project that if you would like you may participate in.

First, a few future things I would like to accomplish with this project.

  1. I am hoping to get an Economy setup on the server
  2. I want to create a physical location people can go to buy and sell goods.
  3. Prices will have to be figured out ahead of time, I am not doing this so you can easily get diamonds.

General Guide Lines, might not be everything but most are on the wall of rules

  • All buildings must be approved by Greatone123 (me)
  • This is a city, I want to it to look like a city.
  • Buildings must have a structure to them, supports where 'needed' and nothing floats.
  • Buildings don't HAVE to have a purpose, office buildings government buildings etc are just for looks.
  • When you create your shop, you do get a choice if it's functional or just for looks.
  • Do not build over the streets, keep them clear, stay to your property.
  • I understand this is MINEcraft, but there is plenty other places to mine do not dig tunnels around the city, unless obviously it's for a REAL purpose (which I know about)
  • There will be a subway system under the roads, it will be used for transportation around the city. we aren't creating warps all over the place.
  • If you want to reserve a location in the city, you must put a sign with a date infront of your property. You have 1 week to show progress or it will be removed.


I'll add more as needed, if you have questions feel free to ask.
 
In case anyone doesn't know, these work together, with a caveat:

Chest and Door Protection:
Place a sign next to a chest, or on top/front of a door.
Type the following:

Line1= [private]
Line2=
Line3=Friend1
Line4=Friend2

Power Changer Signs:

Create a sign

use this format: <no power|powered>

when the power is off, the sign will say "no power" = when the power is on, the sign will say "powered"

it must fit on the light, you can have multiple lines but must all follow the same format. Example =
<A|B>
<C|D>
<E|F>
<G|H>

with no power the sign will say ACEG, with power the sign will say BDFH
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The caveat is that you can lock yourself out of your own chest unless you explicitly enter your name in the second line of the sign, or else put <your name|your name> in the second line (eg <eggrock|eggrock>). You can then toggle access for others using lines 3 & 4, for example:

Line 1: [Private]
Line 2: eggrock
Line 3: <Greatone123|>

G1 can use the chest if the sign is unpowered, while I can always use the chest. The block beneath the sign should be powered to prevent unauthorized access (untested, but it should work.)

[edit] Re: Economy & stores

It will probably also work to lock doors at night and unlock them in the morning. Remotely. Cool!
 
Greatone123 said:
[*]Prices will have to be figured out ahead of time, I am not doing this so you can easily get diamonds.
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Is there any way to list all of the mined assets on the server (amount of mined cobble, diamonds etc.) to get a general idea of what's out there?
 
Greatone123 said:
Alright, I've started a new project that if you would like you may participate in.

First, a few future things I would like to accomplish with this project.

  1. I am hoping to get an Economy setup on the server
  2. I want to create a physical location people can go to buy and sell goods.
  3. Prices will have to be figured out ahead of time, I am not doing this so you can easily get diamonds.

General Guide Lines, might not be everything but most are on the wall of rules

  • All buildings must be approved by Greatone123 (me)
  • This is a city, I want to it to look like a city.
  • Buildings must have a structure to them, supports where 'needed' and nothing floats.
  • Buildings don't HAVE to have a purpose, office buildings government buildings etc are just for looks.
  • When you create your shop, you do get a choice if it's functional or just for looks.
  • Do not build over the streets, keep them clear, stay to your property.
  • I understand this is MINEcraft, but there is plenty other places to mine do not dig tunnels around the city, unless obviously it's for a REAL purpose (which I know about)
  • There will be a subway system under the roads, it will be used for transportation around the city. we aren't creating warps all over the place.
  • If you want to reserve a location in the city, you must put a sign with a date infront of your property. You have 1 week to show progress or it will be removed.


I'll add more as needed, if you have questions feel free to ask.
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I'm interested in an economy only for the rare materials I have trouble finding naturally; not just diamonds. Really glowstone is the only thing I've been wanting, but unable to get.

I'll build something in the city too. Is there going to be a warp to it? Also, what kind of scale are we talking about here?

eggrock said:
Is there any way to list all of the mined assets on the server (amount of mined cobble, diamonds etc.) to get a general idea of what's out there?
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I think that would be a flawed look at the available resources. Especially looking at things like diamond - where it would be really unrealistic to consider ALL those diamonds "available".
 
there probably is a way to track it all, but it would prolly have to track as it happens. so anything that was already mined wouldn't be available.



there is a warp, CityCraft

it's a city, there are large buildings and small buildings... if we are the citizens it's scaled to us lol...
 
NickTheNut said:
I think that would be a flawed look at the available resources. Especially looking at things like diamond - where it would be really unrealistic to consider ALL those diamonds "available".
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Do you mean available for sale? I'm talking about stuff already mined.

Regardless, a server-wide inventory would simply be a data point. I don't mean to suggest that it would be an accurate indicator of prices, or clocks would be roughly equivalent in value to EVE monocles.

I just hope I can afford the 'creeper protection fee' charged by our local diamond emporium. ;)
 
eggrock said:
I just hope I can afford the 'creeper protection fee' charged by our local diamond emporium. ;)
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I'm sure you can. We have very reasonable rates.

Also, you should note, it isn't just protection from Creepers. We offer protection from all kinds of bad stuff that could happen if you are not protected.
 
eggrock said:
Do you mean available for sale? I'm talking about stuff already mined.

Regardless, a server-wide inventory would simply be a data point. I don't mean to suggest that it would be an accurate indicator of prices, or clocks would be roughly equivalent in value to EVE monocles.

I just hope I can afford the 'creeper protection fee' charged by our local diamond emporium. ;)
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Ohh. I misunderstood. I thought you meant un-mined resources.

eggrock said:
What's the vig?
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huh?
 
eggrock said:
I'm wondering about the amount of late payments our--Italian friends--will charge if we're late on our protection payments. :p (Directed @ DyNamiC.)
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you dont have to direct at DyNamiC, just look at me...... and my friend, Mr. luiville slugger!
 
MavericK96 said:
Wat? I don't think so...

The lateral block limit in Minecraft is like the scale equivalent of the surface area of the earth...
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dj_2004 said:
Except we use borders.
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This.

I could be wrong, but I think we've already explored outwards in all directions possible due to the border limitations. Though I think there's space within that hasn't been explored yet... not sure.
 
So who wants to build a scale model of Laputa with me once the official skyworld comes out? :p

Reference:
laputa-castle.jpg
 
I still need to watch that...

I could help when you and I are online, just ask. My name is Zexx on the server... I build towers, and lava things.
 
TED said:
I still need to watch that...

I could help when you and I are online, just ask. My name is Zexx on the server... I build towers, and lava things.
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It's probably better to wait for the official update, the current skyworld AFAIK will be wiped once it comes out. I might start building something else just for the hell of it though, because I think skyworld (and the adventure update) has been pushed back until 1.8 :(
 
Thermite Paste said:
So who wants to build a scale model of Laputa with me once the official skyworld comes out? :p

Reference:
laputa-castle.jpg
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I had started a floating island back on Hashland - but then lost it and moved on to other projects... I was thinking of building a floating island for my next project, but not having it in the skyworld (official or not). It will be near Zexx's Tower, and Pumpkin Island.

TED said:
I still need to watch that...

I could help when you and I are online, just ask. My name is Zexx on the server... I build towers, and lava things.
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Have you seen the latest addition to Pumpkin Island? I finished the railway going down to my lair last night as well. But I thought you would be happy with my addition of lava to the build ;) Not as much as I'd like, but I got tired of building it :O

Thermite Paste said:
It's probably better to wait for the official update, the current skyworld AFAIK will be wiped once it comes out. I might start building something else just for the hell of it though, because I think skyworld (and the adventure update) has been pushed back until 1.8 :(
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I didn't know there was an official announcement as to what update would have skyworld? I know the adventure update has been pushed to 1.8. 1.7's new item will only be the pistons I believe.
 
NickTheNut said:
I didn't know there was an official announcement as to what update would have skyworld? I know the adventure update has been pushed to 1.8. 1.7's new item will only be the pistons I believe.
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Notch said on his tumblr that 1.7 will only contain bugfixes and pistons, although there's nothing specifically saying it won't have a sky dimension, but I think he would have announced it if it was. It's coming out Thursday so it would be known by now :(

http://notch.tumblr.com/post/6969771554/back-in-the-office-and-some-words-on-1-7-and-1-8
 
add this mod please.
will make minecraft a lot more fun:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emLKG-b1isw&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - &#x202a;Kataminey Damacraft (Katamari Minecraft) Part 2: Fixes & Such&#x202c;&rlm;[/ame]
 
OK G1, I am really excited about getting the market, so Im gonna give out these suggestions. First, everything should be purchasable and sellable. Doubt this is every item in game.. infact I know it isnt, but it may get you started. numbers are sell/buy.

Stone 3/8
Snow 1/4
Snow Block 4/16
Dirt 1/3
Sand 1/4
Sandstone 4/16
Gravel 1/2
Flint 3/5
Gold Ore 5/10
Gold Ingot 12/25
Gold Block 100/300
Iron Ore 8/16
Iron Ingot 10/20
Iron Block 100/200
Diamond 50/150
Diamond Block 450/1540
Redstone 5/15
Lapis Lazuli 10/20
Clay 5/10
Clay Block 15/30
Coal Ore 30
Coal 5/10
Ice 25/40
Planks 1/4
Wood 5/15
Birch Wood 5/15
Pine/Spurce Wood 5/15
Leaves 20
Cactus 1/3
Sugar Cane 1/3
Pumpkins 2/8
Yellow Flowers 2/8
Red Flowers 2/8
brown Mushrooms 5/10
red Mushrooms 5/10
Cobblestone 1/5
Moss Stone 30/70
Mob Spawner 100/10000
Chest 10/30
Obsidian 40/90

ALL mob drops 1/15
 
Lapis should be higher, it's rarer than diamond basically... Less useful, but still a find ;)
 
0mega said:
Lapis should be higher, it's rarer than diamond basically... Less useful, but still a find ;)
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The blocks of lapis ore may be rarer than diamond, but you get several from one block. I've only got 1 stack of diamonds, but something like 5/6 stacks of lapis :D
 
Oh and thiis is the nuke mod (ignore the crappy first one and last 2)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiyZVtBzq0"]YouTube - &#x202a;Minecraft - Nuke TNT Mod 1.3&#x202c;&rlm;[/ame]
 
IMO:
Mushrooms, flowers, and pumpkins should all be worth 1 when being sold since bone meal makes it easy to make tons of them, and there are chests full of bones in the public grinder.

Why is iron ore worth more than gold ore? Since people complain about gold being near useless, maybe make it fetch a decent selling price?

Obsidian seems to be worth too much since it can be crafted easily enough.
 
It being useless is the exact reason for it to be low priced, people actually use iron so selling it will effect them more hence the larger price tag.

If we switch to an Economy system, a lot of the duplication and special crafting will go away. The crafting and duplication was an alternate way to get items that are either harder to get or are limited because of the border. If we go economy then the reason behind it is now void.

Bonemeal extras = gone
Special crafting = gone (diamonds, clay, ice, apple tree)

having both would flood the economy making it go down the shitter.. like the US :-P
 
Wait, you can craft clay? Because I was thinking of making my build in CityCraft a brick building... share your secrets with me GreatOne!
 
So gold is kept useless? I see. Works for me since I like to use gold for decoration and have hundreds of iron ore I can sell.

I hope that blocks of diamond and other ores are slightly less than purchasing the ores 1 by 1. Else, what is the point of paying more when it takes a few seconds to craft it?

Finally, I still think Obsidian is too high valued going by Zexx's prices.
 
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