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An interesting post on the ANet blog. It looks like we can customize the music pretty easily.
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The Official Guild Wars 2 thread
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Once the game is better known, effective team builds will emerge for specific areas.
One thing I don't see mentioned a lot is that skills from different players are supposed to interact.
GW1 was compelling because you had well over 1000 skills from 10 professions that you could mix and combine in interesting ways. From this there emerged a number of special builds that enabled special capabilities - like the Terra Tank Elementalists that were almost invincible to most forms of damage and the Permanent Shadowform Assassins that were even better.
No doubt special team combos will appear that allow a close knit team to really magnify their ability with good cooperation.
One thing I don't see mentioned a lot is that skills from different players are supposed to interact.
GW1 was compelling because you had well over 1000 skills from 10 professions that you could mix and combine in interesting ways. From this there emerged a number of special builds that enabled special capabilities - like the Terra Tank Elementalists that were almost invincible to most forms of damage and the Permanent Shadowform Assassins that were even better.
No doubt special team combos will appear that allow a close knit team to really magnify their ability with good cooperation.
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Are there still going to be a shit ton of skills?
Well, the devs did say that they took out a lot of the number of skills and multiclassing because it was impossible to balance.
That said, the fact that you can spec pretty much any class for support/damage/control should make things easier once people "l2p". Hopefully they add spec slots like in gw1 so you can quickly change your skills/talents.
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that does sounds like sweetness.
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From my brief experience in the PVP so far, as well as all the other footage I've seen, it looks like it will be pretty high. Not really enough time in the game yet to say 100% though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHAFoxfLl34&list=PLCCFAF0C5F0ED403A&index=8&feature=plcp
This guy seems to be pretty good, and able to do 1v3's with the engineer. Pretty impressive to watch, with the commentary you can see how much hes thinking with each action.
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I was able to do a few 1 v 2's on a Mesmer and on a Guardian. I know I got lucky on a couple of them, but skill is going to dictate how a lot of fights go. Also as group we had 5 to 6 people in vent and held off 10+ for a very long time. Wasn't until 2 of our the melee guys and myself over extended that we got eaten up by siege weaponry and died.
who on earth would want to change the music? The sound track for the original GW1 was epic, and I expect the same for GW2.
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Maaaybe...
From the beta weekend, I definitely feel that GW1 music > GW2 music. One reason to change the music would be to put the GW1 music in!
So nostalgic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrFSDWx82sw
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GW1 is very good, and very nostalgic now. But I love the GW2 soundtrack. Charr theme is great. I think they took more than just a page from LoTR Mordor music and the Uruk-hai in general.
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is the beta weekend event beginning again at 12:00 PDT again?
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Haha, I think we all wished that were true...
I think they're going to have more beta weekends, but haven't officially announced any dates in the future.
When can we play this game? Release is 6/26/2012 but if we pre purchase can we play or just on the beta weekends? I can't afford it yet so I want an eta to have the $$ squirreled away in paypal. I can see a fs thread in my near future.
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It doesn't have a release date yet.
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Anyone who played DAOC, any thoughts on the WvWvW? I had second thoughts about plunking down the cash sight unseen so I haven't gotten to play yet... I'm wondering if as a longtime DAOC player if I'd enjoy this, compared to say TOR which I'm enjoying now but pining for open-world PVP in.
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I played DAoC heavily from beta until shortly after ToA. Came back off and on then. Was Mid/Merlin and in some of the more serious RvR guilds. I also played Warhammer online longer than I should have with some hope they would improve RvR.
I'd say it's the absolute closest thing to DAoC RvR there has been. Ever. End game class balance is going to dictate quality of experience later on, but ArenaNet has a decent history of balancing.
I see massive potential for large guild/alliance based RvR again. The only thing I disliked is the same thing they added to DAoC, and that is battlegrounds. It was always my opinion that if you wanted to PvP, you needed to be in the open world. There are still BGs, but I have to think population is going to be more than adequate to support both PvP playstyles.
Pros -
Large scale, relatively lag free fights
Very good siege/keep system with a supply system that matters - better than DAoC really
Not a ton of CC, but enough to make a difference
Very large battlefields with many strategic options
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No /assist. This was a blessing and a curse in DAoC. Zerg fights degenerate into picking off people that get overextended. No /assist will also make it difficult for smaller, but more organized groups, to decimate larger disorganized groups. However, with the high skill ceiling, I think this will still be possible.
Battlegrounds - Why? They have a terrific WvW system. Make it the star of the show.
Tied to previous, but without /assist melee trains will have a tough time staying organized or effective. Kiting is extremely effective as is. Ranged classes a bit more dominant than they should be. I hope they don't nerf ranged, but just buff melee a bit.
edit -- I just read that CTRL-T will place a marker on top of a targets head, and then group members only need to hit T to target. If this is true, and works in PvP, then disregard my previous comments on the subject.
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Nothing official by any means, but Gamestop has it listed for release on 6/26/2012. Not holding my breath but I have always been hoping for a summer release.
just a little something to cut through all the confirmation bias bullshit by so many WoW, RIFT and SWTOR players out there downplaying the game and claiming it's just like rifts and still kill X collect Y, no story, no chaining, no variety, no context, no nothing not done in those games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CyqGJHTjes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CyqGJHTjes
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While the attention to detail in these events is very praiseworthy, all of these 'dynamic' events are pre-scripted. The same chain of events will happen for another player at another time, so the unique / dynamic / world changing part of it gets diminished somewhat.
I went through the 1-7 levels 5 different times, and 3 times as a human. All 3 times on my humans, my characters experienced the same repeated "dynamic" events. That's not to say they're bad, it's just that these events might as well ultimately be just like hearts.
It is interesting that the NPC's actually physically act out everything though. I hadn't even realized that. It's unfortunate that this will likely be lost on the majority of players, myself included. I know there's no way I'm sticking around after every event just to see what happened. My leveling buddies might not want to wait around for me either.
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I think one good reason to stick around is that some times other events start after the NPC has run back to town or turned in whatever it was you were collecting. I do agree though that the events happen too often. If you stay in the same area for more then 20 mins you will see the same long event chain start over a few times. I think they need to spread out when the event repeats. I know I saw those bears attack that village like 4 times when I was in that zone.
While they may be pre-scripted, you can also fail the event, and that will sometimes lead to a more rare event (assuming you normally win). There were multiple times where I was doing an Event with a bunch of people and we failed it, causing a new event to form. That in itself is significantly different than Hearts.
all of the above concerns are actively being addressed and it has long been confirmed(here's a recent article talking about it again) that they will be adding new events nearly weekly after launch into those same zones. there's already some different events for the time of day, and yes "dynamic" is a misnomer, but it's pretty fitting compared to what we're use to. not to mention no matter what, starter zone events will repeat more often due to both player action and population density.
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Thanks... yeah, I see a lot of people saying GW2 hasn't really done anything different, even on the RVR and just find that hard to believe...
Silversliver thanks for the write-up there. I may just bite on it once the next beta weekend's announced, I too stuck with Warhammer Online for ages hoping it'd improve after playing DAOC for nearly seven years. If it's like DAOC with some improvements I'd be in hog heaven. How is the skill cap? I saw someone touch on it above, but hoping for DAOC-like cap where a skilled person can take on 2, 3, or so+ people and a group of 8 or so can take on 20, 30, 40 if they're REALLY good compared to the enemy (or at least give em a run for their money!). I was in a high-end DAOC guild myself and my highlights of any game ever were undoubtedly from DAOC....
This may sound odd, but... are there going to be any reasons to do the PVE raids (I guess "exploration" modes) that people will actually go do them for, or is the game's almost-exclusive focus going to be on the WvWvW stuff?
There's a LOT of fud around on any GW2 forum I find, and it's honestly hard to cut through it without people like those on here to help out. I appreciate all of the responses thus far!
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Doesn't sound odd to me at all, but then again i've never been a carebear. The only times i have spent time raiding was to acquire gear to use in PVP, otherwise i see it as a waste of time. I reckon it's there to give carebears a place in the game too, but since the PVP removes gear as a factor in balancing, i could care less.
From what i've heard there will be little reason to do raids unless you just like raiding, in which case you could spend all your time raiding to get better gear to raid the harder content.
Well, there are different item drops, it's just that they are at the same "level" as any other gear. Maybe a sword that you can craft has +100 power and +100 pecision but one that drops in a dungeon is +200 power and 0 precision. They might also look really cool. So its just another way to customize without necessarily letting you "outgear" stuff.
Obviously some people will still do these to improve the effectiveness of their spec/playstyle for wvwvw.
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That's exactly what I wanted to know... I don't love pve raiding but I find it somewhat entertaining if done sparsely and for the purpose (mainly) of enhancing my PVP play.
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Wait, so ALL endgame gear, whether acquired through PvE or PvP is the same item level?
Yes, from everything I have seen/read thus far.
Also, I the "structured pvp" gear is totally separate. All of the ranks of it are exactly the same stats, you just look more like a badass the higher tier you go...and it's only usable in structured pvp. That's how they are trying to make the structured an e-sport.
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There are still item qualities though.
Common White
Fine Blue
Masterwork Green
Rare Yellow
Exotic Orange
Legendary Red
Transmuted Purple
Junk Gray
Not sure how those end up working out at max level but I assume each item quality at max level will be a specific item level.
Common White
Fine Blue
Masterwork Green
Rare Yellow
Exotic Orange
Legendary Red
Transmuted Purple
Junk Gray
Not sure how those end up working out at max level but I assume each item quality at max level will be a specific item level.
Yeah, at the endgame - there are variations of armor pieces. When you go to the mists (the pvp lobby) there is a vendor with the free pvp gear that you can equip yourself with many different types of armor so you can be a tank or glass cannon and many things in between. Then you can equip jewels and the sockets and etc. This is for the control point pvp only and it's pretty bland looking.
In world v world, your gear is whatever you brought there. Inside world v world, there is a vendor that you can buy gear with tokens that you obtain from dead people. I don't know if that gear works outside, but it probably does at level 80.
It is currently unclear how easy it is to get the best gear possible at the end game, but gear will always drop for you relative to your level. Exceptions might be made for dungeon loot. You can always use transmutation stones to make your favorite looking gear to take the stats of other gear.
In world v world, your gear is whatever you brought there. Inside world v world, there is a vendor that you can buy gear with tokens that you obtain from dead people. I don't know if that gear works outside, but it probably does at level 80.
It is currently unclear how easy it is to get the best gear possible at the end game, but gear will always drop for you relative to your level. Exceptions might be made for dungeon loot. You can always use transmutation stones to make your favorite looking gear to take the stats of other gear.
This is a pretty good read on what Guild Wars 2 does different from most other MMOs. A great first-look for people who don't know much about GW2, and even some things that might be new to people who've been awaiting its release. I'll also quote it below and make it easier to read.
Another big one to note is the Overflow server, where you get to play without having to sit there watching a number go down when your server is full. Upon logging into your server, it'll place you in the overflow server and it tells you that you're queued up to enter your actual server. And you get to play!.
Another big one to note is the Overflow server, where you get to play without having to sit there watching a number go down when your server is full. Upon logging into your server, it'll place you in the overflow server and it tells you that you're queued up to enter your actual server. And you get to play!.
Saw some people talking about item levels and such. I honestly don't know how the top gear will work. I'd rather have all gear be equal at the top level but have 100 different models and skins then a specific set. I'm all for great gear, but they can add new tiers later. I want more variety in my MMO's and less sets. Of course i'm an MMO vet and have different views compared to the new WoW generation. I'm use to spending days/weeks/months at a certain level range and that made crafting actually worthwhile. Crafting is pointless now days when you out level anything in a day or 6 hours.
I also saw someone talking about its hard to get good information. I'll tell you what I told all my real life friends that weren't in the beta weekend. From the little I played it was fun and different than any of the current MMO's post WoW. I only had the chance to level a human and Norn character to level 15-20ish. The little I played was great. I miss not being able to play at the moment. I didn't PvP in this beta even and from the WvWvW events I feel like that was a BIG mistake. I also didn't have a chance to explore the capital cities simply because they were too big. I didn't want to spend the hours required.
I'll answer any questions that I can.
I also saw someone talking about its hard to get good information. I'll tell you what I told all my real life friends that weren't in the beta weekend. From the little I played it was fun and different than any of the current MMO's post WoW. I only had the chance to level a human and Norn character to level 15-20ish. The little I played was great. I miss not being able to play at the moment. I didn't PvP in this beta even and from the WvWvW events I feel like that was a BIG mistake. I also didn't have a chance to explore the capital cities simply because they were too big. I didn't want to spend the hours required.
I'll answer any questions that I can.
I'm not sure that's a "good" thing in terms of no mounts (the grind I could do without). I would like to see mounts make their way into the game, since GW2 isn't like GW1 in terms of world (instances/hubs) mounts would be nice to travel around on.
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With the waypoint system you really don't need them imo.
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That's a sweet idea, but the animations make it real rough
Everything looks great on that list but these. They just seem like WoW-type accessibility which was added later like queuing for dungeons from anywhere.
It just makes sense to me that you'd have to go to the market to barter.
It'd make sense that you'd have to wait a few days for the mail to be picked up and sorted and delivered to you. Having maic mailboxesl is such a cop-out
