That's a Rocketfish case, is it not? I see that it's Lian Li branded but looks exactly like it.
It is quite similar. I think it's a little bigger and the build quality is much better with more features.
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That's a Rocketfish case, is it not? I see that it's Lian Li branded but looks exactly like it.
It is quite similar. I think it's a little bigger and the build quality is much better with more features.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXTbWtz--ps
It's actually smaller:
Observed dimensions: 533 x 216 x 546mm (from an a10 review)
measuring my RF without the door is 580x210x590mm
And I doubt the build quality is any better, everything on the RF matches everything I've ever seen on any Lian Li case, it's just a one off configuration they made for someone else. The A10 does have a couple nice extra features (removable MB tray, adjustable fan speed, top vent w/ water cooling holes and block plate for the bottom compartment). But you insinuate that the RF is somehow a cheap knock off or reject Lian Li or something, which is definitely not the case.
lol, this is obviously a sensitive issue for Rocket Fish owners. I assure you that I think the Rocket Fish's are amazing value for money and I would have got one if they were available in the UK. However, The Rocket Fish is not built to the same standard by any means and if you played with the cases side by side that would be very apparent. I was not intending to insinuate anything but fact.
So back it up with a fact, you didn't include a single one in your reply. I haven't "played with them side by side" but I've had my hands on plenty of Lian Li's and I fail to see any difference in build quality between the RF and a Lian Li original other than maybe the flimsy motherboard tray in the RF. Every other piece and part is built exactly the same way with the same materials as some member of the Lian Li lineup as far as I can tell. And if you can't even get one in the UK then where exactly are you drawing this experience that they're not the same level of quality from? I paid 60 bucks for mine so I could care less, and frankly if it's significantly lower in quality I'd be amazed, and hard pressed to fathom how a "real" one could be made any better. It might be a sensitive issue for someone who paid retail since I think this case was 280 bucks before it went on clearance and became the hot seller it was at the end, but like I said, for 60 bucks I could care less.
I've owned multiple Lians and three Rocketfish cases. With the exception of the V1000/1200/2000 that are built like rocks, the Lian and Rocketfish cases are very similar in build quality. Quality control, maybe not, but build quality is the same. To be honest though, I've never been impressed with the build quality of any Lian Li I've owned.lol, this is obviously a sensitive issue for Rocket Fish owners. I assure you that I think the Rocket Fish's are amazing value for money and I would have got one if they were available in the UK. However, The Rocket Fish is not built to the same standard by any means and if you played with the cases side by side that would be very apparent. I was not intending to insinuate anything but fact.
Skyline, thanks! Looks like the MurderMod code is broken! You would not happen to hahe a similar close-up picture of white sleeving?
I haven't read all of the argument, but here are a few facts.
1. Lian Li wants the cases they make, badged as Lian Li to at least appear superior to Rocketfish cases. Otherwise there would be no incentive to own a Lian Li over a Rocketfish. This is true of any company that rebadges their equipment for retailers.
2. If the Rocketfish cases were not in fact cheaper, they would not be able to sell for less.
3. The Rocketfish I see here that is comparable to my A10 has several things that do in fact make it 'inferior.' The HDD Racks, the 3.5" bays(vs all 5.25's all the way down on the A10), no airflow partition for the lower level, lack of a motherboard tray(this is HUGE IMO), lack of PSU options. The list goes on, but you get the idea. This is not opinion, this is engineering fact. More time was spent designing the A10 than the Rocketfish, more materials were spent, and easily more machine minutes.
Anyway, that said. There are a number of things that are lacking in every Lian Li case I've seen. I still love 'em and buy them exclusively, but I always find myself cutting them up with my dremel anyway.
1 & 2 - Economies of scale dictate that Lian Li built the RF with the same tooling etc as their other cases, it wouldn't make any sense to do otherwise, and if you look one over the build uses the same methods. It also wasn't all that cheap when it came out, it started getting noticed when it was slashed down for close out and got progessively cheaper until the final units were sold for around 50 bucks which was a huge steal.
As for #3, everything you've cited are FEATURES not BUILD QUALITY issues. No one ever claimed (that I've seen) that the RF had superior features or comparable features to a particular Lian unit, but I've seen Lians which had basically the same set of "features" as the RF without some of the extras the A10 in particular has. As an example the removable motherboard tray isn't nearly as important in the RF as it's quite a bit bigger than the A10, it has 6 5.25s vs the A10's 7 but it also has 2 3.5s, which is a matter of taste as much as anything. The chamber seperation is a nice feature the A10 has that the RF doesnt, and the modular PS mounting for 2 psus etc is nice. As for the HDD racks, from the reviews/pics I see the A10 has the same 3 drive cage with vibration isolation that the RF has 2 of and then it has a second cage that isn't isolated for 2 drives.
The semantics of "build quality" vs "features" I think is a lot of what caused the argument. You don't compare a base model of one car to the top model with all the options of another car and proclaim the fully optioned car has better build quality because it has better options, you compare two comparable models with the same features and make sure the features work the same. The RF doesn't have "top range" features like SOME lians do, but there are lower end Lians that were pretty comparable in features and build quality both.
For gods sake compare the riveting and the grade of alluminium in the images above. case closed
I thought the main difference between RF and LL is that LL uses aluminum while RF cases are steel?
I thought the main difference between RF and LL is that LL uses aluminum while RF cases are steel?
The RF is NOT bigger than the A10, they are the exact same size. The lack of separation, and the 7th 5.25 allows space for the two 3.5 bays. It's simply 'worse' use of the space available. THAT is a build quality issue.As for #3, everything you've cited are FEATURES not BUILD QUALITY issues. No one ever claimed (that I've seen) that the RF had superior features or comparable features to a particular Lian unit, but I've seen Lians which had basically the same set of "features" as the RF without some of the extras the A10 in particular has. As an example the removable motherboard tray isn't nearly as important in the RF as it's quite a bit bigger than the A10, it has 6 5.25s vs the A10's 7 but it also has 2 3.5s, which is a matter of taste as much as anything. The chamber seperation is a nice feature the A10 has that the RF doesnt, and the modular PS mounting for 2 psus etc is nice. As for the HDD racks, from the reviews/pics I see the A10 has the same 3 drive cage with vibration isolation that the RF has 2 of and then it has a second cage that isn't isolated for 2 drives.
The RF was being compared to the A10 by the RF owner, and other RF fanboys claiming it's the same as the Lian-Li comparable. Which you are absolutely correct - it is not. The A10 is like buying a Mclaren, and the RF is like buying a Toyota.The semantics of "build quality" vs "features" I think is a lot of what caused the argument. You don't compare a base model of one car to the top model with all the options of another car and proclaim the fully optioned car has better build quality because it has better options, you compare two comparable models with the same features and make sure the features work the same. The RF doesn't have "top range" features like SOME lians do, but there are lower end Lians that were pretty comparable in features and build quality both.
I think people are just pissed we got full tower LianLi cases for $48 and they had to spend $200+
Sure a few compromises were made in features... but are those features worth $150-200?
I think sir you need to check your vision and look at the label of the case, also make sure you check your invoice and/or receipt, and change your pathetic Lian Li Rocketfish signature because to my knowledge there are no "Lian Li Rocketfish" cases.
And like the person above posted, if you want to brag about Rocketfish... make your own thread and do so, because this is the LIAN LI gallery... NOT a Rocketfish gallery last time i checked/posted.
Thanks.
The RF is NOT bigger than the A10, they are the exact same size.
I think sir you need to check your vision and look at the label of the case, also make sure you check your invoice and/or receipt, and change your pathetic Lian Li Rocketfish signature because to my knowledge there are no "Lian Li Rocketfish" cases.
holy shit minor differences??!?!? omgwebforumragenublulzwtfbbqemogirlhahano!??!
I actually like the layout of the Rocketfish better.
Get over yourselves, it's a fucking Lian Li case, it's in the appropriate gallery...
For people like you, I'll post a link:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1299962
An official "Post Your RocketFish pics/mods" thread.
That thread is more suited for your pics and your case, because it's NOT a Lian Li
No hard feelings.