The Last of Us: Part II

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I definitely have faith in what they're doing with this series. They seem to have quite a bit of reverence for the source material at the very least.
I wish I felt the same way about ND's other franchise, Uncharted, though. I have a distinct feeling that movie is going to be a disaster in spite of the high-profile cast.
 

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Dunno about the show, but if ND is taking 18+ months after launch of Part 2 to put out multiplayer, I'm going to be severely disappointed if it's not coming with a full PS5 port for the main game as well, with more than a resolution bump to show for it too (added IQ like LoD, AF, RT, etc.).
 

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And the guy they hired to play Joel, his name is Pedro Pascal, great actor.

Pedro Pascal kicks ass, he should be a great choice for Joel. I'm a bit less convinced about Bella Ramsey doing Elle justice, but I'm going to keep an open mind about it.


Dunno about the show, but if ND is taking 18+ months after launch of Part 2 to put out multiplayer, I'm going to be severely disappointed if it's not coming with a full PS5 port for the main game as well, with more than a resolution bump to show for it too (added IQ like LoD, AF, RT, etc.).

I'm sure they are working on it, but I'm not sure I care. Sony charging $30 to upgrade Ghost of Tsushima really pisses me off. Most other companies are giving next gen boosts for free, and the "greedy" ones are asking $10 to close the gap between the $60 and $70 MSRP difference. Sony is bat shit fucking stupid trying to get me to drop $30 on a game I already paid $60 for a year ago, for a resolution bump and haptic feedback. You can be damn sure if/when TLOU 2 gets a proper PS5 port, it won't be free. The game already runs at 60 fps and looks insanely good on PS5, I'm not sure what more they could do that would warrant Sony's price to upgrade. I'm currently replaying it on PS5 and it looks absolutely bonkers at 60 fps. I'd honestly be quite happy with them just leaving it alone and working on the remake of the first one.
 

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TLOU 2 ps5 port will be a $10 upgrade most likely, ghost of tsushima upgrade comes with the iki island expansion.
 

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TLOU 2 ps5 port will be a $10 upgrade most likely, ghost of tsushima upgrade comes with the iki island expansion.
You have to buy the expansion pack for $20 first then pay the $10 to upgrade to PS5 version.
 

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TLOU 2 ps5 port will be a $10 upgrade most likely, ghost of tsushima upgrade comes with the iki island expansion.

I don't want the expansion. It's stupid that I am required to buy it to also get the next gen features. It's not an accident that the expansion and next gen upgrade are a combined purchase. It's anti consumer bullshit and I'm not buying into it.
 

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Well, the development to port it cost money. I'd rather they charge $10 and make it worthwhile, seems fair.
 

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Well, the development to port it cost money. I'd rather they charge $10 and make it worthwhile, seems fair.
MS is not charging. You buy a game and it works on the the Series x and xbone. Kike it been said most 3rd party games are not even charging for ps5 upgrades. Sony themselves getting a big head and think they can get away with it. MS is doing everything right this gen and I will not be surprised if Sony loses this gen in the end cause of their greedy. They are just repeating the the arrogance that cost them during the PS3 era.
 

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welp that's because MS is making so much money they can afford to do so.
Last time I checked, MS has like 130b cash while Sony has like 30b on hand.
 

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Well, the development to port it cost money. I'd rather they charge $10 and make it worthwhile, seems fair.

While that's true, it's not like a colossal amount of work is happening here. It's upping the resolution and framerate on esenntually a computer. The haptics take more time, sure, but it's still probbaly incredibly minimal cost. This should just be considered part of the cost of doing business.

I can't think of anyone outside of Sony and 2K that isn't doing it for free. If a pc game released an HD texture pack as a paid dlc, people would flip their shit. That's essentially what's happening here.
 

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welp that's because MS is making so much money they can afford to do so.
Last time I checked, MS has like 130b cash while Sony has like 30b on hand.
Very true. To me it seems like MS is burning so much money to win this generations.
 

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MS is doing everything right this gen and I will not be surprised if Sony loses this gen in the end cause of their greedy. They are just repeating the the arrogance that cost them during the PS3 era.
Except releasing games. Still no firstparty library to speak of. Lots, apparently, in development and lots of studio acquisitions but still no results.

PS5 still most sought after console. I have both, and Series X I haven't even opened because there's nothing to play.
 
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Sony won't lose. PS5 is already fastest selling console in history, despite pandemic shortages. They are doing fine.
 
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Except releasing games. Still no firstparty library to speak of. Lots, apparently, in development and lots of studio acquisitions but still no results.

PS5 still most sought after console, and not by accident.

I wonder if some of that has to do with their PC support as well. I've always been PC first, and I've always bought consoles soley for their respective first party titles. With Xbox, I no longer have to do that, and I doubt I'm alone. Same goes for the fact that they continue to support their previous gen consoles. For better or worse, they're selling less consoles because they're being more pro consumer and not trying to force people to upgrade.

Both of them will be fine. In the coming years, as MS starts to deliver on some of their recent acquisitions, I believe they'll take back much of the ground they've lost against Sony.
 

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While it seems like Sony is nickel and diming people, I don't know if it really matters. People are buying up PS5's in seconds nearly a full year after they launched. I don't know if $10 matters based on the cost of the system and games anyway. In sales there are sweet spots where people don't care about incremental fees. $10 is probably where Sony's math said they can charge. That's the cost of a fast food meal or domestic macro 6-pack...maybe. They might lose a few customers, but thousands of people are going to pay it. MS might get some additional sales from people who like what they're doing, but I don't see anyone jumping ship over it.
 

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Except releasing games. Still no firstparty library to speak of. Lots, apparently, in development and lots of studio acquisitions but still no results.

PS5 still most sought after console. I have both, and Series X I haven't even opened because there's nothing to play.
No doubt. To me with a 3080 i have no reason to own a Serise X.
 

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Sony can charge $10 on their exclusives and MS can't because they have no (comparable) exclusives. It's that simple. 3rd party publishers are mostly giving free upgrades on PS5 just as they are on Xbox. What I find more annoying are the PS5 upgrades locked behind special editions like Spiderman and Ghosts, forcing you to spend $30 or $70 respectively to upgrade a game that you already have on PS4.

I would bet that MS would be doing the same thing if they were the market leaders right now too with their own library of exclusives to sell their consoles. And they may still do once they start pumping out their own exclusives by all the studios they acquired in the next few years.

Also, last I heard on a recent podcast at least, they're apparently losing tons of money on Game Pass, which makes since given all the decent $60 day-one launch games they get on there and promos they hand out for it on top of that. If they can lose money on it for a couple more years while continuing to gain customers on it, then I'm sure it can pay off in the long run. But I'll bet they'll have to raise the price on it soon at least for it to stay sustainable, which they just did by $5/month on the PC side a couple weeks ago.
 
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Except releasing games. Still no firstparty library to speak of. Lots, apparently, in development and lots of studio acquisitions but still no results.

PS5 still most sought after console. I have both, and Series X I haven't even opened because there's nothing to play.
PS5 might be the most sought after but the Series X is completely unavailable over here, for the PS5 I get an update every so often to say we got some but you are still to far back on the list to get one, for Series X nothing, nada, zip, squat

At this rate MS is going to lose since they have nothing to sell.

Also at this point if you don't have a Series X let's say by the end of the year, you may as well wait for the mid gen upgrade.
 

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the Xbox is totally pointless if you already have a mid-to-high end PC...PS5 is worth it for the exclusives...
Exception will be Xbox Halo Edition - expect $1200-1500 on eBay just before Xmas.
 

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Exception will be Xbox Halo Edition - expect $1200-1500 on eBay just before Xmas.
Meh. I played the original halo for a bit when some friends had their consoles strung together. I thought it was mediocre at best, and the "multiplayer" was a joke. Quake 3 and Counterstrike had been out for years at that point. Never played another second, nor have i ever wanted too. I don't get the obsession. I think alot of people who never had PC's got addicted to it.
 

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Halo Infinite is coming out for PC though, so... 🤷‍♂️
Sure, but my point was only that the street price of a halo themed special edition console will be off the charts. The fact it'll be on PC isn't a factor.
 

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Sure, but my point was only that the street price of a halo themed special edition console will be off the charts. The fact it'll be on PC isn't a factor.
The comment you replied to was talking about Xbox having no exclusives, so it seemed like that was what you were referring to with Halo.
 

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I was excited for XSX when I thought it was fully back-compat with all XB games. But the list is super small, it's like a few dozen games and not even the good ones.

Really wanted to play some games I missed like Riddick, Black, Panzer Dragon, Jet Set Radio, etc. I would have totally bought an XSX if it had real back-compat.
 

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The comment you replied to was talking about Xbox having no exclusives, so it seemed like that was what you were referring to with Halo.
Yep. Halo is still a console exclusive for Xbox though, and something that Microsoft can take credit for as firstparty, even though it'll also be on PC. I realize its way off topic here.

Mostly my criticism of MS is "give me a reason to boot up my Xbox you sons of bitches"
 
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I was excited for XSX when I thought it was fully back-compat with all XB games. But the list is super small, it's like a few dozen games and not even the good ones.

Really wanted to play some games I missed like Riddick, Black, Panzer Dragon, Jet Set Radio, etc. I would have totally bought an XSX if it had real back-compat.
Black and Panzer Dragoon: Orta are backward compatible
 

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Anyone who hasn't played this game owes it to themself to snag it for $10. Especially if you have a PS5. 3 years later, it's still my favorite game from the last couple console generations.
 
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