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houkouonchi - all that is run out of one outlet on one circuit, including the laser printer?
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The [H]ard Forum Storage Showoff Thread - Post your 10TB+ systems
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houkouonchi
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It is. With all the machines running and the laser printer starting up its around 1700 watts. I typically only have around 450 watts of equipment running 24/7 though so there is plenty of power for that and the laser printer.
That 1000w usage was when I had everything running and that will just be about never (the two backup machines are only when making backups and even then likely both would not ever be running at once).
That 1000w usage was when I had everything running and that will just be about never (the two backup machines are only when making backups and even then likely both would not ever be running at once).
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Pic number 12 in your post
Looks just like my bathroom, except for the motherboard, car, and lava lamp.
Hi houkouonchi
I also wonder about the electric power issue as well. I give for example, I have a Liebert 2KVA UPS at work. In the user manual, it clearly states that at maximum, it can go up to 16Amp draw, which is greater than normal wall-socket and power cable max of 13Amp, therefore the potential need to have stronger power circuit delivery arrangement.
Your stated 1700watt maximum draw seems in the range of 2KVA UPS or more, therefore the issue above may apply as well. may I know how you address them?
I also wonder about the electric power issue as well. I give for example, I have a Liebert 2KVA UPS at work. In the user manual, it clearly states that at maximum, it can go up to 16Amp draw, which is greater than normal wall-socket and power cable max of 13Amp, therefore the potential need to have stronger power circuit delivery arrangement.
Your stated 1700watt maximum draw seems in the range of 2KVA UPS or more, therefore the issue above may apply as well. may I know how you address them?
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My wall sockets are 20amp, with 12 gauge wire, breakered at 20amps, 120v.
I have a 3KVA (120v input) APC at my house, but I ran a dedicated circuit to feed it.
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The wall socket is 15A and the circuit is 20A. I am in the Los Angeles area. I really so no issue with power as to even get anywhere near 15A I would have to have all the machines on and be printing something which is highly unlikely considering two of the more power hungry machines are almost never running.
I also don't have the two backup machines (that don't run much) on the UPS so I think 1500VA is probably enough for my uses.
I also don't have the two backup machines (that don't run much) on the UPS so I think 1500VA is probably enough for my uses.
Hey All,
One from Australia,
28TB
23.16TB Formatted
Thermaltake Armor+
Q9400
8Gb Ram
MSI P7N-Diamond
GTX260OC
1000W PSU
Highpoint 3520F
Highpoint 2340
8x WD Green 1.5TB
12x 1TB HDD's
2x 2TB HDD's
Windows Server 2008 R2 - Workstation Modded
Server is used to maintain and distribute media throughout the house.
there is no backup but everything is organised neatly and is easy to find with the folder structure.
This also doubles as my Lan rig, i frequently carry it to lan's to game with as well.
and SPACE:
I have 2x Fileservers that will soon be in the build,
they will be housed here
One from Australia,
28TB
23.16TB Formatted
Thermaltake Armor+
Q9400
8Gb Ram
MSI P7N-Diamond
GTX260OC
1000W PSU
Highpoint 3520F
Highpoint 2340
8x WD Green 1.5TB
12x 1TB HDD's
2x 2TB HDD's
Windows Server 2008 R2 - Workstation Modded
Server is used to maintain and distribute media throughout the house.
there is no backup but everything is organised neatly and is easy to find with the folder structure.
This also doubles as my Lan rig, i frequently carry it to lan's to game with as well.
and SPACE:
I have 2x Fileservers that will soon be in the build,
they will be housed here
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FILE/MEDIA Server:
CASE: Chenbro RM 414B
OS: Windows server 2008
HK: Supermicro X8SIA-F ,
CPU: Intel Xeon Quad-Core - X3460
Raid card: Areca ARC-1680IX-16
OS DISK WD Scorpio Black 160gb
RAM: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz ECC/Reg
PSU: Corsair HX750W
HDD: 10x Hitachi Deskstar 2 TB raid 6
CASE: NORCO 4220
HP SAS EXPANDER
10x WD1001FALS Raid 6
1000W PSU (lol overkill
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SOME HK AND CPU
CASE: Chenbro RM 414B
OS: Windows server 2008
HK: Supermicro X8SIA-F ,
CPU: Intel Xeon Quad-Core - X3460
Raid card: Areca ARC-1680IX-16
OS DISK WD Scorpio Black 160gb
RAM: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz ECC/Reg
PSU: Corsair HX750W
HDD: 10x Hitachi Deskstar 2 TB raid 6
CASE: NORCO 4220
HP SAS EXPANDER
10x WD1001FALS Raid 6
1000W PSU (lol overkill
)SOME HK AND CPU
houkouonchi
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You might wanna fix the disk order on that second volume set in raid set # 000. It can be really hard to recover if you ever have a problem with the order like it is.
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How would one go about doing that?
houkouonchi
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Well you see how your second volume set on Raid Set #000 you have disks from enclosure #3.
To get them in the right order you would want to re-arrange the disk so that under devices is in numerical order per your first volume set (enclosure 2).
Its possible there is just something weird going on with your enclosure as according to whats listed there you only have disks in:
Slots 5-8
Slots 13-16
Slots 21-22
That kind of seems odd to me to begin with
To get them in the right order you would want to re-arrange the disk so that under devices is in numerical order per your first volume set (enclosure 2).
Its possible there is just something weird going on with your enclosure as according to whats listed there you only have disks in:
Slots 5-8
Slots 13-16
Slots 21-22
That kind of seems odd to me to begin with
It takes abit on mine due to the staggered Spinup, but generally that is nt long at all, do you have the latest firmware?
Hard drives in case:
6x2TB
5x1.5TB
and a 160GB x-25m g2
Pics of pc innards:
http://i.imgur.com/jlIk3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uIm6u.jpg
6x2TB are in raid 5: http://i.imgur.com/pgk2Q.png
Everything else is backed up externally.
Windows:
http://i.imgur.com/D1cJy.png
19.5TB raw, ~16TB actually available.
6x2TB
5x1.5TB
and a 160GB x-25m g2
Pics of pc innards:
http://i.imgur.com/jlIk3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uIm6u.jpg
6x2TB are in raid 5: http://i.imgur.com/pgk2Q.png
Everything else is backed up externally.
Windows:
http://i.imgur.com/D1cJy.png
19.5TB raw, ~16TB actually available.
With the incoming cases, I'll have 81U of equipment (that only includes 2U of networking gear and no patch panels). I just don't have room for a bigger one or another one. Not to mention I'm out of power. I trip my 20A breaker if I have everything on in just the 22U rack (and the stuff on top).
Oh Blue Fox... why doth thou mock us with your insanely large storage? lol... This is all at your house? what in the sam hill is your power bill and what on earth do you do for work? Oh.. and how freaking hot does it get in these server rooms/areas?
Sorry I'm a tease...I just like to share.
Yes, this is all in my house. Power bill last month was a bit under $600 I think. Until recently I was actually unemployed for a bit. Believe it or not, I'm a 22 year old university student (almost done with my BSEE and soon MSEE) and pay for all of my toys and tuition out of my own pocket (no loans or debt). Currently I'm the head of the VoIP division of a local ISP (or if you like fancy titles, "Director of VoIP Provisioning"). Pay isn't as great as you might expect though (other benefits keep me around however). As for heat, I have a 10000 BTU AC unit running full blast 24/7 to keep the room around 72-73F (and the central AC which helps too).treadstone
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So BlueFox, when you say this is a 'project for someone'? Is that someone you or a friend or client?
Why did you buy all those drives in the retail package? Did you get a better deal on those than the oem drives?
Why did you buy all those drives in the retail package? Did you get a better deal on those than the oem drives?
Sorry I'm a tease...I just like to share.
I was always curious on power bill for running a full rack of crap.
Unfortunately, I have no idea what I would do with 200+ TB unless I did some heavy video decoding or rented large amounts of storage through a web service.
Nice stuff
You seem to like buying the drives in retail packaging. Are you running a web-site selling SATA cables and Molex-SATA power adapters on the side?
Client if you want to call it that. It is actually going to someone on this forum, but I'm not disclosing who it is unless they want that to be known. As for the retail drives, I did in fact get a better deal than OEM. Fry's had them on sale for $105 each until yesterday. The last time I bought 20+ of the Hitachi 2TB drives, I got them as OEM as it was cheaper that way at the time. I don't really have a preference either way (though it is very convenient to swap out DOA drives if you buy them locally).
My house has crappy insulation to be honest and Texas gets really hot, so the rack isn't so much to blame for the high cost. It only costs ~$80 a month to run 1kW of equipment.
...yeah, you have no idea how many SATA cables and adapters I have laying around. These Hitachis actually do not come with either however.You seem to like buying the drives in retail packaging. Are you running a web-site selling SATA cables and Molex-SATA power adapters on the side?
Some more stuff made it in. Almost done. I have more than 250 hot-swap bays now if you count the SANs (and more on the way too). I need a full rack...or two.
excuse my language but WHOLY FUCKADOODLE!, i'm so glad i don't pay your hydro bill, or sit in the noisy room for that matter LOL
WOW that's some sexy stuff tho, i could only dream of that.
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Hey All,
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How can a power supply c/w that many SATA power port?
And how can a power supply be able to supply that much electricity?
The PSU is actually a hybrid of two PSU's.
The casing is from an iCute 1000W Supply and the internals are from a Vantec 1000W PSU.
I used the casing for it has 6x Male molex ports on it and 2x sata ports (it is Modular).
The Cables i made byself, running 5 Drives off each molex Plug and using Sata connectors with vampire teeth in them.
I DID have the system running off a 600W Zalman PSU but that was having issues, system would not cold boot, HDD's would drop offline, so i moved to the PSU i put together.
No More Warranty but hey! it works!
The casing is from an iCute 1000W Supply and the internals are from a Vantec 1000W PSU.
I used the casing for it has 6x Male molex ports on it and 2x sata ports (it is Modular).
The Cables i made byself, running 5 Drives off each molex Plug and using Sata connectors with vampire teeth in them.
I DID have the system running off a 600W Zalman PSU but that was having issues, system would not cold boot, HDD's would drop offline, so i moved to the PSU i put together.
No More Warranty but hey! it works!
treadstone
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The SATA Power connectors you are referring to have IDC pins which stands for 'Insulation Displacement Contact', but I like the way you described them (vampire teeth)
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Some more stuff made it in. Almost done. I have more than 250 hot-swap bays now if you count the SANs (and more on the way too). I need a full rack...or two.
wow
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Some more stuff made it in. Almost done. I have more than 250 hot-swap bays now if you count the SANs (and more on the way too). I need a full rack...or two.
Holy crap! What do you store on all that? I'm sure a lot of 1280p porn, but other then that, what else?
And I thought my 1.8TB array was big. I have room for 4 more drives so I will probably put 4 hitachi 2TB drives... once I can afford it. I see that money thing is not an issue for some people here.
Mostly media. Lots of other things though. The stuff I haven't isn't as valuable or expensive as it may seem. Know much about the RSA appliance? I have a couple questions for you if you do.Holy crap! What do you store on all that? I'm sure a lot of 1280p porn, but other then that, what else?
And I thought my 1.8TB array was big. I have room for 4 more drives so I will probably put 4 hitachi 2TB drives... once I can afford it. I see that money thing is not an issue for some people here.
Yes, it is 22U. New they're overpriced (see ~$1000), but used can be had for a hundred or two. I paid $175 for mine. The blue units are Antec cases (link), so nothing OEM or unusual. The units with rotary dials are both network appliances. The top one is an RSA SecurID appliance (more info). The lower one is an appliance running Microsoft ISA server (more info). The rotary dial lets you change some settings without remotely logging in or before the OS boots.
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I've used those Celestix MSA's before - not too bad. We never used the ISA server on them, we just used them as a cheap box for running WebSense in branch offices.
I'm quite fond of them. Hardware is pretty decent and I got mine at a good price. Probably my favourite 1U appliance right now. LCD and dial just make it shinier too.
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We have one at work that I help manage. We have Radius profiles but other then that it's a standard VPN setup. I don't know much about the ASA side as we unfortunately do not manage that part.
Our tokens will expire in a year and they're not even deployed yet. Stupid IT manager putting red tape on everything makes things hard.
I'm actually thinking of getting an RSA for my game server, but it would be a no return investment. How much do those go for anyway, I'm assuming a couple grand? I know the tokens are like 80 bucks each so it's quite expensive.
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