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The Droid X
- Thread starter Imbroglio
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For those interested in the device, I would keep an eye on this thread over at Anandtech. Seems like a VZW employee who has one for testing purposes has started fielding questions from posters.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2081881&page=5
He confirms that it's running a modified version of Motoblur, that sounds like it could be disabled to some extent.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2081881&page=5
He confirms that it's running a modified version of Motoblur, that sounds like it could be disabled to some extent.
Because (especially with 2.1 and soon to be 2.2) these skins in general don't do anything to enhance the experience -- they hinder it, and make non-root users wait even longer for updates (as motorola has to rework their skin for the new release). Motoblur in particular so far has been bloody awful. Even if this version is "better" it's still completely unnecessary.
For me, even if I were OK with the huge screen, I would wait until this phone is rooted so I could run stock or modded ROMs.
Well you can upgrade annually and extend your contract by 2 years. The 2 year wait is the NE2 which is really 20 months
With the Evo, I'm pretty sure you can turn off Sense with just a few menu clicks....this to me, is the best overall approach.
You know what else is part of the user experience that I find important?
Being able to use my phone to do the things I want it to do...the way I want it to do them, rather than being constricted to the way Steve Jobs thinks I need to use my devices. As far as apps go, I've never had a problem finding a decent app on the google market in order to do what I want it to do.
My Droid (original) feels absolutely fine in terms of performance, I have no complaints in that area.
It's nothing a little rooting can't fix.
The thing I wonder about is that I've been seeing screenshots of the Droid 2 and Droid X that have that little Android widget that offers tips on using your phone...as far as I know, that's an Android 2.2 feature, but these phones are all supposed to be 2.1. Maybe they backported it?
It will be a while before I go back to a Droid. I had an Eris for 2 weeks and it was a nightmare. Locking up, memory leaks, etc. After a week it developed a "left scroll" issue. Where when id try to do anything it would scroll all the way to the left. ah well.. <3 my bberry. This phone does look nice though ^_^
That's why I wouldn't touch this phone until it was rooted with decent roms available. The tip widget thing may just be part of motoblur.
So you criticize Jobs for a controlling app market (which I agree with you on) and then say rooting is no big deal to fix a large UI problem? Guess what, jailbreaking is just as easy as rooting and lets you install anything you want on iphone. So instead of ranting about Jobs telling you what you can and cannot install, if you were actually unbiased you would say 'nothing a little jailbreaking can't fix.' But of course, you're far from unbiased.
You're comparing rooting a phone to remove a UI skin to jailbreaking a phone just so you can use it the way you want to...and then you call ME biased?
It may be seriously premature to call this new version of Motoblur a "large UI problem," after all.
Jailbreaking, unless something's changed, doesn't correct one of the iPhone OS's worst traits: reliance on the god-awful iTunes program.
I just reread the thread trying to figure out how this turned into an Android vs iPhone thread.
@kre62, go away troll. All was well comparing likes and dislikes about the MotoX until you arrived on the scene.
@obs, fair rebuttal, although the quote you used was the wrong quote. Lol. Let's forget it was the troll who caused the comment in the first place.
Can we get back on topic?
@kre62, go away troll. All was well comparing likes and dislikes about the MotoX until you arrived on the scene.
@obs, fair rebuttal, although the quote you used was the wrong quote. Lol. Let's forget it was the troll who caused the comment in the first place.
Can we get back on topic?
I just reread the thread trying to figure out how this turned into an Android vs iPhone thread.
@kre62, go away troll. All was well comparing likes and dislikes about the MotoX until you arrived on the scene.
@obs, fair rebuttal, although the quote you used was the wrong quote. Lol. Let's forget it was the troll who caused the comment in the first place.
Can we get back on topic?
fair enough
I just reread the thread trying to figure out how this turned into an Android vs iPhone thread.
@kre62, go away troll. All was well comparing likes and dislikes about the MotoX until you arrived on the scene.
@obs, fair rebuttal, although the quote you used was the wrong quote. Lol. Let's forget it was the troll who caused the comment in the first place.
Can we get back on topic?
Thats cool man call me a troll. You're basically admitting I'm right, thats fine with me. Cause I am.
Nice looking phone, but Christ is it big. I anticipate several more months of screen size one-upmanship until high-end Android phones reach iPad-level proportions.
Should be interesting to see where the market goes with this kind of stuff and at what point consumers are going to draw the line on how big is too big.
Should be interesting to see where the market goes with this kind of stuff and at what point consumers are going to draw the line on how big is too big.
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I'm of the opinion that 4 inches is big enough.
Agreed. Anyone see the Dell Streak that's due to hit soon? I think its 5" screen may be too large.
Is that what you tell the ladies?
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Wow, that's not juvenile at all.
Since I can't use sprint in my area and need to return my Evo, I'm considering this phone, going back to the iPhone, or waiting for ATT's version of the Samsung Galaxy (Captivate?) As of right now I'm leaning towards the last option. Hard to really decide though. I think if this Driod X's screen actually took up more of the phone, especially towards the bottom and didn't have the shiny part around, I would go more for the X. Bezels are my pet peeve...the larger the bezel, the worse/cheaper things look.
Check out these benches of the ipad, using the same A4 processor. Id say go iphone 4.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3710/...e-review-clearly-better-than-the-nexus-one/10
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But it was really, really funny.
Kinda looking forward to seeing this. Was planning on getting a Droid when my contract is up in October but I'm not sure I like the HW keyboard on it (I like HW keyboards in general, but the flat keys makes it almost as hard as a virtual one to use). I'm looking forward to seeing what the Droid 2 brings, and whether or not either of these phones will be super expensive.
I wish HTC would bring the EVO to Verizon. I'd take an HTC Device and UI over a Moto one any day.
I also wish these bigger "tabletesque" phones had hardware keyboards. Can't replace typematic response with a touchscreen. My Touch Pro2 has the best hardware keyboard I've used and seen to date. Would be awesome to have that on this DroidX or an Evo or the Streak, etc...
Some people don't "get" the reasons for a h/w keyboard. A big one is, when you're using the keyboard you have your WHOLE screen available for whatever. Not 50% of it gone from a silly onscreen keyboard. It also means you don't have to have your fingers on the screen covering what you're trying to read/watch. Also gives you the option to tilt like on a TP2 for convenient media viewing. Also gives you more hardware buttons, to assign shortcuts too etc something that I dislike that most phones are removing.. my 6800 / titan was awesome with a scroll wheel, d-pad,and many hardware buttons. I really miss them on my TP2 and newer phones have even less for buttons...
I also wish these bigger "tabletesque" phones had hardware keyboards. Can't replace typematic response with a touchscreen. My Touch Pro2 has the best hardware keyboard I've used and seen to date. Would be awesome to have that on this DroidX or an Evo or the Streak, etc...
Some people don't "get" the reasons for a h/w keyboard. A big one is, when you're using the keyboard you have your WHOLE screen available for whatever. Not 50% of it gone from a silly onscreen keyboard. It also means you don't have to have your fingers on the screen covering what you're trying to read/watch. Also gives you the option to tilt like on a TP2 for convenient media viewing. Also gives you more hardware buttons, to assign shortcuts too etc something that I dislike that most phones are removing.. my 6800 / titan was awesome with a scroll wheel, d-pad,and many hardware buttons. I really miss them on my TP2 and newer phones have even less for buttons...
All that processing speed, and it's still limited by Apple's shitty closed-in mobile OS.
Let's see what the numbers say when Android 2.2 begins becoming prevalent amongst Snapdragon-equipped Android phones, shall we?
The hardware's only part of the question. If you're considering switching networks, do you REALLY want to go over to AT&T?
All that processing speed, and it's still limited by Apple's shitty closed-in mobile OS.
Let's see what the numbers say when Android 2.2 begins becoming prevalent amongst Snapdragon-equipped Android phones, shall we?
So what is it exactly that you want to do that this so called "closed os" is stopping you from doing? I guarantee that 99.5% of anything you can name can be done by an oficial app store app. Anything that doesnt can be had on a jailbroken iphone. The closed system allowed apples os to run smoother mhz to mhz then android phones due to hardware graphics rendering. Any restrictions were placed to make sure the phone was a good user experience with excellent battery life. And Jobs was right, these open android phones are battery suckers from hell.
Why not have it all? A smooth as liquid UI, and the best apps, plus the ability to go "open garden" if needed?
My Droid's battery life has never given me problems. Period.
It's not just about the practical effects of iPhone OS's overzealous control. It's also about not wanting to support the most evil, monopolistic big IT company out there: Apple. iPhone OS's walled garden approach is not the disease, it's a symptom of the disease.
Even if Android WAS inferior, I'd gladly put up with it simply for the fact that I know I'm not supporting the worst company in the business.
Apple restricting features has nothing to do with "good user experience." It has nothing to do with "battery life." It has everything to do with making sure you have a reason to fork over more money next year for the next greatest version of your stupid little crApple devicee.
I hear things like MMS and copy-pasting are huge battery killers.
And when hackers had multi-tasking working passably on the iPhone OS for a couple years, Apple's excuses about that start to ring hollow too.My Droid's battery life has never given me problems. Period.
It's not just about the practical effects of iPhone OS's overzealous control. It's also about not wanting to support the most evil, monopolistic big IT company out there: Apple. iPhone OS's walled garden approach is not the disease, it's a symptom of the disease.
Even if Android WAS inferior, I'd gladly put up with it simply for the fact that I know I'm not supporting the worst company in the business.
Apple restricting features has nothing to do with "good user experience." It has nothing to do with "battery life." It has everything to do with making sure you have a reason to fork over more money next year for the next greatest version of your stupid little crApple devicee.
I hear things like MMS and copy-pasting are huge battery killers.
Yeah, well seems like theres some deep rooted anger there, so its good youre on the Android.
One thing though, is the money I've spent on hardware. That concept doesn't exist. Ive made money owning this phone. I bought the 3G for 199, sold it for 350 the following year and picked up the new 3GS for 199. So I was at 50 dollars total cost for hardware. Now I sold my 3GS for 300 and am picking up the iPhone 4 for 199. Now I've made 50 bucks. I guess I have at&t to thank for continually bumping my upgrade date.
Way to not understand how subsidizing works. If you're stupid enough to think you only spent $199 on owning a phone, I don't know what to tell you.
I mean, I could point out the sales out there where people have bought Droids for $20, but whatever.
I know how it works dude but I'm paying for cell service anyway. My point was that Im not shelling out more cash for hardware each year. Yeah Im paying for it in the end with the contract, but thats true on any carrier.
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The droid x looks pretty awesome. Coming from a Tour, it just might be my next vzw phone.
Is anyone else bothered/miffed by the narrow screens they keep using on the DROID series? The 3.5" iphone is much more comfortable to read in portrait than the original DROID. And if you compare the pictures of the DROID X up top, the 4.3" screen is only "slightly" wider than the 3.5" iphone. Whereas the Evo's quite a bit wider than the DROID X.
I LOVE to portrait browse and see very little benefit to making such a tall and narrow screen. You guys see this right? Just put up a piece of measuring tape to your screen and you'll see. (using a TV makes this easier)
The other thing I'm glad engadget mentioned was the sensitivity/smoothness/accuracy of the touch sensor. The original DROID never felt very responsive to me. Definitely 2nd class and subpar to the iPhone's sensor. Fast forward to the DROID Incredible which has an even better sensor than the iPhone. IMO, the Incredible's sensor was near perfect and a big step up from the fruit phone. It also finally had a decently wide screen.
I actually took the Incredible back when I heard about the bigger screen on the Moto. I figured hell, if I can get rid of this crap OLED screen and it's bright pink hues on low brightness and replace it w/ a non plasticky phone that might survive a drop or fourteen...
I LOVE to portrait browse and see very little benefit to making such a tall and narrow screen. You guys see this right? Just put up a piece of measuring tape to your screen and you'll see. (using a TV makes this easier)
The other thing I'm glad engadget mentioned was the sensitivity/smoothness/accuracy of the touch sensor. The original DROID never felt very responsive to me. Definitely 2nd class and subpar to the iPhone's sensor. Fast forward to the DROID Incredible which has an even better sensor than the iPhone. IMO, the Incredible's sensor was near perfect and a big step up from the fruit phone. It also finally had a decently wide screen.
I actually took the Incredible back when I heard about the bigger screen on the Moto. I figured hell, if I can get rid of this crap OLED screen and it's bright pink hues on low brightness and replace it w/ a non plasticky phone that might survive a drop or fourteen...