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TechNet changes

They nerfed MSDN too. Now it's all but worthless compressed to a technet sub.

With the joke that is windows 8 and this I can see MS dying a slow death in a few years. Office 2010 blows chunks. They still have a bug in excell that I've had a ticket open for over a year and a half. I can crash 2010 every time. 2007 works great.

Who upgrades when the old software is better? What enterprise bothers training staff for useless UI or whatever when MS changes it on a whim or let's a preschool design it? They are pissing off thier core business and like google are out trying to be the next Facebook or apple. It'll be the death of them both.
 
i use technet for work - and I asked our MS tam "Hey I had 10 keys but in three years I only used 4, now it is cut to three - and of the three I can only use" how do I get these keys reset?"

Hey has been checking but never got me an answer.

I have probably built and rebuilt 50 test workstations - so I asked him "I have resubbed how do I get my keys reset or do I let it expire, buy a new one to get new keys?"
 
groebuck said:
i use technet for work - and I asked our MS tam "Hey I had 10 keys but in three years I only used 4, now it is cut to three - and of the three I can only use" how do I get these keys reset?"

Hey has been checking but never got me an answer.

I have probably built and rebuilt 50 test workstations - so I asked him "I have resubbed how do I get my keys reset or do I let it expire, buy a new one to get new keys?"
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I have a similar issue - I've used all of my office keys on virtual test machines and can no longer activate.

I haven't called them to ask how the hell that works... and.. I just re-upped my sub last week.
 
DriZzLe said:
So does that mean all three of my pc's running Windows 7 from my old technet subscription all of a sudden be invalid?
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I read on ZDnet that the expiration will only apply to renewed and new subscriptions. i.e, existing keys will not expire.
 
Doesnt look like they deactivate them

While it is technically still possible to continue using the products after a subscription has expired, it is now explicitly prohibited to do so.

Existing keys will not be affected by the change, which means that MSDN subscribers who use more than five or three keys respectively can continue to use those after the terms change
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Looks like I won't be renewing next time around. MS has effectively removed the value from Technet. A year of use for the subscription rate just isn't worth it.
 
If you don't find $200/yr value in technet because they reduced the number of windows keys from 5 to 3, you're doing it wrong.
 
-Dragon- said:
If you don't find $200/yr value in technet because they reduced the number of windows keys from 5 to 3, you're doing it wrong.
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MS has changed it so that when your subscription expires, so does the license to use the software you downloaded. That is what people are complaining about.
 
No it's the fact that they now expire when you no longer renew. This is now a useless program.

People are going to be on 7 for a long long loooooong time...
 
Omegas said:
No it's the fact that they now expire when you no longer renew. This is now a useless program.

People are going to be on 7 for a long long loooooong time...
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Meh. The program is supposed to be used by tech pros for testing. I think MS knows a decent number of people (like myself) just want TechNet subs so they don't have to continue buying extra copies of Windows/Office every few years. We've been using our TechNet subscription improperly for years now, and MS just doesn't care.

Assuming it doesn't deactivate the software you're using, I think this is largely going to be the same. It is just another way for MS to have legal grounds if they have to take action against a group/individual selling keys to their software.
 
I see it as paying for itself just by using the Windows Server editions alone for research or home use. If MS continues to slash features & privileges, I may dump it in the future though.
 
leezard said:
MS has changed it so that when your subscription expires, so does the license to use the software you downloaded. That is what people are complaining about.
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Correct, these are the people who are doing it wrong and these are the reason these changes are happening, Technet isn't supposed to be "buy a one year subscription get a bunch of free OS keys for friends and family for as long as you want".

Honestly I wish they'd go down to 1 or 2 "retail" keys and make some sort of "Technet Activation Server" available that would let you activate 10 or even unlimited activations of whatever you had access to for as long as you had an active technet license. Then people who actually used TN to test and learn MS products in a lab environment would be pretty much completely unaffected (and could use a few retail keys to test clients that can't be on the lab network), and much less useful to people who "test" deploying individual retail licenses to themselves, friends, or others willing to pony up a few bucks
 
-Dragon- said:
Correct, these are the people who are doing it wrong and these are the reason these changes are happening, Technet isn't supposed to be "buy a one year subscription get a bunch of free OS keys for friends and family for as long as you want".
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True, but some of us are running boxes for long-term stability testing, not just single-image, X-month rotation. So when I have a sample box running the same environment as all of the individual computers at work, i want it to have the same updates applied, in order, as the other machines at work. This hampers that kind of testing.
 
-Dragon- said:
Correct, these are the people who are doing it wrong and these are the reason these changes are happening, Technet isn't supposed to be "buy a one year subscription get a bunch of free OS keys for friends and family for as long as you want".

Honestly I wish they'd go down to 1 or 2 "retail" keys and make some sort of "Technet Activation Server" available that would let you activate 10 or even unlimited activations of whatever you had access to for as long as you had an active technet license. Then people who actually used TN to test and learn MS products in a lab environment would be pretty much completely unaffected (and could use a few retail keys to test clients that can't be on the lab network), and much less useful to people who "test" deploying individual retail licenses to themselves, friends, or others willing to pony up a few bucks
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I hear ya, I dont have a technet sub myself. MS has been pretty good to me as far as software goes. I havent had to buy an new OS or Office suite since Vista came out. (and all of the PCs and laptops in the house are fully legit) Launch events and other promotions with incentives kept me covered.
 
In regards to piracy, I can sorta see where they're coming from but there has to be a better answer than killing the entire program.

I can't help but wonder how serious a problem Technet and MSDN piracy really is. I assume MS knows.
 
ebay exploded with technet keys when win7 came out, it was REALLY bad.

Looks like MS is trying to remove a lot of temptation to use TN for win8 at least, $40 for upgrade from XP-7 seems to work out to 5 unlimited time keys for $200.
 
Funny, all they need to do to remove the temptation for Win8 is to just let people use it...
 
I have been on the fence about renewing this and now this pretty much puts the nail in the coffin.

I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the subscription in perputuity angle. If you get something here whether you are a professional or not, they have you hooked year after year if you want to run the software acquired under the program. They are pretty much retailing the setup. MS has been trying to get other subscription based models off the ground unsuccessfully so maybe this is their first expirament?
 
-Dragon- said:
If you don't find $200/yr value in technet because they reduced the number of windows keys from 5 to 3, you're doing it wrong.
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I can buy ultimate and 2010 pro plus licenses for $10 each outright through journeyed. No point in technet anymore. MSDN is nice to get it all but it's being nerfed too.
 
Aseras said:
I can buy ultimate and 2010 pro plus licenses for $10 each outright through journeyed. No point in technet anymore. MSDN is nice to get it all but it's being nerfed too.
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Could you please elaborate? My wife is a teacher and I am a student but I never really knew where good places to get the deals were.
 
-Dragon- said:
ebay exploded with technet keys when win7 came out, it was REALLY bad.

Looks like MS is trying to remove a lot of temptation to use TN for win8 at least, $40 for upgrade from XP-7 seems to work out to 5 unlimited time keys for $200.
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That wasn't from technet, it was from some sort of MSDN program for startups. It didn't cost anything and was extremely easy to get accounts. So basically someone could get hundreds of legit keys for free.
 
I'm probably disappointed the most with them taking out a bunch of software. Especially the individual Office products. Also you can still use the software after your sub expires, obviously it would go against the licensing terms but they aren't going to be killing the license/key so that it can never be used again, AFAIK. Man I'm really bummed about the removal of a whole bunch of software.
 
Kenworth said:
Could you please elaborate? My wife is a teacher and I am a student but I never really knew where good places to get the deals were.
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Journey Ed has never been that cheap for me, but my school was apart of MSDNAA and we got them for $10. Basically, it paid for them to ship the media to us. We would get it for free if we just wanted to check the media out at the school library.
 
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