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Starcraft II

pigwalk said:
Fuck Diamond and Plat, I have way more fun dicking around in 3v3 and 4v4 than taking 1v1 or 2v2 seriously :)

I was ECSTATIC when I was demoted from 4v4 Plat down to Gold!!!
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Fuck gold and silver team games, I have way more fun taking 1v1 diamond matches seriously than dicking around in 3v3 or 4v4. :)

I was ECSTATIC when I was promoted from 1v1 Plat to Diamond!!!

;)
 
petertew said:
Why are diamond level players such whiners when they lose?
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It is likely a factor that higher ranked players tend to play more "competitively" and take the game more seriously.

Here is a puzzling question. Why do people turtle/defend only around there own base in random team games that are on maps with shared bases?
 
Wendig0 said:
^^^ lulz!

Yeah I scoutz like m4dz. d00dz.
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Scouting is what causes wins and I think scouting really early is going to become more and more common. For instance Terran scouting on 9 may become more popular after today.

TLO lost earlier today to cheese because he didn't scout early enough. TLO totally out played his opponent (the nuke play in the first game was crazy) but even players of his caliber lose to cheese and in this game anything goes.
 
Vermillion said:
Scouting is what causes wins and I think scouting really early is going to become more and more common. For instance Terran scouting on 9 may become more popular after today.

TLO lost earlier today to cheese because he didn't scout early enough. TLO totally out played his opponent (the nuke play in the first game was crazy) but even players of his caliber lose to cheese and in this game anything goes.
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I hate to hear TLO lost to cheese, but at the same time feel better about myself. I've lost to proxy 2-gate BS more than I care to admit.
 
Scouting can only do so much, no idea what dimanga would've done against TLO when he placed that Thor along with marines on the ledge of dimanga's natural expo on LT
 
Sixthsense said:
Scouting can only do so much, no idea what dimanga would've done against TLO when he placed that Thor along with marines on the ledge of dimanga's natural expo on LT
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Easy, see a fast factory/armory means don't build the expansion.
 
But TLO checked if he went for an early expo. Surely you're not to tech to armory if it's not needed


Regardless if dimanga expoed or not what would be the unit counter against TLO? Obviously not mutas, too little too late especially against a Thor on a unaccessible ledge with a Mule repairing.


For laughs he could've taken his natural if he didn't expo and convert the ccc to planetary fortress.
 
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Sixthsense said:
But TLO checked if he went for an early expo. Surely you're not to tech to armory if it's not needed


Regardless if dimanga expoed or not what would be the unit counter against TLO? Obviously not mutas, too little too late especially against a Thor on a unaccessible ledge with a Mule repairing.


For laughs he could've taken his natural if he didn't expo and convert the ccc to planetary fortress.
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No, if he didn't have the expansion there wouldn't have been a ledge and a zergling surround (300 minerals work because of no natural) would have been enough. Not saying it's easy and hindsight is always 20/20.
 
Ahh you're correct, I still think it's an uphill battle. Kind of upset how quickly that game ended. Baneling bust and hope for the best?
 
im looking for a serious 2v2 partner. I am 2v2 random platinum rank 7 and want someone to play with. I want to get into diamond with arranged team. anyone up to it?
 
Did in-game voice chat stop working for anyone? It was working fine a few days ago and now it doesn't work at all. I see my voice indicator light up and move when I speak but nobody hears me. When other people speak I get no indicator or sound.

Had alot of trouble today playing with my slow typing friend...
 
What's this planetary fortress thing I'm seeing in blizz forum that's so overpowered?
 
petertew said:
Why are diamond level players such whiners when they lose?
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they stop playing for fun and only have fun when they win

Deluded said:
What's this planetary fortress thing I'm seeing in blizz forum that's so overpowered?
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in SC 1, the AI was programmed to attack the closest enemy building/unit. in SC 2, Blizzard programmed AI to prioritize certain things when attacking. Planetary Fortress happens to be #1 priority to be attacked. this forces the player attacking a planetary fortress to devote a huge amount of micro to kill off the SCVs repairing the fortress because every time a player's units kill a SCV his units go back to attacking the fortress. so the the fortress is basically a tank with a massive HP pool that is constantly getting healed by tons of SCVs.
 
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I'm in Diamond, I never complain when I lose, and I never cheese. You just ran into some stupid children on the internet, it's going to happen in spite of league. Not to mention it happens on all online games, I'd just let it go.
 
Hey guys, just played my first placement match on SEA SC2. I know I appear to be totally noobish in this game, but please bear with me. Any advice you guys could give me to improve my gameplay is appreciated.

I originally planned to tank the game, and leave so I could start at bronze and slowly learn my way, but alas, things don't go my way.

I'm Inarius (zerg) in this game.

Here is the replay file:

http://depositfiles.com/files/3bxrv7u0q

It's a 26kb file.
 
Well the Terran is the one that needed advice, which is not to drop his units on top of a bunch of roaches lol. I guess one general thing to keep in mind as Zerg is to spread creep quickly and fast expand.
 
Man...I'm not going to not play for a week ever again. So sloppy this morning. Glad I didn't ladder and only played a few custom games. Lost two to Zerg (yep I still suck against them) and then had a guy in a TvP that was doing mass Blink Stalker. He eventually got pissed and left after saying "I'm not wasting anymore time in this game" because I just started cranking out mass Banshees with MM support and two Ravens.

Honestly I was playing so piss poorly had he actually bothered to tech up to something like HT and stormed me I would have died.
 
Vermillion said:
Man...I'm not going to not play for a week ever again. So sloppy this morning. Glad I didn't ladder and only played a few custom games. Lost two to Zerg (yep I still suck against them) and then had a guy in a TvP that was doing mass Blink Stalker. He eventually got pissed and left after saying "I'm not wasting anymore time in this game" because I just started cranking out mass Banshees with MM support and two Ravens.

Honestly I was playing so piss poorly had he actually bothered to tech up to something like HT and stormed me I would have died.
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Banshee Raven has been giving me some fits lately. The GD point defense drone rages. What do you find as terran gives you trouble from a protoss player when you go for that build? Just templar?
 
petertew said:
Banshee Raven has been giving me some fits lately. The GD point defense drone rages. What do you find as terran gives you trouble from a protoss player when you go for that build? Just templar?
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The build I use for TvP (This is my best match up) is pretty solid (when I don't screw it up) so there isn't much that worries me. Not Void Rays, not 4-gate, not 3gate-robo, not HT. I can transition into anything fairly easily. So if my initial harass and follow up Marine/Banshee/Raven push doesn't cause the win due to something like HT I just pop ghosts and push with an MMG/Raven/Banshee army.

Build gives me a very quick and simple transition into BC's as well although not sure they'll be worth the cost anymore. Time will tell I guess.

The only P build that I could see giving me some trouble because I haven't seen it but once or twice is a FE build. However, I do have ideas for countering an FE because the FE doesn't pay off right away and Protoss needs expensive structures up in order to beat back certain army makeups. If I don't see certain structures then I send my build in a different direction in order to play on the weakness I see.
 
TheResidentEvil said:
im looking for a serious 2v2 partner. I am 2v2 random platinum rank 7 and want someone to play with. I want to get into diamond with arranged team. anyone up to it?
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Maybe... I Like 2v2, (haven't even bothered with 1v1) but I usually end up playing random partner since I usually take a few days off then play a bunch for 1-2 days. I've had a couple times where I got a bunch of good games with a partner / team, took some time off and he didn't remember me when I msg'd him next time, lol.

I am Plat in 2v2 random partners and I think we could do well some better pre-arranged strats, coordinated scouting&counters. PM me if you're fine with my play frequency (I have no problem if you're not available when I can/do play.)
 
Sorry, I know I asked this earlier, but it was glossed over/ignored in lieu of more interesting SC conversation...

Did anyone else just recently lose voice chat? It worked fine I think up until this weekend. Suddenly nobody can hear me and I can't hear anyone else. I don't think it was the patch since the day before it didn't work either.

I didn't change any setting in game or to my router so I'm kinda at a loss as to why that would happen unless Blizzard changed something and I didn't notice. I couldn't really find anything like this on the main SC2 forums either besides the standard "open your ports" bit.
 
Yoshiyuki Blade said:
Well the Terran is the one that needed advice, which is not to drop his units on top of a bunch of roaches lol. I guess one general thing to keep in mind as Zerg is to spread creep quickly and fast expand.
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Thanks, lol. But I was looking for more general issue advice, like FE expand early or at xxx moment, or morph to lair early. I noticed some flaws in my gameplay tactics.

I can now play with you guys on NA SC2, thanks to that 1.1 patch. Anyone wanting to practice with me (I'm predominately zerg) can add me.

Deluded.467
 
{EB}NuTSymPToM{EB} said:
Sorry, I know I asked this earlier, but it was glossed over/ignored in lieu of more interesting SC conversation...

Did anyone else just recently lose voice chat? It worked fine I think up until this weekend. Suddenly nobody can hear me and I can't hear anyone else. I don't think it was the patch since the day before it didn't work either.

I didn't change any setting in game or to my router so I'm kinda at a loss as to why that would happen unless Blizzard changed something and I didn't notice. I couldn't really find anything like this on the main SC2 forums either besides the standard "open your ports" bit.
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I don't know about that voice chat -- I don't use it. But I've seen the bug list for patch 1.1, and they're almost as long as the SC2 beta bug list, and the voice chat being broken was one of them.
 
Vermillion said:
The only P build that I could see giving me some trouble because I haven't seen it but once or twice is a FE build. However, I do have ideas for countering an FE because the FE doesn't pay off right away and Protoss needs expensive structures up in order to beat back certain army makeups. If I don't see certain structures then I send my build in a different direction in order to play on the weakness I see.
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3 bunkers, all techlabs, and push with marine mauraders *just* as his nexus finishes.
 
{EB}NuTSymPToM{EB} said:
Sorry, I know I asked this earlier, but it was glossed over/ignored in lieu of more interesting SC conversation...

Did anyone else just recently lose voice chat? It worked fine I think up until this weekend. Suddenly nobody can hear me and I can't hear anyone else. I don't think it was the patch since the day before it didn't work either.

I didn't change any setting in game or to my router so I'm kinda at a loss as to why that would happen unless Blizzard changed something and I didn't notice. I couldn't really find anything like this on the main SC2 forums either besides the standard "open your ports" bit.
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I don't have a microphone but the person I play with uses voice and it just wont work. I tried using the soundcard to steam some music (the battle music suuuucks) which wouldn't work either. Tried every setting...and I spend a load of times in a studio. Their microphones wouldn't work either, just didn't get through, so we both ended up using skype with a voice call in the background.
 
ok i play protoss and i feel against terran and zerg i am always on the defense. with terran they wall themselves in so i cant really attack so i always wait for them to attack me and i defend. what do u toss players do early game against terran? with zerg i feel im on the defensive cause they usually go rush speedlings then quick expand. when they go speedling i usually build a few cannons in my base to defend against it. but the zerg fast expands what do u guys do when the zerg fast expands?
 
alphaqforever247 said:
ok i play protoss and i feel against terran and zerg i am always on the defense. with terran they wall themselves in so i cant really attack so i always wait for them to attack me and i defend. what do u toss players do early game against terran? with zerg i feel im on the defensive cause they usually go rush speedlings then quick expand. when they go speedling i usually build a few cannons in my base to defend against it. but the zerg fast expands what do u guys do when the zerg fast expands?
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For your build against terran, go gateway>cyber>robo and get that observer out fast to see what he's doing. You can throw up an expo get some practice on your timing before you feel comfortable throwing up a quick expand.

Terran doesnt have any early rushes besides reapers so I skip the zealot and get that stalker out to deal with any reaper rush. As soon as you scout with your observer and know what he is doing, have a good counter game plan for this. If it looks like he is going for an early MM push, get a mix of stalker/zealot/sentry and keep pumping them out of the warp gates whenever the cooldown is done. It is a bit tricky beating MM but you will have to work on your skills to deal with these. They simply overpower protoss in the early game so you may have to take a gamble by teching chargelots/colossi/HT might be a good idea if you dont throw up an early expo. Again, the most important thing is to get that obs out asap to scout so you can adjust your build.

Against zerg i almost always put early pressure usually with 4 gate. I would usually cripple their economy if not ending the game right then. If they go for a muta rush you can usually go in for the kill. I dont like turtling around against zerg cause once they get mutas its over. Forget the early forge and cannons just make units.
 
jeremyshaw said:
3 bunkers, all techlabs, and push with marine mauraders *just* as his nexus finishes.
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Yeah I was eyeballing that idea before but doesn't quite work with my current build. If I go my normal build changing immediately over to a 3rax build won't work very well as I would have wasted resources on other structures and units by the time I scout an FE.
 
ThumperSD said:
For your build against terran, go gateway>cyber>robo and get that observer out fast to see what he's doing. You can throw up an expo get some practice on your timing before you feel comfortable throwing up a quick expand.

Terran doesnt have any early rushes besides reapers so I skip the zealot and get that stalker out to deal with any reaper rush. As soon as you scout with your observer and know what he is doing, have a good counter game plan for this. If it looks like he is going for an early MM push, get a mix of stalker/zealot/sentry and keep pumping them out of the warp gates whenever the cooldown is done. It is a bit tricky beating MM but you will have to work on your skills to deal with these. They simply overpower protoss in the early game so you may have to take a gamble by teching chargelots/colossi/HT might be a good idea if you dont throw up an early expo. Again, the most important thing is to get that obs out asap to scout so you can adjust your build.

Against zerg i almost always put early pressure usually with 4 gate. I would usually cripple their economy if not ending the game right then. If they go for a muta rush you can usually go in for the kill. I dont like turtling around against zerg cause once they get mutas its over. Forget the early forge and cannons just make units.
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yeah with terran i usually rush for charge cause zealots seem useless against MM without charge. so getting charge will slow down to get obs quick. i jus hate how stalker and zeals get raped by MM without charge or upgrades.
 
Yea the mm ball is really strong against all tier 1 units of all races. It takes out a lot of things from early-late game.
 
alphaqforever247 said:
yeah with terran i usually rush for charge cause zealots seem useless against MM without charge. so getting charge will slow down to get obs quick. i jus hate how stalker and zeals get raped by MM without charge or upgrades.
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Early MM push is the hardest thing I have to deal with as a protoss player.. personally Id get up that robo facility for obs because you dont want to make charged lots if he goes air or something. You can use that robo facility to pump out immortals if you see marauders.
 
Last night I learned that I can't play SC2 after drinking a few too many glasses of scotch. Totally had a Protoss steamrolled and then totally mis-microed EVERYTHING and lost my army lmao.
 
I tried Immortal + Stalker build today, seemed to work nicely. any downsides to that combo?
 
Vermillion said:
Last night I learned that I can't play SC2 after drinking a few too many glasses of scotch. Totally had a Protoss steamrolled and then totally mis-microed EVERYTHING and lost my army lmao.
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Try it while being drunk + high =)
 
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