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Starcraft II

refraxion said:
Fruitdealer ousted by fake boxer in GSL.
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Kind of ironic since Fruitdealer 2-0's real BoxeR at blizzcon only to be taken out by fake BoxeR at GSL. Fake BoxeR probably studied Fruitdealer's VODs for hours and hours to find holes in the guy's play. Fruitdealer should have been better prepared overall though since it seems like neither strategy employed by fake BoxeR would be all that uncommon in Korea since they like aggressive micro intensive strategies.

BTW, I found this kind of funny: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1942989
 
This is all Blizzcons fault. Blizzcon makes fruitdealer fly out, has a shitty tournament and then he has to go back and play again in the GSL and loses. He was just not prepared.

Also i think your one line spoiler is pretty lame.
 
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TheResidentEvil said:
This is all Blizzcons fault. Blizzcon makes fruitdealer fly out, has a shitty tournament and then he has to go back and play again in the GSL and loses. He was just not prepared.
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When I read that all I could think of was Illidan yelling "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED" to a little zergling pushing a fruit cart.
 
TheResidentEvil said:
This is all Blizzcons fault. Blizzcon makes fruitdealer fly out, has a shitty tournament and then he has to go back and play again in the GSL and loses. He was just not prepared.

Also i think your one line spoiler is pretty lame.
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Well, I didn't say how he got ousted. That's for you to find out. It's actually all over Teamliquid if you even remotely visit that website.

It wasn't lame at all.
 
^FWIW, I play with umcpgrad quite often and I think I played once with Intel_Hydralisk

Look me up sometimes, northrop:622
 
petertew said:
I'm usually down for some 1v1 practice if you are looking for it. SLCPUNK:895
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Hi all, I'm new here.

Does anyone here play Colonial Line Wars? I consider myself pretty fkin good at that and am always looking for more people to play with.


I'm also platinum/diamond looking to improve my 1v1 game if any low/medium level (like under 800) diamond players want a training partner.

Flowerbridge:538. I play after 6:30 PM PST till whenever. Playing too many custom games is hindering my 1v1 performance.
 
Sorry if this has been addressed, but I did a search and couldn't find it.

Basically, we are 2 people playing sc2 in this house and I just finished building my new comp. Are there any router and/or game settings I need to do to be able to play together? (AT)

Thanks in advance
 
I'm so hopeless at this game. I got placed gold on the ladder (which we all know is average at best) and can win against other zerg players or terrans on a regular basis but Protoss destroys me every single time. And I do mean every time. As in... I have never won a game against a Protoss in Starcraft 2.

It doesn't even take anything fancy on their part. I can never stay ahead of them in supply, and it doesn't seem to matter what units I actually build I still get rolled by the exact same 3 gate + immortal combo. Ling/Baneling/Muta? Dead. Ling/Roach/Hydra? Dead. Ling/Baneling/Roach? Dead.

Happens every time.

I've watched replays, I've watched Day9, I've followed builds that are supposed to defend even 4gate plus Colossus.

Can't do it. Whatever it is that it requires I don't have it.

I think I'll go back to games where the soul objective is to shoot dudes in the face. I'm better at that.
 
^play with petertew, he's a great Protoss player, IMO. The few times I played against him (as a Zerg) he wiped me off the map easily. I'm sure he'll be able to give you some pointers.
 
What makes it worse is I'm fine if they try to cheese. I can kill a cannon rush, DT rush, early proxy pylon attack... whatever. I catch all that stuff fine and fight it off. Any time people go with one of those early all in builds I seem to do fine. I catch them in it ok or am at least prepped partially for it, fight it off, and win.

But any time they just go with a standard big old ball of gateway units and maybe a couple of immortals thrown in for good measure, I get steamrolled.

I can even have a numbers and position advantage and still get completely wasted.

I'm clearly not getting some fundamental part of ZvP, but I can't figure it out for the life of me. Game is getting really frustrating because of it :(
 
you have to be 1 base up on toss
with speed lings as ur base units
and some help with sunken
then scout well
then either roach/ mutas/
corruptor vs. cossi
and creep well
and remember to gas up
 
umcpgrad said:
you have to be 1 base up on toss
with speed lings as ur base units
and some help with sunken
then scout well
then either roach/ mutas/
corruptor vs. cossi
and creep well
and remember to gas up
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I'm pretty good about staying 1 base up. It has to be something in the unit combo or timing that I'm just not getting.

I beat a couple of diamond ranked terran guys tonight and a platinum zerg, but lost two games in a row to gold level protoss dudes who didn't even bother getting any colossus. I know I obviously haven't, but it feels like I've tried everything.

I see Protoss at the pre-game screen now and get the instant urge to cheese like I've never cheesed before just to make sure the game is over quick one way or another.
 
Decelerate said:
Sorry if this has been addressed, but I did a search and couldn't find it.

Basically, we are 2 people playing sc2 in this house and I just finished building my new comp. Are there any router and/or game settings I need to do to be able to play together? (AT)

Thanks in advance
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There's nothing you have to change in router to do any of that unlike WC3.

@ThinJ: Protoss players are strongest in gold and silver (Blizzard revealed this themselves with protoss players winning over 60% of PvT and PvZ in gold / silver). The reason is because as a race it's easy to pick up and easy to do the very basics such as produce a strong solid army without too much effort compared to T or Z.

Bottom line though is that I'm willing to bet it's not your unit composition so much as your overall macro / game sense that needs improvement. At the gold level it's not as much about specific unit counters or builds but rather just getting better at doing the very basics. I can't really give you more pointers than that without replays since all the combos you said you've tried can beat a standard protoss army and vice versa. There's a lot more variables than unit composition.
 
ThinJ said:
I'm pretty good about staying 1 base up. It has to be something in the unit combo or timing that I'm just not getting.

I beat a couple of diamond ranked terran guys tonight and a platinum zerg, but lost two games in a row to gold level protoss dudes who didn't even bother getting any colossus. I know I obviously haven't, but it feels like I've tried everything.

I see Protoss at the pre-game screen now and get the instant urge to cheese like I've never cheesed before just to make sure the game is over quick one way or another.
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I find the big advantages Zerg have over Protoss are speed and macro. I'm guessing you often find yourself fighting large warpgate/robo armies in your ZvP games and getting steamrolled when you engage them directly, so don't engage them directly. Instead scout hard and watch your mini map. When your Protoss enemy looks to be moving out push fast into his base (preferably his natural expo) with your quick units and try to gut his production, then engage his army in a good setting. Your goal should be to trade armies. This way you'll have the econ advantage and can focus hard on creating an army while he tries to rebuild his cleaned out mineral line. Muties are great for this as long as you have good APM, but I often find Zerg players over micro their muties to the detriment of their macro.

Also, think about where you're engaging. Do you find yourself engaging at chokes? That can be particularly bad if he has colossi and some zealots to keep you massed at the choke.

If you post some replays on here we could all have a look and see if we can pinpoint some flaws in your game.
 
I am tempted to play only in the establishment and see how it goes. I am not worried about the W / L or something so maybe Ill see what happens. Although the idea of being handed over 10-15 consecutive losses again because I just passed is not as attractive.
 
ThinJ said:
I'm pretty good about staying 1 base up. It has to be something in the unit combo or timing that I'm just not getting.

I beat a couple of diamond ranked terran guys tonight and a platinum zerg, but lost two games in a row to gold level protoss dudes who didn't even bother getting any colossus. I know I obviously haven't, but it feels like I've tried everything.

I see Protoss at the pre-game screen now and get the instant urge to cheese like I've never cheesed before just to make sure the game is over quick one way or another.
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and make sure you contain him well using the ovy and creep all around the expansions (his), z is the most macro intense and make sure you surround him well make good use of infestors
 
Wow, had a really intense match today against a 2000 rated zerg in ZvZ. This was during game 4 of our weekly CSL matchup.

We were down 1-2 and I had to win this game so we'd go to the ace game where my roommate (2100 protoss) would play and decide the match. I'm only 1100 Diamond right now so I was a little nervous... but I eeked out the win in the end. My roommate went on to dominate the ace game so our school won!

Here's the replay, interesting game:http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UPU2Y89A
 
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Anyone have any tips for TvZ 1v1? I usually win if I play against Terran or Protoss, but against Zerg, I am having a hard time. I usually do a rine rush with shield+armour and I win. But once Zerg goes banelings, I usually die. I know Maradurs are the way to go, but I bare have enough to survive a baneling+zergling attack. What are some good strategies for early TvZ games?
 
lobski2 said:
Anyone have any tips for TvZ 1v1? I usually win if I play against Terran or Protoss, but against Zerg, I am having a hard time. I usually do a rine rush with shield+armour and I win. But once Zerg goes banelings, I usually die. I know Maradurs are the way to go, but I bare have enough to survive a baneling+zergling attack. What are some good strategies for early TvZ games?
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make sure you choke well with bunker support
 
lobski2 said:
I always wall, and I don't think bunkers (who have the same HP as supplies) will help much against a lot of banes.
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take it look at some gameplay and tutorials on chokin with terran
some barrack->tech-> back up with supplies in the back or factoryblock with bunkers
and get some stim ready
 
The easiest way to beat a baneling bust is to do one of the two:

1) Make your wall out of production buildings. It will take far too many baneling to bust it down.
2) Make your wall 2 buildings thick. The easiest way to do this is to make a bunker behind the supply depot. Once the depot's down... there's still a bunker up that the zerg has to contend with.

Personally option 2 is the easiest to pull off and easier to respond with when you think he's busting. Telltale signs of zerg aggression is simply 1 base play. If he doesn't FE then he's going 1 of 3 builds: Roach rush, baneling bust, or 1 base muta.

Both roach rush and baneling bust are countered by the same thing: A bunker behind the wall. 1 base muta takes longer and can be scouted with your nifty 4-5 minute scan (you should always plan a scan at 4-5 minutes into your opponent's base regardless of race, much like zerg plans an overlord sac at around the same time). Even if you scan and don't see a spire (sometimes the spire is hidden via building on overlord poop). Seeing 2 gas + lair at 4-5 minutes is telltale muta play anyway.

If you've played zerg and done a baneling bust, you'll know that the window to attack is right when you get 5-6 banelings to bust down the wall (4 to kill the depot and 1-2 to kill things inside). If you have to make 10 banelings just to bust the wall, it's not worth it at all and it'll delay your attack too much.
 
udneekgnim said:
absolutely entertaining TvZ. skip to 19:25 for start of match

http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/vod/1262

constant battles between Marine & Medivacs versus Banelings / Zerglings / Mutalisks. Terran pulls off constant insane marine micro positioning to battle banelings.
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Absolutely insane game. I wish they would have shown his APM at times. I think I peak around 200, and he probably sustained that kind of APM the whole game. The marine splitting was just perfect.
 
Intel_Hydralisk said:
We were down 1-2 and I had to win this game so we'd go to the ace game where my roommate (2100 protoss) would play and decide the match. I'm only 1100 Diamond right now so I was a little nervous... but I eeked out the win in the end. My roommate went on to dominate the ace game so our school won!
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What school are you representing in the CSL?
 
udneekgnim said:
absolutely entertaining TvZ. skip to 19:25 for start of match

http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/vod/1262

constant battles between Marine & Medivacs versus Banelings / Zerglings / Mutalisks. Terran pulls off constant insane marine micro positioning to battle banelings.

edit: http://www.justin.tv/carefoot/b/272975669

go to 1:17:50 for same game
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Wow it's really BoxeR? He's back? It'd be no surprise if it was BoxeR pulling off Terran miracles.

-Damn, it's FAKE BoxeR aka Foxer

-edit better quality, 720p on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03XiN1x9H94
(split into various vids though, that's the start)

ENEMY-MASS-BANELING-MARINES.jpg
 
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