Star Citizen to Exclusively Use the Vulkan API

Great news, makes sense and hopefully this becomes standard going forward.

 

LOL now there going to change APIs... to an API that needs MASSIVE support

Star Citizen is DOA at this point

 

I take anything even remotely associated with Star Citizen with a huge grain of salt.

 

Not quite.

The game engine right now is DX11 as that's what cryengine 3 was by default. They always planned to support Mantle and/or DX12. They've decided that the work they've done towards that effort is better spent focusing on Vulkan for a multitude of reasons.

Not really seeing the issue. There are plenty of things about Star Citizen that are problematic but this doesn't seem to be one of them. I seem to recall Doom adding Vulkan support pretty easily.

 

does that mean they're gonna need even more money?

 

So, release date is now in the 2020s?

 

Only just read info about this game - not really a fan or anything. but starting to sound more and more like what became Duke Nukem Forever (of which I was eagerly waiting for back in the... late 90ies ). There's a point where they will just need to release the game or it'll start to slowly get behind the times? Cool that they're trying Vulkan - but even cooler if it becomes an actual product that can showcase it.

 

So with this announcement, in addition to the Vulkan announcement of multiGPU support (Crossfire/SLI) is exclusive to Windows 10. Shooting themselves in the foot with this?

 

It's not windows 10 exclusive, by the timer it comes out it will also be available on Windows 11, Windows XII, and Windows "all your data belongs to us".

 

Yet another change in this never ending money grab. Nothing to see here, much like the game itself.

 

So I guess they need another 100 mil to get it switched over. Hookers and blow ain't cheap.

 

Ditching DX12 for Vulkan is something I think we're going to be seeing a lot of new games do.

 

One can dream... but I think developers are going to take the path of least resistance instead, AKA DX11.

 

Disclaimer: I've backed the game - and *trying* to be patient.. not downloading any updates until the 3.0 update - Followung the Production Schedule.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

HOWEVER...
I like reading the comments on here about Star Citizen.. I fully understand why everyone says this stuff!!

When CIG switched over to Amazon lumberyard - Everyone said the same thing.
even thou it was announced AFTER it was done

Axe

 

I don't know why people are upset of the delays and amount of money Robert's has blowing through. Star Citizen keeps expanding to be a huge game(s). GTA 5 was $265M to make and Destiny is rumored to be $500M.

Plus Robert's is well known to take forever to dev a game. So long that several of his games in the past were completely scrapped and remade when new tech came along. Strike Commander is a prime example of a game that went through multiple engines and such a long development it was labeled vaporware. It was an amazing game when it launched though and completely worth the wait IMO.

Star Citizen will be the same knowing Robert's history. They are attempting to make something revolutionary which will take a shit ton of time and money. The only critique I have is CI selling ships for hundreds of dollars that don't exist and will need to be developed rather than spending all resources on the core games; however, who is more at fault, CI for selling not yet existing ships or the people buying them for hundreds of dollars? CI and Robert's are definitely pushing Star Citizen into a new realm of micro transactions.

Going to Vulkan only makes sense for CI and Robert's. Just surprised it took this long to announce.

A big plus is it opens their game to non-Win 10 users.

 

What difference does it make that they announce it after or before? It still takes time away from development, time that they ran out of 3 years ago.

This is the never ending story of gaming, Star Citizen Forever, in the end they go bankrupt, and some other company buy them out, pick up the pieces and might release a mediocre game built from their breadcrumbs. Because don't be mistaken they didn't produce anything more than breadcrumbs until now.

 

While I agree the development of this game is glacially slow, it is still very much playable right now and shouldn't be considered vaporware. Though at this point I expect elite dangerous to have the same features and more by the time it's finally released.

 

Seeing as how mGPU users number in the 1% of 1%, the answer would be no. The industry has moved away from mGPU if you haven't noticed.

Shooting themselves in the foot would be using DX12, since then the other 99.99% that are single GPU would need Windows 10. However with Windows 7 still hanging onto around 50% of marketshare due To MS's user hostile policies in 10, Vulkan makes the most sense since it doesn't discriminate and benefits 7, 8.1, 10 as well as Linux and Android 7+.

 

Awe, shucks everyone. We should've used Unreal Engine all along.

 

Multiple GPUs have always been a top end thing. Support for it isn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be, there are plenty of games that can leverage it still. I'm guessing multiple GPUs are no more exotic than PC VR at this point, with a lot of VR folks on multiple GPUs. Be it Vulkan or DX 12, the linked adapter mode should make using multiple GPUs effectively a lot easier than before.

 

You recall incorrectly. Adding Vulkan support took so long that they deprioritized it and didn't ship it. They patched it in later. You interpret the later patch as a sign that it was easily added. It wasn't.

 

It took 8 months for epic games to add vulkan support to unreal 4.

Expect even more delays or do they even have estimated release dates anymore?

 

I mean who knows, in 5-10 years maybe a new generation of consoles with performance comparable to today's high-end PCs will be out and could handle the workload this game's putting out. When that happens, why not?

 

This game is never going to be released, is it? Haven't we been talking about it for 5+ years now? Just a huge tech demo at this point that has somehow raised like a billion bucks.

I enjoy the ship commercials, but it does seem a little... backwards to me to be spending time/resources on the videos when the game isn't done yet. No?

 

And $150M of that was marketing.

 

Could hookers and blow also be classified under marketing? If so, we can safely conclude that RSI has only really used 1/2 to 1/3 of the money acquired into the actual game.

 

To quote another game that took FOREVER to see a release.... and, by Duke, the reviews Nuked that game..... Star Citizen: Whenever.

 

So Star Citizen will not need a marketing budget?

 

No, it will not because it is never coming out.

 

This is what happens when you give people too much money and don't hold them to a schedule. They are just chasing flavor of the month tech advances in an attempt to stay relevant.

 

I get what you are saying but in reality marketing any product starts from day one. They have already been burning through marketing money to run the websites, social media, trade show appearances, and create videos.

That all costs money and all comes form the marketing budget.

 

The game has been renamed to Star Citizen Forever

 

I bet microsoft has their people blowing up the phone lines begging them to come back to dx12.

If you think this game has taken money and is burning it, at least they are creating content.

Dayz went on steam in 2014 and hasn't had any noticeable improvements in years, the game is still a clunky, wonky, garbage fire of a production. It's almost comical how fucked the development of that game is considering it's ALREADY sold millions of copies. Everyone is saying Bohemia Interactive took all the money and dumped it into other projects, leaving Dayz in limbo. Based on the developer blogs, I still don't see it going anywhere remotely close to a beta launch for at least another solid year.

 

ITYM Star Citi-when.

 

First, SC was going to fully support Mantle. Then they were going to fully support DX12. Now, it isn't Mantle or DX12, it's Vulkan. CEG needs to just finish the game, then patch for all the "cool" stuff they want to add.

 

You do realize Mantle was basically Vulkan 0.9. - it was spawned by Mantle. And a proper implementation of it - much like with DX12 - isn't merely something you patch in later if you want to achieve the full featureset. You have to design for it.

CiG has done a lot of questionable things but this time they're spot on - focusing on Vulkan now means future proofing and not being dependent on a single OS, or single version of a single OS for that matter.