SENTRY: Console-sized gaming PC case project

Ryvaeus

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I'm not 100% sure what could be going on, but I'll give my best attempt to help.
How did you insert the PCIe riser? sliding it from the GPU area to the CPU area and plugging in the riser into the PCIe slot; or plugging the riser into the PCIe slot and pushing it into the GPU area?
Do the cards work if you plug them into the motherboard without the PCIe riser?
I'm a little worried about the loud popping sound that occurred.
I slid the riser in from the GPU slot towards the motherboard area, as it wouldn't go in the other way. Only after sliding it in did I plug the riser to the motherboard's PCIe slot.

Neither of my graphics cards work on this motherboard now, with or without the riser.

However both cards work in my other system, which is in a Silverstone RVZ02, which has its own riser implementation as well.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and offering to help, I'm truly at a loss here.
 

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I slid the riser in from the GPU slot towards the motherboard area, as it wouldn't go in the other way. Only after sliding it in did I plug the riser to the motherboard's PCIe slot.
Ok, good. Some users have forced the PCIe riser to fit the other way which could damage the riser. It sounds like you didn't do that though.

Neither of my graphics cards work on this motherboard now, with or without the riser.
Since you put the riser card in correctly, it doesn't seem like the riser would cause problems unless it was damaged some other way, or is faulty. I don't know enough about the actual electronics of the riser to know of a good way to test it for a fault. You didn't scratch any traces on your motherboard when inserting it did you? It's odd that the riser allowed the system to work for a short time (if I'm reading your first post correctly). I would have thought that the card would have worked 100%, or not at all.

The only other suggestions that I can think of would just risk damaging other hardware such as testing the working system with the riser outside of the case. Hopefully the questions that you've answered for me will help someone else who might be more knowledgeable.
 

Ryvaeus

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You didn't scratch any traces on your motherboard when inserting it did you? It's odd that the riser allowed the system to work for a short time (if I'm reading your first post correctly). I would have thought that the card would have worked 100%, or not at all.
I don't think I did, I was very careful upon inserting the riser as it was my first time working with a flexible riser and also the space is cramped so I didn't want to risk even dropping a screw inside the workspace and have to undo everything just to retrieve it.

Yes, you read correctly; the whole system was working for a while - a couple hours at least, and 1hr of that was running stress tests on the CPU to test thermals. It didn't fail outright, instead there was a gradual degradation of system stability until that pop noise, after which the system no longer recognized anything plugged into the motherboard's PCIe slot.

The only other suggestions that I can think of would just risk damaging other hardware such as testing the working system with the riser outside of the case.
If I had a throwaway system, I'd definitely do that. Unfortunately the only other build in the house is my brother's and I know he wouldn't let me risk his rig.
 

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Hi everyone,

Apologies if this has been addressed already, but in Update 34 it said the 7th and last transport was sent and that everyone should have already received their tracking numbers from the shipping company. I was in the 7th shipment (Order ID 1186), but I have not received an email with a tracking number. I checked IndieGoGo just in case, but I couldn't find anything. Nervous...

Thanks!

EDIT: I'm an idiot. It was in my Junk Mail folder... Hoped I would never be the luddite that makes this mistake. My bad lol.
 

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Ryvaeus, have you thoroughly inspected the riser cable? Do you see any signs of a short? Burned or missing capacitors in the ends of the riser? Singed traces? Missing insulation?

I ask because I did have a situation with one of my Sentries in which the threaded holes for the screws that clamp the pcie riser in place had some burrs or rough bits sticking up and the covering/insulation of the riser ribbon got peeled away when I slid it in to place as it got caught on the rough edge of the screw hole threads. I covered the exposed area of the riser with liquid electrical tape as well as some of the little smd's (capacitors?) near the ends of the riser to avoid any chances of getting a short.

Perhaps I missed it, but does the gpu still work on another motherboard? Could you test it on another board? Does the riser cable work with another device on another board? (Maybe test with something cheap like a wifi or ethernet adapter, not another expensive gpu). Basically, try each component individually to narrow it down.

Is there a chance anything else shorted inside the case? A dropped screw under the motherboard? An unused psu cable like another 6pin or 8pin come in contact with something on the board?

Also have you tried clearing your CMOS? Also it may help to unplug the psu and hold down the power button for 30 seconds to clear any residual charge from some of the capacitors on the board. Are any of the caps on the board damaged? You heard a pop so it's worth investigating.

Also you can reflash your bios to see if that gets the pcie slot going again. I had an issue where I thought my ram was toast. Stopped recognizing either of the slots periodically and then finally failed and wouldn't boot. Tried tons of different sticks of ram, nothing. Finally just reinstalled the bios and everything is fine. Turns out I somehow corrupted the bios. So what I thought was a hardware issue turned out to be software. So it's worth a try.
 

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Ryvaeus, have you thoroughly inspected the riser cable? Do you see any signs of a short? Burned or missing capacitors in the ends of the riser? Singed traces? Missing insulation?
I didn't notice anything wrong with it before I plugged it in to the board or after I removed it when my PCIe slot started acting up, but now that I know what specifically to look for I'll inspect it again. Do you think I should go ahead and remove the shielding to check the wires themselves? Because without doing that, all I can really get a good look at are the PCBs at either end of the riser.

Perhaps I missed it, but does the gpu still work on another motherboard? Could you test it on another board? Does the riser cable work with another device on another board? (Maybe test with something cheap like a wifi or ethernet adapter, not another expensive gpu). Basically, try each component individually to narrow it down.
The GPU does still work on at least one other motherboard. I haven't tested the riser cable yet though, as I don't have any other cheap/disposable components that I can risk at the moment. I realize that I won't be able to use my Sentry without the riser though, so without finding a way to ensure it isn't the cause of the problem, I'll be stuck using an older chassis for now.

Is there a chance anything else shorted inside the case? A dropped screw under the motherboard? An unused psu cable like another 6pin or 8pin come in contact with something on the board?
There may be, when I take everything apart later tonight to redo the build (and also test components against other known working ones) I'll double- and triple-check to make sure there isn't a short anywhere else.

Also have you tried clearing your CMOS? Also it may help to unplug the psu and hold down the power button for 30 seconds to clear any residual charge from some of the capacitors on the board. Are any of the caps on the board damaged? You heard a pop so it's worth investigating.

Also you can reflash your bios to see if that gets the pcie slot going again.
I haven't done either of these suggestions yet, thanks for the tip. A visual inspection of the caps on the mobo showed that nothing was blown, at least from what I could see. However I might be inclined to open up the PSU and inspect the caps inside it, because if something in there blew or got knocked loose, the weird grinding noise I heard immediately after the pop would make sense (as any internal PSU components would've blown under/near the PSU fan). I'll only do this after confirming if switching to a known working PSU would solve the problem, though; I've never opened a PSU before and am pretty hesitant to go digging around inside what I consider to be the most crucial PC component.

Thanks so much for the suggestions, I'll definitely go through each of them again when I get back home for another round of troubleshooting.
 

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I didn't notice anything wrong with it before I plugged it in to the board or after I removed it when my PCIe slot started acting up, but now that I know what specifically to look for I'll inspect it again. Do you think I should go ahead and remove the shielding to check the wires themselves? Because without doing that, all I can really get a good look at are the PCBs at either end of the riser.



The GPU does still work on at least one other motherboard. I haven't tested the riser cable yet though, as I don't have any other cheap/disposable components that I can risk at the moment. I realize that I won't be able to use my Sentry without the riser though, so without finding a way to ensure it isn't the cause of the problem, I'll be stuck using an older chassis for now.



There may be, when I take everything apart later tonight to redo the build (and also test components against other known working ones) I'll double- and triple-check to make sure there isn't a short anywhere else.



I haven't done either of these suggestions yet, thanks for the tip. A visual inspection of the caps on the mobo showed that nothing was blown, at least from what I could see. However I might be inclined to open up the PSU and inspect the caps inside it, because if something in there blew or got knocked loose, the weird grinding noise I heard immediately after the pop would make sense (as any internal PSU components would've blown under/near the PSU fan). I'll only do this after confirming if switching to a known working PSU would solve the problem, though; I've never opened a PSU before and am pretty hesitant to go digging around inside what I consider to be the most crucial PC component.

Thanks so much for the suggestions, I'll definitely go through each of them again when I get back home for another round of troubleshooting.

I wouldn't tear apart the riser yet. Maybe there's another way to test it without risking a gpu. Perhaps a volt meter? Are there any markings on it? A lot number? Hopefully it's not a bad lot.

Also on the psu, be very careful, even when unplugged they still contain enough power in the capacitors to kill you. Open it at your own risk. I'd suggest just removing the fan grill and looking in from there with a flashlight, but avoid opening it completely if you don't have to. It may be worth trying your psu and then a different psu with your components outside of the Sentry case to rule out the psu as well as any shorts against the case itself.

ZombiPL or SaperPL may have some input/suggestions on this as well. I'm sure we will hear from them soon.
 

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I didn't notice anything wrong with it before I plugged it in to the board or after I removed it when my PCIe slot started acting up, but now that I know what specifically to look for I'll inspect it again. Do you think I should go ahead and remove the shielding to check the wires themselves? Because without doing that, all I can really get a good look at are the PCBs at either end of the riser.



The GPU does still work on at least one other motherboard. I haven't tested the riser cable yet though, as I don't have any other cheap/disposable components that I can risk at the moment. I realize that I won't be able to use my Sentry without the riser though, so without finding a way to ensure it isn't the cause of the problem, I'll be stuck using an older chassis for now.



There may be, when I take everything apart later tonight to redo the build (and also test components against other known working ones) I'll double- and triple-check to make sure there isn't a short anywhere else.



I haven't done either of these suggestions yet, thanks for the tip. A visual inspection of the caps on the mobo showed that nothing was blown, at least from what I could see. However I might be inclined to open up the PSU and inspect the caps inside it, because if something in there blew or got knocked loose, the weird grinding noise I heard immediately after the pop would make sense (as any internal PSU components would've blown under/near the PSU fan). I'll only do this after confirming if switching to a known working PSU would solve the problem, though; I've never opened a PSU before and am pretty hesitant to go digging around inside what I consider to be the most crucial PC component.

Thanks so much for the suggestions, I'll definitely go through each of them again when I get back home for another round of troubleshooting.
I see that Ej24 and octagoncow already wrote you everything you should need to test if this is a problem with a riser.
- Clear CMOS and check if it isn't the problem.
- Check if you plugged your riser correctly, because we received some signals that motherboards with steel shielding on a PCI-E slot caused some problems with properly fitting many types of risers (sometimes it is hard to plug the riser in this slot).
- Check PEG power cables for your graphics card. Maybe something wasn't connected properly and your GPU didn't get enought power from the PSU, so it tried to get it from the PCI-E slot and it simply fried it? (you have a 170W card and AFAIR you can only take something like 70W of juice from pci-e slot).
- Use multimeter to check if there is not any short circuit between next two lines in the riser (as i remember, between two middle lines near the small pin in the riser there can be a short circuit because this is GND, so it isn't an issue).
- Clicking sound isn't normal. It can be caused by sparks from some not properly connected plug, or maybe by some dying capacitor or even by some coils (older GPUs had many problems with coils making weird sounds, but it usually didn't affect the card itself nor it's performance).

If you will check all the possibilities and you will be sure that the riser is that thing causing the problem, then send it back to us. We will check it on our side and if it will be causing problems, we will send you a new one.
 

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I inspected the riser and it looks like there were little bits of solder throughout the PCB. Most were too small to be of much concern, but some globs were big enough to short the contacts of the exposed PCIe pins on the riser.

It's hard to see because my smartphone camera can't macro very well, but if you look close enough, they're there.

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I took a pair of fine tweezers and removed as much of the errant solder as I could without scraping at the PCB (didn't want to expose traces). This probably wouldn't do much, but it felt better to me personally to make sure everything was clean.

Aside from this, running all of my components outside of the Sentry chassis showed that everything works fine; even the GPU, which is plugged into the motherboard with the newly-cleaned riser and currently on its 30th minute running Unigine Heaven.

I'll shut everything down now and carefully reassemble the components into the Sentry. I'm fairly confident it should be good to go this time around, despite my not really doing anything major to fix the issue.
 

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Order 1199, Unit 837 reporting on package condition :D

Outer box has a hole large enough to easily fit my hand in.

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Fortunately, the inner box is in very good condition.

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However, there is a minor tear in the back, probably, due to flexing during transit.

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No worries; the case itself is in perfect condition. I'll be building my system in a few weeks after Coffee Lake releases.

Again, thanks to Dr. Zaber team!
 

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Order 1199, Unit 837 reporting on package condition :D

Outer box has a hole large enough to easily fit my hand in.

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Fortunately, the inner box is in very good condition.

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However, there is a minor tear in the back, probably, due to flexing during transit.

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No worries; the case itself is in perfect condition. I'll be building my system in a few weeks after Coffee Lake releases.

Again, thanks to Dr. Zaber team!

What coffee lake cpu are you planning on getting?
 

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I've been keeping up with rumors and reports. Early reports suggest the 8700k runs 10C hotter than the 7700k during the same tasks. It could be a real problem in Sentry. Some undervolting and delidding may be necessary. The non-k versions should be very viable in Sentry though, without tweaking.

https://videocardz.com/72986/intel-core-i7-8700k-and-i5-8600k-review-leaked
Yeah, it looks like it will be hotter. I think I will be fine with my fan attached to the side of the case but definitely won't be able to run the 8700k with the case as is.
 

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What coffee lake cpu are you planning on getting?
I've been keeping up with rumors and reports. Early reports suggest the 8700k runs 10C hotter than the 7700k during the same tasks. It could be a real problem in Sentry. Some undervolting and delidding may be necessary. The non-k versions should be very viable in Sentry though, without tweaking.

https://videocardz.com/72986/intel-core-i7-8700k-and-i5-8600k-review-leaked
I'm planning on getting the i5-8600 or i7-8700 depending on reviews and availability upon release. This will be my first build so I'm not too daring.
 

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According to Polish post it's 6-8 weeks, so less than two months is a worst case scenario.

I'd say if we manage to send 6 shipments by the end of June, then it's more likely August for your order (depending on your case colour), not October.
I'll stay hopeful but your shipping company has quoted the transport time. It will be held up in Australian customs for 2-4 weeks and 90% chance of being unwrapped and inspected and shoved back in it's box before delivery. I would actually of paid more for air freight and the carrier handling the import of the case, less chance of Australian customs pulling it apart and it would be in my hands 5 days after you shipped it. Honestly USD$28 is air freight pricing for shipping.

End June for shipping, July/August sea freight, September AU customs. October delivery. Happy to be wrong....

Contribution Date - January 11, 2017 :eek:
Estimated Delivery Date - April 2017 o_O
My guess - October 2017 :mad:

I am trying to stay positive about Sentry and understand the huge task you have in front of you, the updates do help but my original build plans are out the door now and I'm going to wait for Coffee Lake CPU and 300 series mainboards. Thank god all I bought was a GTX1080.
You thought I was kidding when I said October???

Status still says “Sent from Poland 2017-07-24 13:23 WER Pruszcz Gd.”

8 weeks since shipped and 4 months since I posted in this thread (page 91) there’s no sign of where my Sentry is. No tracking for it yet on auspost.com.au so it hasn't gone through customs.

Any Australian’s received theirs yet? :mad:
 

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You thought I was kidding when I said October???

Status still says “Sent from Poland 2017-07-24 13:23 WER Pruszcz Gd.”

8 weeks since shipped and 4 months since I posted in this thread (page 91) there’s no sign of where my Sentry is. No tracking for it yet on auspost.com.au so it hasn't gone through customs.

Any Australian’s received theirs yet? :mad:
There are people from Australia that got the packages already, sadly the delivery time is around ~12 weeks.

Those are links to the packages which were picked from us on 5th of May (5.05.2017) - press 2nd search button:

http://emonitoring.poczta-polska.pl/?numer=CP906066251PL&lang=en

http://emonitoring.poczta-polska.pl/?numer=CP906066509PL&lang=en

http://emonitoring.poczta-polska.pl/?numer=CP906066543PL&lang=en


The fact that the tracking is not updated doesn't mean the package didn't enter your country, but it simply might be the laziness of customs office not updating the tracking info in postal system. We've seen this over and over with US packages where tracking is showing "origin post is preparing package for shipment" until the last week when the package is in destination post office and they back-track all the info to the system with correct dates showing that shipping time estimates to the destination country were correct OR the tracking info is never updated for some parcels until delivery.

We're sorry for that it's taking this long for package to be delivered, but we can't do anything about the Australian post not delivering packages on time.



As for "Estimated Delivery Date" - when campaign was prepared and later when we launched it, the text displayed in the perks side applet was "ESTIMATED" and when you clicked your order it was "ESTIMATED SHIPPING STARTS" as well as this was the description in the campaigner back-end. We have also shown our plan for the shipments going in smaller batches.

During our campaign there was a big change in indiegogo terms that was instigated by change of terms on PayPal for crowdfunding campaigns that resulted with this change from "ESTIMATED SHIPPING STARTS" to "ESTIMATED DELIVERY DATE", BUT according to the new terms, changed terms weren't supposed to affect ongoing campaigns. Sadly indiegogo changed the interface without keeping the legacy description for ongoing campaigns.
 

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Yes, you read correctly; the whole system was working for a while - a couple hours at least, and 1hr of that was running stress tests on the CPU to test thermals. It didn't fail outright, instead there was a gradual degradation of system stability until that pop noise, after which the system no longer recognized anything plugged into the motherboard's PCIe slot
A pop-noise usually is a condensator that exploded and is broken. That happened to me on an older motherboard. Problem is that you need to identify the condensator and replace it. And it does not mean that it will then work.
When you did the banchmarking. Die you also measure the overall temperatur of the GTX 670 or the Motherboard components?
Could be some thing broke on that one - which is my assumption, as you say the GTX 670 works in another motherboard, most probably your current motherboard has had a piece that broke.
Check it out (Visually).
 

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There are people from Australia that got the packages already, sadly the delivery time is around ~12 weeks.

Those are links to the packages which were picked from us on 5th of May (5.05.2017) - press 2nd search button:

http://emonitoring.poczta-polska.pl/?numer=CP906066251PL&lang=en

http://emonitoring.poczta-polska.pl/?numer=CP906066509PL&lang=en

http://emonitoring.poczta-polska.pl/?numer=CP906066543PL&lang=en


The fact that the tracking is not updated doesn't mean the package didn't enter your country, but it simply might be the laziness of customs office not updating the tracking info in postal system. We've seen this over and over with US packages where tracking is showing "origin post is preparing package for shipment" until the last week when the package is in destination post office and they back-track all the info to the system with correct dates showing that shipping time estimates to the destination country were correct OR the tracking info is never updated for some parcels until delivery.

We're sorry for that it's taking this long for package to be delivered, but we can't do anything about the Australian post not delivering packages on time.



As for "Estimated Delivery Date" - when campaign was prepared and later when we launched it, the text displayed in the perks side applet was "ESTIMATED" and when you clicked your order it was "ESTIMATED SHIPPING STARTS" as well as this was the description in the campaigner back-end. We have also shown our plan for the shipments going in smaller batches.

During our campaign there was a big change in indiegogo terms that was instigated by change of terms on PayPal for crowdfunding campaigns that resulted with this change from "ESTIMATED SHIPPING STARTS" to "ESTIMATED DELIVERY DATE", BUT according to the new terms, changed terms weren't supposed to affect ongoing campaigns. Sadly indiegogo changed the interface without keeping the legacy description for ongoing campaigns.
I did say "End June for shipping, July/August sea freight, September AU customs. October delivery. Happy to be wrong...."

Maybe you can understand why I'm not happy. It's because I was bloody right :cry:
 

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I did say "End June for shipping, July/August sea freight, September AU customs. October delivery. Happy to be wrong...."

Maybe you can understand why I'm not happy. It's because I was bloody right :cry:
Yeah, I get it, you were right about it. At the time we asked about those post estimates on Australia as well and our contact in post was "pretty sure" that they were based on last year statistics, so either Australian post didn't really give other posts proper data or something changed in Australian post affecting delivery times since last year.


I've done a quick search on the matter recently and found few articles from last year about Australian post's being terribly late with deliver times to the point where parcels within a city could sometimes take up to a month to deliver.


Had we known about this situation before launching the campaign from any interested Australian citizen, we would've probably set up for a courier package priced at ~$120 USD. We've done that with few countries (with different shipping pricing specific to the country obviously) where for different reasons we couldn't send the same type of parcel as to US.


I think that knowing the fact that shipping from Europe to Australia is expensive and cheap postal packages take ages to deliver, Australian citizens taking part in the campaign should have contacted us about the shipping during campaign when we still had a chance to figure out if there's going to be a problem with it. People from other countries did, but I don't think anyone from Australia contacted us on this matter.
 
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A pop-noise usually is a condensator that exploded and is broken. That happened to me on an older motherboard. Problem is that you need to identify the condensator and replace it. And it does not mean that it will then work.
When you did the banchmarking. Die you also measure the overall temperatur of the GTX 670 or the Motherboard components?
Could be some thing broke on that one - which is my assumption, as you say the GTX 670 works in another motherboard, most probably your current motherboard has had a piece that broke.
Check it out (Visually).
When I reassembled everything again, I very thoroughly inspected every nook and cranny of the motherboard, front and back, and nothing looked out of the ordinary to me. Anyway, everything is working perfectly fine now after reassembly, so I'm not too concerned about that anymore (though it is curious).

In an unrelated note, in case people were wondering, the Sentry fits very well inside a Pelican 1495 laptop case. In fact it's got plenty of room to spare, as you can see in these new pics:

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When I reassembled everything again, I very thoroughly inspected every nook and cranny of the motherboard, front and back, and nothing looked out of the ordinary to me. Anyway, everything is working perfectly fine now after reassembly, so I'm not too concerned about that anymore (though it is curious).

In an unrelated note, in case people were wondering, the Sentry fits very well inside a Pelican 1495 laptop case. In fact it's got plenty of room to spare, as you can see in these new pics:

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Looks like the perfect case for the Sentry, fits like a glove.
 

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Looks like removing the I/O shield could be worth while.

i5-6600k @ 4GHz, Prime95 v28.9 small FFTs 10min, 24°C ambient. The cpu chamber was sealed, and the cpu fan had a shroud.
With I/O shield: 83°C 2440rpm
Without I/O shield: 80°C 2430rpm

It also dropped the max M.2 drive temps from 75°C to 70°C
 
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You thought I was kidding when I said October???

Status still says “Sent from Poland 2017-07-24 13:23 WER Pruszcz Gd.”

8 weeks since shipped and 4 months since I posted in this thread (page 91) there’s no sign of where my Sentry is. No tracking for it yet on auspost.com.au so it hasn't gone through customs.

Any Australian’s received theirs yet? :mad:
Mine was from the third transport, so it should've been sent in early June. It arrived Australia on 29 August. Yes it took around 3 months.
Because it's a cheap international service, it's not trackable. So you can only wait for it or "the card" to arrive your doorstep.
 

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When I reassembled everything again, I very thoroughly inspected every nook and cranny of the motherboard, front and back, and nothing looked out of the ordinary to me. Anyway, everything is working perfectly fine now after reassembly, so I'm not too concerned about that anymore (though it is curious).

In an unrelated note, in case people were wondering, the Sentry fits very well inside a Pelican 1495 laptop case. In fact it's got plenty of room to spare, as you can see in these new pics:
Very nice pelican case. Always love their products.
I love the size of sentry makes it "easy to transport", but I sure won't be carrying mine around lol
Haven't actually measured it yet but I'd say it weighs more than 5 kg o_O
 

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Because it's a cheap international service, it's not trackable. So you can only wait for it or "the card" to arrive your doorstep.
It is trackable, it is a registered postal parcel and has international postal tracking number. We have sent out tracking numbers for those packages to the backers receiving the cases this way.

There were two problems with that:

1) As said before, if your customs office and post doesn't update the tracking until the package is delivered then the tracking number is useless :/

2) Microsoft based mail tends to block any incoming mail from a new address that you haven't written a message to if you haven't configured it properly, that's why some people were asking to re-send their message with tracking info.
Most of the time they later found our message in spam folder, but in some cases they said they didn't get it at all.
 

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It is trackable, it is a registered postal parcel and has international postal tracking number. We have sent out tracking numbers for those packages to the backers receiving the cases this way.

There were two problems with that:

1) As said before, if your customs office and post doesn't update the tracking until the package is delivered then the tracking number is useless :/

2) Microsoft based mail tends to block any incoming mail from a new address that you haven't written a message to if you haven't configured it properly, that's why some people were asking to re-send their message with tracking info.
Most of the time they later found our message in spam folder, but in some cases they said they didn't get it at all.
I meant it's not trackable in Australia. At least that's what the auspost website showed me when I tried.
I often use international registered parcel but none of those are trackable in Australia (despite having an international tracking number), unless I pay more and use the better EMS service.
On the Polish side, the tracking was correctly reported. Although I'm not sure if it's updated before or after the package was delivered.
 

Rysen

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Very nice pelican case. Always love their products.
I love the size of sentry makes it "easy to transport", but I sure won't be carrying mine around lol
Haven't actually measured it yet but I'd say it weighs more than 5 kg o_O
I have been taking it back and forth from work to home and I can confirm that the weight is no issue for me . Even with the fan I attached to the side it still fits perfectly fine and leaves room for keyboard mouse and VR headset so plenty of room. I am used to the weight though, before the sentry I had one of those ROG laptops that weights about the same as what I have now.
 

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I have two ideas for the Sentry:
  1. Split the base into two pieces to allow for a horizontal configuration with ample space underneath for improved airflow during use and keyboard storage when not. Note: I wanted to draw this using FreeCAD but photo editing was faster.
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  2. Hexagon-shaped holes. Harder to machine, but I like the aesthetic.
 

ZombiPL

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I have two ideas for the Sentry:
  1. Split the base into two pieces to allow for a horizontal configuration with ample space underneath for improved airflow during use and keyboard storage when not. Note: I wanted to draw this using FreeCAD but photo editing was faster. View attachment 37927
  2. Hexagon-shaped holes. Harder to machine, but I like the aesthetic.
1. Split-base for such configuration is asking for damaging the side walls (you are not supporting the whole case by its base, like the rubber feet do, but you are holding the whole case indirectly by its cover). What is more, in vertical position you would need another set of holes, to screw both sides of this stand or use separate stand for this purpose. We will add this idea to the wish-list and when we will gather feedback from our indiegogo supporters, then we will think about such possibility.

2. Small hexagon holes after painting might become rounded holes (or at least "rounded" hexagons). Those holes are also mounting points for hard drives, and for round screws it would be better to screw them through round holes. Maybe a mix of round and hexagon holes.... hmmm. We should better check how such shape will influence the airflow and the possible noise from the fans.
 

Ej24

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If you want it in that position then stick on rubber feet probably better
Rubber feet are already included in Sentry. So, problem solved. Personally I prefer my aluminum feet. I have them on both my Sentry pc's. They're a bit taller than the included feet. No breathing problems for my gtx 1080 Founders Edition whatsoever.
 

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AgShield

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Thanks :)

1. True, and the stresses would not be uniform. Maybe I'll do a stress analysis on SolidWorks in my (very rare) spare time. I don't want to do anything too drastic with my Sentry so soon without any simulations at least...

This idea may even require significant design changes, but if you pull it off, you might be able to fill the void that the Cryorig Taku left behind.

2. I hadn't thought as far as the paint job. With the right layout, in theory, hexagons may have a negligible increase in airflow. Might not be worth it as far as I know at the moment.

N.B. This is all just in my head. I haven't spent a lot of time on this.
 

Morzy

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Instead of reusing the vertical stand, you could manufacture a metal stand for the horizontal position, as well. It could be two parts like AgShield suggested only it would insert into the holes that are for the rubber feet.

It seems overkill but it also seems people might want more than rubber feet while laying horizontal. Could be an optional add-on.
 

SaperPL

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Guys, you know that those feet are quite standard and you can simply order taller feet for those 8 mm diameter holes?



I have tested most of those with the prototype and the performance for 150W TDP GPUs started dropping with feet shorter than 6.4 mm so we've stayed with those.

If you want to use slightly more power hungry cards like GTX 1080 then you can simply pick those 13.7mm tall feet and it should be okay, but some additional contraptions attached from the sides won't look good.
 

Morzy

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Guys, you know that those feet are quite standard and you can simply order taller feet for those 8 mm diameter holes?



I have tested most of those with the prototype and the performance for 150W TDP GPUs started dropping with feet shorter than 6.4 mm so we've stayed with those.

If you want to use slightly more power hungry cards like GTX 1080 then you can simply pick those 13.7mm tall feet and it should be okay, but some additional contraptions attached from the sides won't look good.
I don't doubt your testing. I was more or less appealing to AgSheild and those who wanted more. Heck you could go and 3D print larger feet if need be.

This will be the 2nd week of shipping progress. Can't wait.. I can hear my stock fans on the Air 240 start making noises.. Think they are nearing the end of their lifespan.
 

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Am I the only one who runs a vega 64 inside a sentry? :p
The area close to the exhaust gets hot while gaming. Since it's a blower card there is no performance hit though.
I'm starting to think about mounting a fan outside the case to cool it a bit:rolleyes:
Scythe slip stream slim seems good. It's all black and the thinnest of all.
 
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