mvmiller12
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Just wanted to add that as far as I know, the coil whine isn't actually harmful to the card if it isn't actually bothering you.
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My admittedly limited experience with these cards has taught me this: Vega is SUPER SENSITIVE to power supplies.
Make sure that you are using different PCIe plugs from the power supply instead of using two plugs on the same cable, if you are doing that. Avoid using Molex-to-PCIe power adapters. Make sure your power supply is no less than 750W (again, in my limited experience), and you might STILL need to replace the power supply with a newer (reputable) one if it is more than a year or two old.
My Vega 64 whined like a bitch on my older Antec TruePower 850W. It was truly obnoxiously loud any time a game started up and nothing I did could get that to stop, so I replaced the power supply with another one I happened to have handy. It is almost entirely gone now using this much newer Antec TruePower 750W power supply. If I get into an older title that really ramps up the FPS, I can still hear it faintly, but like I said, mostly gone now. If that were still bothersome to me, I could actually enable the Frame Rate Limiter in the Radeon drivers to eliminate it entirely.
My admittedly limited experience with these cards has taught me this: Vega is SUPER SENSITIVE to power supplies.
Make sure that you are using different PCIe plugs from the power supply instead of using two plugs on the same cable, if you are doing that. Avoid using Molex-to-PCIe power adapters. Make sure your power supply is no less than 750W (again, in my limited experience), and you might STILL need to replace the power supply with a newer (reputable) one if it is more than a year or two old.
My Vega 64 whined like a bitch on my older Antec TruePower 850W. It was truly obnoxiously loud any time a game started up and nothing I did could get that to stop, so I replaced the power supply with another one I happened to have handy. It is almost entirely gone now using this much newer Antec TruePower 750W power supply. If I get into an older title that really ramps up the FPS, I can still hear it faintly, but like I said, mostly gone now. If that were still bothersome to me, I could actually enable the Frame Rate Limiter in the Radeon drivers to eliminate it entirely.
There was an article posted right here on HardOCP that stated that the Seasonic Focus line of PSUs had an issue when combined with the GTX 970 or Vega 56/64 GPUs and it was recommended the you avoid using that combo. Not sure if the problem is resolved or not but maybe the Focus PSU is a contributing factor.This is a new build I made myself for Christmas. Power supply is a Seasonic Focus Plus 750W that I purchased brand new. I am running off of just the one PCIe plugs that splits at the GPU, so I might dig up the box and run a separate cable for each 8-pin connector just to rule that out. Like I said it's not bad.. but if I can easily get rid of it by swapping out or adding another power cable i'll give it a shot.
Love the card otherwise.
There was an article posted right here on HardOCP that stated that the Seasonic Focus line of PSUs had an issue when combined with the GTX 970 or Vega 56/64 GPUs and it was recommended the you avoid using that combo. Not sure if the problem is resolved or not but maybe the Focus PSU is a contributing factor.
Should I get the Sapphire Pulse or the MSI Air Boost Vega 56?
I think all things being equal I would go with the Sapphire Pulse, but I can get the air boost for $260 and it comes with 2 free games, or I can get the pulse for $300. My current case has good airflow (Corsair air 540). Is it worth paying 40 dollars more for the Sapphire card and getting 2 free games that I would probably actually play(world war z and division 2)? How much louder is the air boost and how much more performance can I tune out of the Sapphire?
My case will actually be about 8 feet away from me because I have it hooked up in my living room to play on my Samsung q6fn tv. I need a freesync card because screen tearing is driving me nuts with my 1070 on this TV.
Do you think I will even be able to notice the sound? I sit about 8 feet away from the computer on the couch and play with fairly loud surround sound when im playing. How much performance would I be losing in comparison to my geforce 1070? I'm buying this card because the screen tearing is annoying me and I don't like using vsync. Here's a picture of my setup:I have an Air Boost Vega 56 and a Powercolor Red Dragon (similar to your choices). The Red Dragon is obviously quieter, but I think if someone offered me another Air Boost and $40, I'd "downgrade" to it. I don't think you'll see $40 extra worth of performance (about 15% if my math is right) out of it even if you tweak it. The Air Boost isn't a bad card though if you don't mind the noise from the blower.
Edit: Nevermind, I re-read your post and you said 15 % price difference and not performanceDepends on how loud you have your sound cranked up. I don't think it would really be any louder than turning on that fan in the corner. My point is really how much is $40 extra worth to you? All things being equal, get the Sapphire Card.
I think it's a pretty even trade between the two cards (1070 and Vega 56). Unless you are trying to play twitch shooters competitively, you should have a good experience with FreeSync turned on if the screen tearing was getting to you.
yea cause i have never had any kind of issue like neslepax is having...It could also just be his card is on the way out. I really dont think the performance is all that so much better with over 30% added power limit anyway. If dropping it below +30% fixed the issues i would call it a day.....sure a slight buzz kill but its still works within 5% of mine (if even that much) even if i have full +50% and full fan speed going. He should maybe try boosting the gpu voltage with afterburner and see what effect it has.What about the newer 20.4.2 driver? It sounds like the black screen issues people were complaining about with older drivers.
You're not the first person to report issues on X370 boards (I think they were both MSI boards also) with 1st gen Ryzens that I've seen here recently. Newer bios available for the board? Memory pass memtest?
try 1.2mv or 1.25mv..come to think of it...it can be done in driver performance settings as well even with out After burner (lol i totally forgot)I flashed BIOS to the latest version (did not fix the problem). I also ran memtest with no errors found. I have installed Afterburner. What is a good increment step to increase the gpu voltage by?
Fixed. It was the thermal paste. Even at -20% or -50% Power Limit, the Hot Spot temp under AIDA64 GPU test would regularly hit 100-109C. I am now able to push it to +50% Power Limit again, with the hot spot hovering around ~90C. If I keep the power limit around +20%, the hot spot drops to ~75-80C. Interestingly, I am also seeing a corresponding increase in the GPU power draw. My guess is that the "higher" power limits were drawing more power than could be adequately dissipated. I just didn't think it would happen so instantaneously and trigger an immediate shut down. I can't remember the last time I had to reapply thermal paste to a GPU, and I've owned a lot of flagship models over the years. Thanks for the advice, though! At least all of my driver files are current.
I just want to say: THANK YOU FOR POSTING THE SOLUTION TO YOUR PROBLEM.
So many people have some sort of issue they post about and then just vanish. It is not helpful for other people that may come looking for advice regarding similar issues in the future if there is no follow up from the original poster, even if that followup is a downer like "I never could get it right, so I replaced the unit."
In a perfect world every game will push the gpu to 99% usage, yes in slightly different ways, but why one is crashing and others dont? To me thats more of a hardware defect and not on the devs....with that being said SOMETIMES were dealing with driver/firmware incompatibility which does happen as in the Black screens issues only some cards are effectedI totally understand that, especially after the past week of digging around forums for possible solutions to this problem and finding so many of them that had people never stating what they did after receiving helpful advice.
It's still curious to me that the crashes were only happening in indy games, though. I could easily force the crash in 7 Days to Die, a game that has been in perpetual alpha for years, but I couldn't get Witcher 3 or GTAV to crash at ultra settings. I'm not a software developer, so I don't know the answer to this question: does (I'm assuming) code that is not well optimized for GPU efficiency really push the hardware that significantly?
The home screens in indie titles typically allow the GPU to run wild. I've had NV and AMD cards physically squealing when playing the simplest of games because the frame rate was so high.I totally understand that, especially after the past week of digging around forums for possible solutions to this problem and finding so many of them that had people never stating what they did after receiving helpful advice.
It's still curious to me that the crashes were only happening in indy games, though. I could easily force the crash in 7 Days to Die, a game that has been in perpetual alpha for years, but I couldn't get Witcher 3 or GTAV to crash at ultra settings. I'm not a software developer, so I don't know the answer to this question: does (I'm assuming) code that is not well optimized for GPU efficiency really push the hardware that significantly?
Been playing the newly released Mafia II Definitive Edition, using Vega FE, Ryzen 2700 and Dell 3440x1440p monitor. Was getting tearing since it was over 60 fps, so I used chill set with min and max at 60hz. Amazingly Chill holds it right at 60hz, just like Vsync but with no lag! Very impressed, anyways GPU usage varies between 75% to high 80%, game runs buttery smooth be it at 60fps but with very consistent frame times. Sometimes less is more as a note: When a GPU is at 99%+, it can introduce lag, stutter, pauses.In a perfect world every game will push the gpu to 99% usage, yes in slightly different ways, but why one is crashing and others dont? To me thats more of a hardware defect and not on the devs....with that being said SOMETIMES were dealing with driver/firmware incompatibility which does happen as in the Black screens issues only some cards are effected
That's a good point. Maybe a frame rate limiter would help.The home screens in indie titles typically allow the GPU to run wild. I've had NV and AMD cards physically squealing when playing the simplest of games because the frame rate was so high.
set a global limit of 300, all the frames you could want with no screeching.That's a good point. Maybe a frame rate limiter would help.