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Blackstone said:
Could you guys live with these temps? This is PO -22+200 MHz. This is Furmark and Cinebench running together for worst case scenario. Cooler is Noctua DH15G2.

Bottom line, with 5090FE, CPU temps can get close to 90 and even exceed. GPU hits 600 watts, but GPU temps or throttling is a non-issue. The new FE cooler is brilliant at cooling the GPU. It is the CPU that is the problem. Most of time, CPU at 87ish.

At idle, CPU is like in the low to mid 30s. Wondering if I should repaste.
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What you need is a case with airflow capable of moving 600W+ of heat out. You've got a portable space heater inside there.
 
Blackstone said:
Could you guys live with these temps? This is PO -22+200 MHz. This is Furmark and Cinebench running together for worst case scenario. Cooler is Noctua DH15G2.

Bottom line, with 5090FE, CPU temps can get close to 90 and even exceed. GPU hits 600 watts, but GPU temps or throttling is a non-issue. The new FE cooler is brilliant at cooling the GPU. It is the CPU that is the problem. Most of time, CPU at 87ish.

At idle, CPU is like in the low to mid 30s. Wondering if I should repaste.

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Considering that ridiculous workload, I'd say your temps are acceptable. How loud are the fans while running that load? That would be the make or break for me.

I don't know if your mobo has this, but I can set a custom thermal limit on the CPU in the PBO menu. I set mine to 85C so I don't have to worry about something causing it to go nuclear.
 
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Considering that ridiculous workload, I'd say your temps are acceptable. How loud are the fans while running that load? That would be the make or break for me.

I don't know if your mobo has this, but I can set a custom thermal limit on the CPU in the PBO menu. I set mine to 85C so I don't have to worry about something causing it to go nuclear.
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The problem is HW monitor is reporting spikes into the low 90s in game workloads as well, but I’m guessing those are momentary.

The fans are less than running a dustbuster but not by much. I have two 180mm air penetrators that are just plain loud when spun up, however, much louder than my 140mm and 120mm exhaust and cpu fans. The acoustics are not acceptable long term.

My case is ancient. I’ve already decided to get a new case and AIO for the CPU, but I have to wait for a new desk that is delayed and am wondering if this is ok for a few months.

I am thinking 360mm rad for CPU intaking, and the 5090,will have no problem cooling itself provided there is a bottom set of fans feeding it fresh air. The 5090 cooler is excellent. I’m not worried about GPU throttling at all. It is everything in its path that i’m more concerned about.

This is probably a use case for a water cooled GPU if ever there was one. I’ve been using this airflow since 2009 and this is the first time I’ve even considered needing a new cooling plan.
 
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Blackstone said:
The problem is HW monitor is reporting spikes into the low 90s in game workloads as well, but I’m guessing those are momentary.

The fans are less than running a dustbuster but not by much. I have two 180mm air penetrators that are just plain loud when spun up, however, much louder than my 140mm and 120mm exhaust and cpu fans. The acoustics are not acceptable long term.

My case is ancient. I’ve already decided to get a new case and AIO for the CPU, but I have to wait for a new desk that is delayed and am wondering if this is ok for a few months.

I am thinking 360mm rad for CPU intaking, and the 5090,will have no problem cooling itself provided there is a bottom set of fans feeding it fresh air. The 5090 cooler is excellent. I’m not worried about GPU throttling at all. It is everything in its path that i’m more concerned about.

This is probably a use case for a water cooled GPU if ever there was one. I’ve been using this airflow since 2009 and this is the first time I’ve even considered needing a new cooling plan.
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Take the side panel off then, it'll get cooler.
 
LigTasm said:
What you need is a case with airflow capable of moving 600W+ of heat out. You've got a portable space heater inside there.
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This is really the sum total of the problem! You could literally buy a personal space heater on Amazon that is only 500 watts! I guess when you look at it this way, there is simply no way around rethinking the whole case and cooling situation.
 
So I am thinking about switching to a 360mm radiator AIO on the side of a Lian Li 011 RGB. Are any of you guys running 360 rads in this type of setup, with outside air being drawn in, and if so, what are your temps like? What about acoustics? Is the AIO loud?

I really wanted to do 420mm radiator AIO for lower noise, but I'd need a larger case.
 
Blackstone said:
So I am thinking about switching to a 360mm radiator AIO on the side of a Lian Li 011 RGB. Are any of you guys running 360 rads in this type of setup, with outside air being drawn in, and if so, what are your temps like? What about acoustics? Is the AIO loud?

I really wanted to do 420mm radiator AIO for lower noise, but I'd need a larger case.
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If you're used to a huge air cooled setup the first thing you'll notice is how noisy all the AIO pumps are. It's usually a buzz or hum and it's always there.

For me, where to place the radiator depends on which component runs the hottest. For me, that's the video card, so I didn't want hot air blowing onto it from the CPU rad as an intake, that meant the radiator went on top of the case as exhaust. Low to mid 60C range while gaming.
 
So I've been going through all these parts again, I still can't seem to extract full performance out of this 9800X3D and I'm not sure what else I can try.

Just look at the 1% lows and minimums for Hogwarts Legacy compared to a midrange intel chip (tried with 3D driver and without):
 

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Astral Abyss said:
If you're used to a huge air cooled setup the first thing you'll notice is how noisy all the AIO pumps are. It's usually a buzz or hum and it's always there.

For me, where to place the radiator depends on which component runs the hottest. For me, that's the video card, so I didn't want hot air blowing onto it from the CPU rad as an intake, that meant the radiator went on top of the case as exhaust. Low to mid 60C range while gaming.
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Right, but in my future case, the GPU would be getting a direct supply of fresh air as well from 3 x 120 mm or 140 mm fans underneath it.

Do the fans spin up a lot in 360 mm aio under load?
 
Blackstone said:
So I am thinking about switching to a 360mm radiator AIO on the side of a Lian Li 011 RGB. Are any of you guys running 360 rads in this type of setup, with outside air being drawn in, and if so, what are your temps like? What about acoustics? Is the AIO loud?

I really wanted to do 420mm radiator AIO for lower noise, but I'd need a larger case.
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For my 9800X3D / 4090 setup, I have my rad loop (combined 360 and 480) mounted outside of my case. Still nice and quiet as all the fans are on controllers and typically running at ~1000 rpm. Temps as you can imagine are really low. Nothing gets above 65C, even at sustained max loads when benching. At idle, temps typically sit at or below 30C.

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Accidental posts by phone are the best aren't they?

I was going to say just get a horizontal case and leave the top off or bunch of top fans. Then the tower coolers won't get as saturated from the heat rising. Time to change what kind of cases we use for this much heat management.
 
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For my 9800X3D / 4090 setup, I have my rad loop (combined 360 and 480) mounted outside of my case. Still nice and quiet as all the fans are on controllers and typically running at ~1000 rpm. Temps as you can imagine are really low. Nothing gets above 65C, even at sustained max loads when benching. At idle, temps typically sit at or below 30C.

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This is insanity, lol

I should be getting a 9800x3d pretty soon, looking forward to see how it does.
 
For what it's worth for the people looking for a 9800X3D.... ANTONLINE has them in stock but you will be to make an account to buy one. If you try to without logging in it will show the Item not available for sale.. I just checked and it still has them.. Mine came Saturday and I just put it in.
 
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