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Pixel 8 / Pixel 8 Pro / Pixel 8a

Zorachus said:
https://www.droid-life.com/2023/10/02/pixel-8-pixel-8-pro-get-early-unboxing-love/

Ouch, the comment section at the bottom of the site on this article. People really unhappy with the same fingerprint scanner, and sounding like same camera module, as the Pixel 7 line, and performance and battery life rumors of it being pretty much the same as the 7 Pro, just marginally slightly better. Tensor 3 maybe 15% to 20% better performer compared to the Tensor 2 in the Pixel 7's, but no word if thermals will be better or worse yet. Battery efficiency the same or better? Need to wait for real world reviews.
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The FPS on my 7 Pro has been one of its best features. It was mediocre at first, but after a few software updates it's worked great. As far as the camera, all I want is something that takes good pictures and has decent editing tools. The make or break for me will be battery life.
 
Mad Maxx said:
The FPS on my 7 Pro has been one of its best features. It was mediocre at first, but after a few software updates it's worked great. As far as the camera, all I want is something that takes good pictures and has decent editing tools. The make or break for me will be battery life.
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Have you used one from the S23 family? Night and day difference. I was always in the camp of, "it works good enough" until I used the S23 and saw how an in display reader should work.
 
kirbyrj said:
Have you used one from the S23 family? Night and day difference. I was always in the camp of, "it works good enough" until I used the S23 and saw how an in display reader should work.
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I tried the S23+ and agree that its FPS is much better than the Pixel. I still prefer the overall Pixel experience.
 
Hmm...this color is not what I first thought. Yes I like the matte blue looks good, but the shiny silver chrome colored camera bar is a big turnoff. If the phone is a flat matte color, make the camera bar also matte, not shiny, now it looks tacky and cheesy. Also thought the camera bar on the blue phone would have a bluish tint to it, like a chrome blue color, but it looks to be just plain shiny silver. And the sides / edges are also a shiny chrome. Ugh.
 

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Ugh. Not happy to read this;

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/16y53wd/what_is_google_pixels_visionfuture/

The last leaks for the Pixel 8 and 8 Pro start to clearly show where and by how much Google has been cheapening it out this year. There are always a few things they cut corners on every year, but this year seems like a lot. To name the obvious:

  1. No upgrade to the main camera sensor, still GN1, no GN2.
  2. No ultrasonic fingerprint reader
  3. No UFS 4.0
  4. No base size upgrade
  5. No modem upgrade either
  6. Tensor G3 barely as good as last year's Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 (hopefully more efficient? sure.). And "last year" is being generous as a new one's coming out soon for the upcoming year.
 
Zorachus said:
Ugh. Not happy to read this;

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/16y53wd/what_is_google_pixels_visionfuture/

The last leaks for the Pixel 8 and 8 Pro start to clearly show where and by how much Google has been cheapening it out this year. There are always a few things they cut corners on every year, but this year seems like a lot. To name the obvious:

  1. No upgrade to the main camera sensor, still GN1, no GN2.
  2. No ultrasonic fingerprint reader
  3. No UFS 4.0
  4. No base size upgrade
  5. No modem upgrade either
  6. Tensor G3 barely as good as last year's Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 (hopefully more efficient? sure.). And "last year" is being generous as a new one's coming out soon for the upcoming year.
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So basically, the S23 I've had for the last 6 months is already better than the Pixel this year. I agree with Mad Maxx about the Pixel experience. But when the Pixel Experience is bogged down by terrible hardware, especially poor battery life and poor thermals, I've come to the conclusion that I just might be a permanent convert to Samsung. It's a shame really because the Pixel 5 showed that it's not all about a top end CPU as long as you get the little things right. They just can't get any of the little things right either.
 
kirbyrj said:
So basically, the S23 I've had for the last 6 months is already better than the Pixel this year. I agree with Mad Maxx about the Pixel experience. But when the Pixel Experience is bogged down by terrible hardware, especially poor battery life and poor thermals, I've come to the conclusion that I just might be a permanent convert to Samsung. It's a shame really because the Pixel 5 showed that it's not all about a top end CPU as long as you get the little things right. They just can't get any of the little things right either.
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Maybe phones like the Pixel 7a are what Google's best at? A $499 priced phone, but has the smooth Pixel UI stock Android experience, and has a great camera, etc..but none of the other bells and whistles iPhone's and Galaxy's have.
 
Zorachus said:
Maybe phones like the Pixel 7a are what Google's best at? A $499 priced phone, but has the smooth Pixel UI stock Android experience, and has a great camera, etc..but none of the other bells and whistles iPhone's and Galaxy's have.
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When I had the Pixel 7 and the s23 side by side, the P7 was clearly less smooth than the s23.

I had a 6a and it was fine. It didn't stand out over my P5 though. The P7 was very disappointing. At least disappointing enough to skip the P8 for now.
 
I’m giving Samsung another chance. Ordered an S23 Ultra this morning. If I like it, it’ll only cost me $250 after my Google Fi discount and 7 Pro trade-in. I re-ordered an iPhone 15 Pro, too. Gonna give them all a shot this time.
 
Mad Maxx said:
I’m giving Samsung another chance. Ordered an S23 Ultra this morning. If I like it, it’ll only cost me $250 after my Google Fi discount and 7 Pro trade-in. I re-ordered an iPhone 15 Pro, too. Gonna give them all a shot this time.
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Impressive, most impressive.

Super excited to read your reports.

When are the phones due in?
 
I was thinking about the S23 Ultra again but that awesome Best Buy deal is gone.

And my carrier TMobile I don't ever see them having it on sale or any deals?
 
Zorachus said:
I was thinking about the S23 Ultra again but that awesome Best Buy deal is gone.

And my carrier TMobile I don't ever see them having it on sale or any deals?
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I’ve not been with TM since 2018, but I don’t remember many special phone deals from them.
 
Damn Mr. Money Bags LOL joking

You will have the top 3 best of the best smartphones of 2023. Which will be top dog?
 
Looking at screenshots of these S23U setups does look super cool. Good Lock and Theme Park has so many customizing options;
 

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256GB, Black. I always get the minimal storage option. I never use it all. My 128GB 7 Pro still has over 55GB available.
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I usually like to have double of the minimum amount of storage because I've found that the phones are snappier with more free space available.
That said, I still have haven't been able to stuff more than 128gb of shit into a 256gb bag.
 
Regarding Pixel phones vs the higher-end Android competition, not iPhone's.

I subscribe to a lot of YouTube tech channels, and I recall this Summer seeing a ton of videos about 6 months later with the Galaxy S23 Ultra, or 9 months later with the Pixel 7 Pro, or months later how does the S23U stack up to the P7P?

And surprisingly a lot of these reviewers, 9 out of 10 said, yeah the Samsung 23U clearly has the better hardware, nicer screen, better battery life, etc... But they all said there's something special and unique about the Pixel Pro experience, some "magic sauce" as they'd say, that makes it fun to use, smooth fluid UI, great AI features like Call Screen, and voice dictation, etc... They all said on paper, yes no doubt the Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra is just the better smartphone, but in user experience the Pixel 7 Pro was just more fun and joyful to use daily, even with it's hardware quirks and issues.

And i was surprised to hear that, but I do agree.
 
Pretty much every time that someone has handed me their phone in order to show them how to do something or other I'm completely lost unless they have a pixel phone. So I get that much.
 
Kind of off topic, but just for fun I surfed Best Buy's website, and I was shocked at the deals going for the iPhone 15 Pro Max. They'd offer me $1,000 trade-in for my Pixel 7 Pro, and a monthly payment of just $2.78 / month, seriously just three bucks a month.

Looked at the Galaxy S23 Ultra on Best Buy's site, and no way such good deals, only offering me $300 for my 7 Pro, and the monthly payment on ATT would be like $28/month ( basically thirty bucks a month ) Best Buy had some good offers a week ago, like $749 if bought on ATT and Verizon, but now it's back up to $1,199.

Why is Best Buy just giving super crazy good deals on the brand new iPhone, but kinda crappy no deals on the 8 months old S23U?
 
Zorachus said:
Kind of off topic, but just for fun I surfed Best Buy's website, and I was shocked at the deals going for the iPhone 15 Pro Max. They'd offer me $1,000 trade-in for my Pixel 7 Pro, and a monthly payment of just $2.78 / month, seriously just three bucks a month.

Looked at the Galaxy S23 Ultra on Best Buy's site, and no way such good deals, only offering me $300 for my 7 Pro, and the monthly payment on ATT would be like $28/month ( basically thirty bucks a month ) Best Buy had some good offers a week ago, like $749 if bought on ATT and Verizon, but now it's back up to $1,199.

Why is Best Buy just giving super crazy good deals on the brand new iPhone, but kinda crappy no deals on the 8 months old S23U?
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I looked at some of the 15 Pro Max customer reviews on BB's site. Not the typical over the top bombastic praise for the iPhone. 🤔
 
Just went to Best Buy played around with both the iPhone 15 Pro Max and S23 Ultra.

15 Pro Max = beautiful device very well crafted design and amazing screen and very fluid smooth. But holy cow, there not being a swipe back gesture built into it like Android, Jesus Christmas that was extremely frustrating, like so bad it's almost a deal breaker on not wanting the phone just for that. For 5 minutes I kept putting my thumb on the right side of my screen and swiping it towards the left like I normally do on my Pixel and it doesn't work that way on the iPhone. Ugh :(

Just going into the Phone app or iMessage I would swipe back and instead of taking me back, it would start swiping to delete things. WTF.

And then swiping down on the screen to pull down the notification shade. No not there. There's some strange keyboard that pops up all of a sudden when I swiped down. Like to search for something. WTF is that? Why would swiping down automatically bring up the keyboard, but not pull down my notifications for easier access to interact with? I don't want the keyboard popping up and some bizarre search menu coming up. What the hell would I be searching for on my own phone?

Yes, I love the design of the phone and the screen was beautiful and in the apps themselves they do look very nicely polished and higher quality than Android.

But the way iOS operates and just to move around the UI was extremely frustrating and just not for me whatsoever. I could not deal with it. I would want to return the phone in probably one day out of aggravation and frustration .Unless there's ways to change the gestures and how the phone operates?

No Google News feed panel on the left screen, I am so used to that for years on my Android phones, not having it would be hard to adjust, and yes I can put News widgets on that left screen on the iPhone, but they aren't even remotely close to the Google News Feed.

Again not trying to knock the iPhone and always dog it, I actually did like the device, it was super cool, fast and smooth, and the full screen from top to bottom with little to no bezels is a great look. But the way the UI is so limited and the gestures feel half baked, not sure I could comfortably use an iPhone and be ok with it.
 
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Pixel 8 Pre-orders to go live at 10:30am EST on 10/4.
Pixel 8 Pro will come with free Pixel Watch 2. Pixel 8 will come with free Pixel Buds Pro.
128GB base model on both.
Expect up to $800 in trade-ins.

Now you don't have to wait for the hype machine to reveal it during their live stream ...lol
 
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