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Payday 2

Yeah, so basically Smooth Talker and Intimidate are required. Don't have either of those, and I'm not sure I want to have to fully re-spec at level 60.
 
I did it at around that level, I think it was worth it. Enforcer build gets kinda boring after a while, I feel less useful in most missions, but I think I will invest in it again since I have 9 unspent points right now and don't really see any use in any of the mastermind/ghost perks I don't have yet. I also have about 54 million spendable and nothing to buy, so re-spec is really the only thing to spend money on anymore.
 
My end game spec is going to be enforcer technician with a few points in ghost to get the speed perks.

i rather like enforcer since with the saw you can make mad cash on figherstarter (my highest is 28.5mil), its faster than c4, and just plain useful. plus the body armor makes moving bags across the street way easier. plus i hate stealth its just so boring.
 
Love the game for now, but seriously WHAT THE FUCK is up with the items?????

The entire game revolves around clicking random cards to get totally random shit, none of it useful for the weapon you are currently using?

Seriously? Worst fucking upgrade system EVER.

I heard a guy talking last night that he has 100 mil in the bank and still only has the dumb ass red dot from the pre-order. Are you fucking kidding me????
 
I haven't invested much time into the game, but so far it seems that the upgrade system is as useless as Diablo 3's. At least I'm low enough level that the cash I get means something still. I'm just trying to get good with the stock version of everything and if by chance one day I get an usable upgrade then so be it.
 
Yeah, I might do a respec to Mastermind so I can get the stealth perks and the better chance of rare items. In the end I might go for Enforcer again because I like the ammo bag and heavy armor, but I need more skill points and it's taking forever to level without better perks.
 
MavericK96 said:
Yeah, I might do a respec to Mastermind so I can get the stealth perks and the better chance of rare items. In the end I might go for Enforcer again because I like the ammo bag and heavy armor, but I need more skill points and it's taking forever to level without better perks.
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ghost is the stealth perks
 
I agree with the maps, they need to make them more random. Hopefully a DLC will drop in a month or so but I have noticed that when it first released there were over 45K people playing. Now there is only about 25K or so. I guess either people are tired of playing or just lost interested. I am still having a blast with my buddies though but once Rome 2 comes out next week I will probably take a break from this game.
 
So, I'm looking at the Technician tree, and near the top there is a perk that makes your armor 50% better. Which is not quite as good as the ICT, but you also get all the C4 and whatnot. Only thing you don't get is the saw, which if you have C4 is useless for anything other than ATMs and deposit boxes.

Not sure if I should re-spec or not. Hate to waste that much cash, but I guess I don't have anything better to spend it on.
 
Haven't read thru the thread, but has anyone but getting any crashes? was playing with a few friends tonight. Seems like whenever the host got captured, when they would finally spawn again the game would just CTD. No popups or anything. Happened to a buddy twice, so I took over host, started happening with me also. and some other random guy. haven't seen anything from a general google search.
 
Samson4EiT said:
Haven't read thru the thread, but has anyone but getting any crashes? was playing with a few friends tonight. Seems like whenever the host got captured, when they would finally spawn again the game would just CTD. No popups or anything. Happened to a buddy twice, so I took over host, started happening with me also. and some other random guy. haven't seen anything from a general google search.
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Nah...hasn't crashed for me in 70 lvls. Do have trouble joining games some nights though.
 
Samson4EiT said:
Haven't read thru the thread, but has anyone but getting any crashes? was playing with a few friends tonight. Seems like whenever the host got captured, when they would finally spawn again the game would just CTD. No popups or anything. Happened to a buddy twice, so I took over host, started happening with me also. and some other random guy. haven't seen anything from a general google search.
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i had a few crashes. But last night the guy i was playing with kept having to remake the game since every time some one left the game it would lock the slot. we had to do a overkill firestarter with 3 people.
 
I've had a few random crashes. Not that frequent, but sometimes the game will just drop to desktop with no error or anything.

By the way, I finally found a Holo sight last night, whoo! Only took 60 levels and like 40 hours of playtime...
 
I speced Ghost a bit in Mastermind just to get the smooth talker, I also highly recommend doing a bit in enforcer to get Faster bag movement (2 points) and Downed gives you primary gun to use. FYI if you do level 100 apparently you get like 300 points so you can spec in everything just like the first game.
 
Wrench00 said:
I speced Ghost a bit in Mastermind just to get the smooth talker, I also highly recommend doing a bit in enforcer to get Faster bag movement (2 points) and Downed gives you primary gun to use. FYI if you do level 100 apparently you get like 300 points so you can spec in everything just like the first game.
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According to the Payday 2 Skill Calculator you only get 120 points at level 100. Which means you're nowhere near speccing everything.
 
Huh. That'd be pretty awesome, but it seems like then you may as well just spec to be able to speed run multi-day missions until you get up to 100.

I guess for me, I'd be worried about being sick of the game by then.

EDIT: I was playing with specs, and I came up with this "Mega Hybrid":

http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/mega-hybrid-2/

Viable? With a few more levels I can get the further bag throwing from Enforcer as well. Or do you guys think it's a jack of all trades, master of none?
 
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MavericK96 said:
Huh. That'd be pretty awesome, but it seems like then you may as well just spec to be able to speed run multi-day missions until you get up to 100.

I guess for me, I'd be worried about being sick of the game by then.

EDIT: I was playing with specs, and I came up with this "Mega Hybrid":

http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/mega-hybrid-2/

Viable? With a few more levels I can get the further bag throwing from Enforcer as well. Or do you guys think it's a jack of all trades, master of none?
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Not enough points into Enforcer from the start. Enforcer and Technician should be about the same, Ghost next, and just a few points into Mastermind. I've re-speced about 10 times and this always works best.

http://www.pd2skills.info/#/profile/arkwar1-2/
 
MavericK96 said:
Yeah, but that's a level 100 build. I was going off of being level 62 for now.
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You can do at 62..you will just have to decide which things you want to be missing for a little while. I'm only 71 and it works quite well honestly.

Oh, and you don't need that many points into Mastermind...you really only need 2 for the stamina perk, unless you do alot of stealth stuff and want Smooth Talker and Dominator.
 
Is it just me? Or is the finding a new contracts system broken as heck? Do I have to "wait" for a certain contract to pop up....and if it doesn't, I just have to keep waiting?

Sometimes I'll be in the mood for Ukranian Job overkill, or Nightclub Overkill, etc etc....but my goodness, the contracts almost never pop up. I have to constantly refresh, and its not a quick process. Is there any other way?
 
dukenuke88 said:
Is it just me? Or is the finding a new contracts system broken as heck? Do I have to "wait" for a certain contract to pop up....and if it doesn't, I just have to keep waiting?

Sometimes I'll be in the mood for Ukranian Job overkill, or Nightclub Overkill, etc etc....but my goodness, the contracts almost never pop up. I have to constantly refresh, and its not a quick process. Is there any other way?
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I've noticed it's kinda based on lvl. I'm 71, but a buddy is 81 and he can get harder Pro jobs on Crime.net than I can, so he usually hosts.
 
Tantrix said:
I've noticed it's kinda based on lvl. I'm 71, but a buddy is 81 and he can get harder Pro jobs on Crime.net than I can, so he usually hosts.
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Hmm I dunno about that, perhaps it's more based on variables of location. Ever since I started playing I have had no trouble finding a job that I wanted, whether it be normal, hard, very hard or overkill, pro - whatever. My issue with it is there's like this noticeable hitch when jobs are loading up. Makes me think my PC is freezing :p
 
I'm just sick of clicking on a game in lobby with 2-3 players and having it just sit at "Attempting to Join" or whatever forever...and never actually joining. I have to go through that like half a dozen times before I finally get a game, it seems.
 
Tantrix said:
Oh, and you don't need that many points into Mastermind...you really only need 2 for the stamina perk, unless you do alot of stealth stuff and want Smooth Talker and Dominator.
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Yeah, I did, that was part of the point of the build. I want to do longer stuff like Framing Frames and be able to stealth it without a huge hassle and having to re-do 20 times.

I was also considering something like this: http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/tech-hybrid-4/
 
MavericK96 said:
Yeah, I did, that was part of the point of the build. I want to do longer stuff like Framing Frames and be able to stealth it without a huge hassle and having to re-do 20 times.

I was also considering something like this: http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/tech-hybrid-4/
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That's looks pretty good, but you're really gonna want Shinobi, Sprinter, and Fast Hands from the Ghost tree in addition to those.
 
Any of you guys try. the firestarter bank glitch? its hilarious. one buy hides behind a dumpster and all the cops run over to it but can't shoot him. every one else hides in the bank and doesn't shoot unless being shot a. then you clear out the bank load it into the van an rescue your dumpster ninja. and since you didn't kill enough cops the first wave never ended and there is only about 15 guys over by the dumpster.
 
shifty68 said:
Any of you guys try. the firestarter bank glitch? its hilarious. one buy hides behind a dumpster and all the cops run over to it but can't shoot him. every one else hides in the bank and doesn't shoot unless being shot a. then you clear out the bank load it into the van an rescue your dumpster ninja. and since you didn't kill enough cops the first wave never ended and there is only about 15 guys over by the dumpster.
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I saw someone doing this on Watchdogs day 2. I didn't understand what he was doing really until he told us to come get him at the end. Hilarious if not kinda boring. "Let's put escapes on one day missions" they said, "It'll stop the farmers", they said :p
 
Still rolling as saw Enforcer for now. Though really it's only useful for bank jobs, which for the time commitment are not great on XP and money.
 
MavericK96 said:
Still rolling as saw Enforcer for now. Though really it's only useful for bank jobs, which for the time commitment are not great on XP and money.
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I ditched saw in favor of other class tree perks like run speed, C4, etc. The saw really is overrated with the exception that you can (unless they changed it) slice right through Bulldozers like butter. Otherwise, I only really used it on bank jobs to get the deposit boxes open faster.

I had Enforcer practically maxed out for a long time until I re-speced at around lvl 68 or so, now Fully Loaded is probably as far up as I'm going on the Enforcer tree since they nerfed Iron Man and made it even slower now. I don't even wear the last 2 armors anymore, I just did Bulletproof to make up for it.
 
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Yeah, I am probably going to respec into Technician soon (I already have most of the Mastermind/Ghost perks that I outlined specced). Getting sick of Enforcer for now...as an end-game I could see it being fun, but trying to maximize XP/card gain with it is less than ideal.

I just noticed I seemed slower with Iron Man...that is nonsense. It was slow enough already and it really doesn't do that well against Overkill enemies anyway.

And the saw is indeed pretty situational and I never use it against bulldozers anyway (AFAIK it does still work against them, but when they can down you in two hits with the ICT armor anyway...).
 
MavericK96 said:
Yeah, I am probably going to respec into Technician soon (I already have most of the Mastermind/Ghost perks that I outlined specced). Getting sick of Enforcer for now...as an end-game I could see it being fun, but trying to maximize XP/card gain with it is less than ideal.

I just noticed I seemed slower with Iron Man...that is nonsense. It was slow enough already and it really doesn't do that well against Overkill enemies anyway.

And the saw is indeed pretty situational and I never use it against bulldozers anyway (AFAIK it does still work against them, but when they can down you in two hits with the ICT armor anyway...).
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Enforcer tree is great, but like all the rest of them there's only certain things you need from it. I no longer use Iron Man or Overkill, but I do have things like Transporter, Underdog, Die Hard, Shotgun Impact, Shotgun CQB, and Fully Loaded. I still might get Ammunition Specialist aced, but that may or may not happen...haven't decided.
 
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Yeah, eventually I will probably get the shotgun perks because I LOVE the double barrel.

I re-speced to Tech and it only cost me like 2 mil...out of the 20 mil I had, lol. I already love it way more, the ICT doesn't even feel that much more powerful compared to the second-highest armor + Bulletproof.

I miss the ammo bags, though. :( On the last mission I did (Big Oil I think) only one guy brought a bag and we got owned.
 
MavericK96 said:
Yeah, eventually I will probably get the shotgun perks because I LOVE the double barrel.

I re-speced to Tech and it only cost me like 2 mil...out of the 20 mil I had, lol. I already love it way more, the ICT doesn't even feel that much more powerful compared to the second-highest armor + Bulletproof.

I miss the ammo bags, though. :( On the last mission I did (Big Oil I think) only one guy brought a bag and we got owned.
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You definitely want the shotgun perks, especially when you're running a rifle in primary and something like the Locomotive in secondary like I do...it makes your secondary a beast.

And yeah, I don't feel like I'm too squishy running the Flak jacket + Bulletproof...I do pretty good and I still have awesome speed. On the ammo bags, agreed...as 100% Enforcer I had 2 ammo bags, and it comes in quite handy...I'm still missing it.
 
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Yep...then again, I've been in games where everyone had 2 ammo bags and it was excessive.

I think I will be much happier now, anyway. I actually really like the assault rifle perks in Tech because if I'm not using the shotgun, I use the M308 or AK-742.

Also, you should hit me up on Steam...MavericK99966
 
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