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Opera uploaded a video to YouTube today that demonstrates tab stacking in Opera 11 beta.
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And now we sit and watch how quickly this gets copied into Chrome, Firefox, Safari, etc... everyone nicks everyone's ideas. It is frustrating how little credit Opera get for their innovation.
(Yes... I'm an Opera user and have been for over a decade now...)
And now we sit and watch how quickly this gets copied into Chrome, Firefox, Safari, etc... everyone nicks everyone's ideas. It is frustrating how little credit Opera get for their innovation.
(Yes... I'm an Opera user and have been for over a decade now...)
I liked it better when it was called Panorama and was shown off by Mozilla months ago.
Oh wait, I guess that doesn't fit in with YOUR reality, does it?
tabs with in tabs?
what next tabs with in tabs with in tabs?
T_T Open another instance of opera and drag all those tabs to that window yeah you can have 2 windows open at once!, why do you need to stack tabs in tabs, a tab system is to accommodate a lack of space, this only suits like 10 people.
I invented this when making piles of paper on my desk.
I have Opera, Firefox and IE installed here. But still use Opera 99% of the time. Just personal choice.
Opera did not get this from Firefox 4. As a matter of fact, Opera has been able to group tabs for several years. It's not as intuitive, though, as you use a panel to do it. But claiming that Firefox did tab grouping before Opera is flat out wrong.I'm all for giving credit where credit is due, but Opera nicked this from Firefox 4, and I think Firefox 4's implementation is *much* more powerful.
Another way to look at it is that Firefox Panorama is over-engineered and heavy. It's too much. It's as if the designers at Mozilla fell in love with their own "1337 design skillz" and just piled on stuff. Opera's solution is simple, but also much more intuitive and usable.Opera's approach is basically a more minimal subset of what Firefox did. Lookup Panorama, the name of the feature in Firefox 4 beta.
This is nothing like Panorama, though. It's much less clumsy and "bloated."I liked it better when it was called Panorama and was shown off by Mozilla months ago.
Opera 11 has extensions tooI'm hooked on Chrome extensions now.
Another way to look at it is that Firefox Panorama is over-engineered and heavy. It's too much. It's as if the designers at Mozilla fell in love with their own "1337 design skillz" and just piled on stuff. Opera's solution is simple, but also much more intuitive and usable.
It's Windows 7 task bar for Opera
isn't this already done at the bottom of your computer screen?
How about planting an IDEA inside a tab inside a tab inside a tab?
Impossible you say? Not impossible, I did it to my old computer. I planted an IDEA within a tab within a tab within a tab. When i closed all the tabs, it thought it was still in a tab so it ended it's process and blue screened. How sad those times were.
The 74 tabs I have open are putting Opera at a 840MB memory load 5 minutes after a clean start. .
That is the point... no one is "normal" here. I currently have 30 tabs open as I start Opera this morning. And that will climb into much higher numbers when researching something.you aint normal
and proud of it.you aint normal
Me to man I lov Opera.And now we sit and watch how quickly this gets copied into Chrome, Firefox, Safari, etc... everyone nicks everyone's ideas. It is frustrating how little credit Opera get for their innovation.
(Yes... I'm an Opera user and have been for over a decade now...)
The problem with Panorama is that it's over-engineered, bloated and cumbersome to use. You are taken away from the browser, and into some kind of bloated management system. Of course, you may prefer it that way, but it seems that most people don't really think Panorama is all that good (check out the MozillaZine forums, for example).No, Panorama can scale, Opera's tab grouping can't.
Because you have everything right there, at your fingertips? No need to switch to a completely different context to do thing?The big advantage Panorama has is that you groups you aren't working on aren't wasting space. Opera's tab grouping still uses precious tab space. Why do I want a group I'm not interested in wasting space in the tab bar?
And, sadly, I think it fails. Panorama is the result of a huge project where Mozilla got external people to submit their ideas. And this over-engineered monstrosity is what they came up with?Panorama is trying to create a new shift in how we use browser like tabs did back in the day.
Yeah, because Opera never takes any risksWhether or not Panorama succeeds is a completely different story, but at least Mozilla is taking a risk on something that could be huge.