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No 5090 - Cool!

the_sextein said:
All I know is the 9800X3D is out or scalped, the 9550X3D will be as well. The 3090, 4090, and 5090 were all non existent at launch and we are working our way down to 2nm pretty soon where raster will hit a brick wall. I think this industry is tapped out. The same goons that raided Wal-Mart for Pokémon cards will bot up all stock on their credit cards and hopefully nobody will buy them since 5080's are slower than 3 year old cards for those of us that are not stupid. It's to the point where AMD dropped out and so did Intel. My 4090 is worth more now than it was when I bought it brand new. All I'm saying is they have failed and I'm tired of jumping through hoops to get ripped off for a 30% improvement every 3 years with no SLI options. Considering most of the game studios are full of DEI hires and haven't put out a worthwhile game in 10 years I think it's time for me to walk away from this hobby.
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9800X3D has been available the last month. I could get it right now for MSRP at my nearest Microcenter.
 
MavericK said:
I am - they still disappear in seconds. Stock is clearly not enough to keep up with demand.
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And you think it’s because their performance and value are off the charts?

Nvidia knows better. I love tech as much as the next guy but I trust independent reviews much more than ces slides.
 
rhcliff said:
9800X3D has been available the last month. I could get it right now for MSRP at my nearest Microcenter.
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I've seen it appear above MSRP online but I don't live near a microcenter. I'd be more interested in the upcoming 9550X3D but my point is that AMD's competition has dropped out and Nvidia's competition has dropped out. Now all they do is make unreliable quantities of chips that usually get scalped.
 
the_sextein said:
I've seen it appear above MSRP online but I don't live near a microcenter. I'd be more interested in the upcoming 9550X3D but my point is that AMD's competition has dropped out and Nvidia's competition has dropped out. Now all they do is make unreliable quantities of chips that usually get scalped.
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The difference is that AMD has been making enough processors.

Nvidia sent 230 5090s to all of Microcenter, which is a joke for a nationwide launch.
 
I wouldn't know about AMD other than I have seen unusually high asking prices for the 9800x3D on newegg and amazon. I never had an interest in the 9800X3D because I'm a 7950X3D user who needs the extra cores for content creation. I won't be shocked if the 9550X3D doesn't show up or it's hundreds of dollars above MSRP but at this point I'm starting to not care. I'm pretty much VRAM locked in Blender and I'm GPU locked at 4k gaming for the last decade due to the death of SLI and releases like the 2000 series and 5000 series.
 
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the_sextein said:
I wouldn't know about AMD other than I have seen unusually high asking prices for the 9800x3D on newegg and amazon. I never had an interest in the 9800X3D because I'm a 7950X3D user who needs the extra cores for content creation. I won't be shocked if the 9550X3D doesn't show up or it's hundereds of dollars above MSRP but at this point I'm starting to not to care. I'm pretty much VRAM locked in Blender and I'm GPU locked at 4k gaming for the last decade due to the death of SLI and releases like the 2000 series and 5000 series.
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Stop looking at third-party sellers.
 
I'm not, they show up on searches for GPU's and I notice them. I'm not looking for a 9800X3D and the 9550 isn't here.
 
the_sextein said:
I'm not, they show up on searches for GPU's and I notice them. I'm not looking for a 9800X3D and the 9550 isn't here.
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You need to select the Sold by Newegg filter, otherwise the search is going to show you whoever on their marketplace currently has stock.

Example:
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Actually clicking the link shows the marketplace seller:
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With the "Sold by Newegg" filter turned on:
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the_sextein said:
I wouldn't know about AMD other than I have seen unusually high asking prices for the 9800x3D on newegg and amazon. I never had an interest in the 9800X3D because I'm a 7950X3D user who needs the extra cores for content creation. I won't be shocked if the 9550X3D doesn't show up or it's hundreds of dollars above MSRP but at this point I'm starting to not to care. I'm pretty much VRAM locked in Blender and I'm GPU locked at 4k gaming for the last decade due to the death of SLI and releases like the 2000 series and 5000 series.
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I doubt it. I'm a 7950X3D user too. It was always less popular than the 7800X3D. Most gamers aren't interested in paying several hundred more for basically no gain in gaming performance.
 
I understand that and I appreciate you trying help me out but like I said, I'm not in the market for a 9800X3D and I've been in this industry for 20+ years so I understand how Amazon and Newegg 3rd party rip off's work. It doesn't change the fact that there was a shortage of chips and they were being scalped just like everything else in this corrupt market place. If they can be bought now at a reasonable price then that is great and I'm glad but I won't be shocked if we see the same crap when the 9550X3D comes out. All NV GPU's seem to be cut off so that they retain their value and keep people from giving them away or buying last generation products.
 
rhcliff said:
I doubt it. I'm a 7950X3D user too. It was always less popular than the 7800X3D. Most gamers aren't interested in paying several hundred more for basically no gain in gaming performance.
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It's possible and you are probably correct but look at the 5080 and 5090. People will spend $1600 on scalped 5080's that are slower than $1600 4090's from 3 years ago.
 
the_sextein said:
I've seen it appear above MSRP online but I don't live near a microcenter. I'd be more interested in the upcoming 9550X3D but my point is that AMD's competition has dropped out and Nvidia's competition has dropped out. Now all they do is make unreliable quantities of chips that usually get scalped.
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I was able to get a 9800x3D at retail price from Amazon in November. You just need to be on top of it.
 
Blackstone said:
Dude I have no idea what it is worth.
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Lol, that's obvious I guess. Prolly at least do a cursory search for recent threads selling them or on eBay at least. Or at least don't equate it to a new 5080. 😅
 
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233 microcenter 5090's? Wow, I can't imagine that took long to produce. I wonder why nobody can find one? Oh well, they are $7000 on ebay if you really need one lol.
 
the_sextein said:
233 microcenter 5090's? Wow, I can't imagine that took long to produce. I wonder why nobody can find one? Oh well, they are $7000 on ebay if you really need one lol.
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wounder what 80s going did get one. id have no issue flipping it if i could find 90 in stock in the month or so
 
Elios said:
wounder what 80s going did get one. id have no issue flipping it if i could find 90 in stock in the month or so
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They are on Ebay for about $2000 which would pay for a 5090 but I only glanced at them. They may or may not be actually selling at those prices. I would hope not but I'm pretty sure they do sell sometimes.
 
the_sextein said:
And I bought a 4090 for MSRP on launch day. Doesn't mean they were not short of supply and scalped like crazy.
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I have personally seen the 9800X3D in stock more times than I can count. If you really wanted one you could get it. Unlike the 5090.
 
Again your not paying attention to what I'm saying. I said that I didn't want a 9800X3D but that I saw it sold out and being scalped on amazon and newegg. Armenius posted pictures of it being sold out and scalped at newegg up above in this very thread. I'm not saying you can't find one for MSRP at this point in time. What I'm saying is it's the norm for major retailers to sell out and then scalp. I don't have a microcenter near me. I'm also not trying to compare AMD to Nvidia because Nvidia is much worse but the entire industry is crap and it's caused me to grow tired of this circus every time I need an upgrade. It's compounded by the fact that you could buy a GPU with a 30% increase after a single year of waiting and then another card would launch with another 30%. If you waited 2 years you would get a 60% improvement and could then buy SLI and turn it into a 120% improvement for $1000. Now you have to wait 2.5 years for 30% and pay $2500 for a card that isn't even in stock. I have shit that I need to do and this industry has slowed to a crawl because their is no competition anymore. AMD will suffer the same fate as Intel, just give them a few years without competition. What's even more frustrating for me is that it doesn't even matter if you are willing to pay retarded prices because unless you know somebody in Silicon Valley you are screwed.
 
I'm not upset I couldn't order the 5090 this morning through Best Buy. I get it jammed pack with buyers.

My beef though is, like the 4090 FE that thing was NEVER in stock it's entire 2 years. I checked Best Buy's website rotainly and went into local Best Buy's, and it was just never available.

Even AIB 4090s at Microcenter were far and few yes they had them here and there, but for 2 years those cards were extremely difficult to find.

I hope the 5090 isn't just more of the same and forever out of stock where you get like 30 seconds to press purchase otherwise your screwed.

WTF nVidia get your stock situation much improved.

I'm cool not being able to buy a 5090 today, no biggy, but come April / May let's say I'm ready, why can't I just go to Best Buy's website and order a 5090 FE? I doubt I'll be able to then because these cards for whatever reason are so crazy rare well after intonial launch even.
 
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As you can probably tell I am annoyed that I couldn't get one today because this is the third GPU launch which took 8 freaking years for 3 card launches and all of them were launched like this. They don't even perform very well and it's annoying. I'm not going to visit best buy's site everyday for months on end or pay $3500 from some retailer on amazon or newegg because amazon and newegg couldn't get any stock so mom and pop shops scalp their cards through them. I'm going to check after work for a few weeks and if I don't score one then I'm done. I'm not doing it this time. I miss the days when you could show up to Nvidia's site and buy 2x 980TI's casually after you got off work. Now they can't even sell them because of the bot net.
 
the_sextein said:
As you can probably tell I am annoyed that I couldn't get one today because this is the third GPU launch which took 8 freaking years for 3 card launches and all of them were launched like this. They don't even perform very well and it's annoying. I'm not going to visit best buy's site everyday for months on end or pay $3500 from some retailer on amazon or newegg because amazon and newegg couldn't get any stock so mom and pop shops scalp their cards through them. I'm going to check after work for a few weeks and if I don't score one then I'm done. I'm not doing it this time. I miss the days when you could show up to Nvidia's site and buy 2x 980TI's casually after you got off work. Now they can't even sell them because of the bot net.
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Yeah I hear ya, agreed.

Look at the 4090, that card was still difficult to find in stores or Best Buy website this past Fall, and at the time it was a 2 year old video card and still mostly out of stock.

What. The. F.

This leaves me little hope a 5090 FE will be easy to get even 6 months later.
 
I lucked out and got a 4090 from newegg on launch day but it was total luck. All of the cards sold out in one second and I refreshed the page 5 minutes later and one card popped back up and I bought it. Probably somebody that bought multiple cards with a bot and decided to cancel one of them. I also have little hope for the 5090 and I'm almost disgusted with myself for being willing to pay for it given it's performance and price but I need the VRAM and pro solutions cost even more and don't work well with games.
 
the_sextein said:
I understand that and I appreciate you trying help me out but like I said, I'm not in the market for a 9800X3D and I've been in this industry for 20+ years so I understand how Amazon and Newegg 3rd party rip off's work. It doesn't change the fact that there was a shortage of chips and they were being scalped just like everything else in this corrupt market place. If they can be bought now at a reasonable price then that is great and I'm glad but I won't be shocked if we see the same crap when the 9550X3D comes out. All NV GPU's seem to be cut off so that they retain their value and keep people from giving them away or buying last generation products.
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No worries. I was just providing an example since you were saying you were seeing high prices. The same shopping strategy applies to anything being sold on a platform that hosts a marketplace like Walmart and Amazon.
 
What happened to Blackstone? He locked all his threads and made his profile private.

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They are correct, there is nothing they can do to help.

My name is Daniel, and I am with Best Buy's executive offices. Corie Barry forwarded your email to my attention for follow up. I appreciate the time you took to make us aware of your experience.

As someone who is a gamer, I know how sought after this item is and the frustrations that can occur when trying to order one on release. Unfortunately these items bring a lot of traffic to our website and we do our best to keep the inventory numbers as accurate as possible. However, due to the demand for the item, there is not a back-order option. These will get released in these bulk inventory releases until the demand has stabilized.

I recommend you continue to check our site for future releases and inventory updates. If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out to me directly.
Best Buy should allow long-standing and verified account holders to place backorders and wait it out. Even charge for 50% of the cost with options to keep waiting every 30 days. Something.

Best Buy initially indicated that customers could "wait in line" when adding the item to their cart. However, this system did not function as expected—it simply removed users from the queue. Given the anticipated high traffic, Best Buy should have implemented a more effective solution.

The company has stated, "Due to the demand for the item, there is not a back-order option." However, this is precisely when a backorder system is needed.

Best Buy relies on "bulk inventory releases until demand stabilizes," but it's clear that demand for the 5090 will not stabilize anytime soon, if ever.

As a result, customers who genuinely want to purchase the 5090 are being pushed toward resellers and scalpers. The average customer has little chance of securing a unit, even if they check the Best Buy website around the clock. If they do find it in stock, they often encounter a "Something went wrong" error before they can complete the purchase.

Best Buy could take additional steps to ensure that legitimate buyers—those who intend to use the 5090 rather than resell it—have a fair chance to purchase one. As things stand, the current system overwhelmingly benefits resellers, scalpers, and their automated bots.
 
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Tanquen said:
They are correct, they is nothing they can do to help.

My name is Daniel, and I am with Best Buy's executive offices. Corie Barry forwarded your email to my attention for follow up. I appreciate the time you took to make us aware of your experience.

As someone who is a gamer, I know how sought after this item is and the frustrations that can occur when trying to order one on release. Unfortunately these items bring a lot of traffic to our website and we do our best to keep the inventory numbers as accurate as possible. However, due to the demand for the item, there is not a back-order option. These will get released in these bulk inventory releases until the demand has stabilized.

I recommend you continue to check our site for future releases and inventory updates. If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out to me directly.
Best Buy should allow long-standing and verified account holders to place backorders and wait it out. Even charge for 50% of the cost with options to keep waiting every 30 days. Something.

Best Buy initially indicated that customers could "wait in line" when adding the item to their cart. However, this system did not function as expected—it simply removed users from the queue. Given the anticipated high traffic, Best Buy should have implemented a more effective solution.

The company has stated, "Due to the demand for the item, there is not a back-order option." However, this is precisely when a backorder system is needed.

Best Buy relies on "bulk inventory releases until demand stabilizes," but it's clear that demand for the 5090 will not stabilize anytime soon, if ever.

As a result, customers who genuinely want to purchase the 5090 are being pushed toward resellers and scalpers. The average customer has little chance of securing a unit, even if they check the Best Buy website around the clock. If they do find it in stock, they often encounter a "Something went wrong" error before they can complete the purchase.

Best Buy could take additional steps to ensure that legitimate buyers—those who intend to use the 5090 rather than resell it—have a fair chance to purchase one. As things stand, the current system overwhelmingly benefits resellers, scalpers, and their automated bots.
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In summary: Nothing has changed folks, big surprise.
 
Furious_Styles said:
In summary: Nothing has changed folks, big surprise.
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Yep, BestBuy, had the Gigabyte Aorus 5090, only one, "Coming Soon" today, which vanished a few minutes later to Sold Out. Even if one is constantly checking around the clock, your time would almost be assured to be wasted. Maybe they should not even list any 5090's until they have a sufficient quantity to sell. That way their customers are not wasting hours, days and even weeks checking over and over again. Plus, would solve unneeded traffic to their site.
 
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