Newegg to start charging sales tax to eight new states starting July 1st

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So, everybody complaining here is guilty of tax fraud for not paying the taxes previously on their own, correct? And those bragging about Oregon - don't kid yourselves, just because you don't have sales tax doesn't mean you don't pay it elsewhere. Oregon is in a tie with California for the overall highest taxes on their citizens in this country.

"Poor me! I can't get away with my online tax fraud scam anymore!"
 

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Huh? What? First of all your logic doesn't hold up.
Hold it, hold it, hold it, I'm not here to discuss the cost of living or whatever, I honestly thought it was cheaper to live in Oregon because people in rural north/central Idaho are often looking to move to eastern Oregon (and my niece moved from Seattle to Portland because she couldn't afford to live anywhere in Seattle). That is not central to what my post is about. If you look at what I wrote, especially in relation to the person I quoted, what I'm saying is that in the 90's they discussed ecommerce sales tax being based on the state that SOLD the item, but it would be too easy to circumnavigate that law.

EDIT: Turns out NWRMidnight is right, it is cheaper to live in Deleware than Oregon. But the deserts of eastern Oregon are missing an important cost multiplier that is affecting Idaho in spades - that is, people from California looking to retire on 50 acres of forested land.
 
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Newegg is still in business?
Why not? They're better than Amazon just for their search and the prices are good generally. They also don't comingle their inventory with 3rd party sellers leading to lots of counterfeits like Amazon on hot categories.
 

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Newegg is still in business?
Hell, Mwave is still in business, and you have to go back quite a ways to find the time when Mwave and Newegg were neck-and-neck in computer parts e-tailing.

Mwave is unrecognizable now, but it still has a broad selection of goods that your cat might want to shit on.
 

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I honestly thought it was cheaper to live in Oregon because people in rural north/central Idaho are often looking to move to eastern Oregon
Eastern Oregon might as well be another state. (They've tried more than once to split it up, but it will never happen) The entire eastern half is almost entirely empty - every bit as much as middle of nowhere Nevada.

That's the problem with Oregon. The voting population that controls everything are the weirdos in Portland, and the NW corner where Portland is has totally different economics, weather, politics, etc than everywhere else. With that said, there is a reason people don't want to live in Eastern Oregon, just like they don't want to live in most parts of Nevada. It's remote. It's desolate. It's poor. Weather isn't great.

I moved from Oregon to North Carolina, and while my income has not changed, it's like I got a 200% raise.

Plus there's a lot of people going to Oregon 'cause they just wanna smoke pot. ;)
 

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Hold it, hold it, hold it, I'm not here to discuss the cost of living or whatever, I honestly thought it was cheaper to live in Oregon because people in rural north/central Idaho are often looking to move to eastern Oregon (and my niece moved from Seattle to Portland because she couldn't afford to live anywhere in Seattle). That is not central to what my post is about. If you look at what I wrote, especially in relation to the person I quoted, what I'm saying is that in the 90's they discussed ecommerce sales tax being based on the state that SOLD the item, but it would be too easy to circumnavigate that law.

EDIT: Turns out NWRMidnight is right, it is cheaper to live in Deleware than Oregon. But the deserts of eastern Oregon are missing an important cost multiplier that is affecting Idaho in spades - that is, people from California looking to retire on 50 acres of forested land.
LOL people are leaving Idaho because of the low wages. Cost of living in Idaho is 18th lowest in the nation or place 32 on the high cost of living out of 50 states, but with their low wages, people still can't afford it. (not even sure why cost of living was brought up, as it has nothing to do with sales tax in the light of this discussion, nor does cost of living, it also has nothing to do with the ecommerce sales tax discussed in the 90's) Speaking of that discussion: How would it be easy to circumnavigate the law if it was based on the state the company is located? If I order from Newegg, which is based in California.. how can I get away from paying California tax if it was based on the business location, and I live in Washington? If you are trying to imply that companies would just locate to states that have no sales tax, I doubt it, as sales tax has zero influence on where a company decides to place it's business, as sales tax doesn't effect their business costs, other than having to track and send the state a check. It is a cost that is strictly paid by the consumer.

As for Californian's moving to other states (not just Oregon), that is a completely different subject, and again, has nothing to do with sales tax.
 

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If you are trying to imply that companies would just locate to states that have no sales tax, I doubt it, as sales tax has zero influence on where a company decides to place it's business, as sales tax doesn't effect their business costs, other than having to track and send the state a check. It is a cost that is strictly paid by the consumer.
That could not be more wrong. If Walmart was based in Oregon, and they didn't have to charge any sales tax, and Amazon was based in California, and they had to pay some of the highest sales tax...don't you think Walmart would have the advantage? Sure, technically the sales tax is paid by the buyer, but if you give them a choice to pay it or not pay it what do you think they will choose? If one company could advertise "no sales tax", then they would have more sales. Most people look at the final total shipped cost, they don't care if certain pieces of that cost go to different places.
 

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That could not be more wrong. If Walmart was based in Oregon, and they didn't have to charge any sales tax, and Amazon was based in California, and they had to pay some of the highest sales tax...don't you think Walmart would have the advantage? Sure, technically the sales tax is paid by the buyer, but if you give them a choice to pay it or not pay it what do you think they will choose? If one company could advertise "no sales tax", then they would have more sales. Most people look at the final total shipped cost, they don't care if certain pieces of that cost go to different places.
Would they have more sales? Not necessarily. How many gas stations on the same strip in a town have different prices? Does everyone rush to the cheapest priced gas station? Nope! Do those cheaper priced gas stations do more business? Nope! They go to the station that has better quality, better service, etc. In the online world, some go for the lowest price, others go for the best service, better return policy, better support, better delivery options, reliability, availability, and most of all better customer service. Paying Sales tax doesn't make or break a consumers decision to purchase a product, even a difference in price doesn't really play a big part in the purchasing decision (customer service is the biggest factor in the decision). Would the companies bottom line be better if they where able to promote "no sales tax"? Nope because the more sales would have to be able to compensate for the added cost of being in a state that has no sales tax, as most have a higher income tax/land tax/ and business tax, so even if they where selling a product at the same price , they would make less money from each sale due to the higher cost of doing business in a no sales tax state. So on the surface, your argument might look accurate, but when it comes to the cost of doing business standpoint, it isn't accurate, as the "more sales" would never be enough to cover the extra cost of being in business in a no sales tax state.
 
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How many gas stations on the same strip in a town have different prices? Does everyone rush to the cheapest priced gas station? Nope! Do those cheaper priced gas stations do more business? Nope! They go to the station that has better quality, better service, etc. In the online world, some go for the lowest price, others go for the best service
Go back and read this thread. It is full of people complaining that Newegg is adding tax, while Amazon has had it for quite some time. Several of these people like to buy from Newegg simply because they were not previously getting taxed. Meaning if it came down to Amazon vs Newegg, they would choose Newegg for an item priced exactly the same if they didn't add tax.

"Service" is not a quality most people look for with online sales, one store isn't much better than the next, and, well, they all kind of suck at customer service. They know they have a captive audience and don't need to offer very good service. Most consumers would choose a lower price over possible better service.

Whether moving to a state with no sales tax would account for other taxes that might have to be paid is irrelevant, because this practice isn't allowed and you're just guessing at what the cost differences might be.
 

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Go back and read this thread. It is full of people complaining that Newegg is adding tax, while Amazon has had it for quite some time. Several of these people like to buy from Newegg simply because they were not previously getting taxed. Meaning if it came down to Amazon vs Newegg, they would choose Newegg for an item priced exactly the same if they didn't add tax.

"Service" is not a quality most people look for with online sales, one store isn't much better than the next, and, well, they all kind of suck at customer service. They know they have a captive audience and don't need to offer very good service. Most consumers would choose a lower price over possible better service.

Whether moving to a state with no sales tax would account for other taxes that might have to be paid is irrelevant, because this practice isn't allowed and you're just guessing at what the cost differences might be.
People complaining doesn't change the facts of business. There will always be people who will want to save every penny possible and not pay sales tax, but in reality, they are the minority, and account for very small portion of the people in the world. Most people don't even comparison shop now days, they buy from merchants they trust where price is not a factor, and they impulse buy. Why is Amazon so big? Do they really have better prices.. no, not really.. They are so big.. because of their customer service and return policies, not because of their prices, or if they charge or don't charge sales tax. And no, most consumers don't choose lower prices over better service that is a myth that any successful business owner will disagree with. There have been a lot of businesses fail that have offered lower prices over service.
 

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There will always be people who will want to save every penny possible and not pay sales tax, but in reality, they are the minority, and account for very small portion of the people in the world.
Bullshit. Do you have any facts to support this ridiculous statement?

Why is Amazon so big? Do they really have better prices.. no, not really..
They most certainly do. Almost everything on Amazon is priced the same, or less than their competition. Yes, that is why Amazon is so big. Biggest selection + lowest prices = winner.

I always shop around for the lowest price, and I could not care less about "service". That is not what I am paying for. I make on average around 2-3 purchases a week from Amazon, not because I love Amazon, but because they are the same price or less than anybody else.
 

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How would it be easy to circumnavigate the law if it was based on the state the company is located? If I order from Newegg, which is based in California.. how can I get away from paying California tax if it was based on the business location, and I live in Washington?
As I said in my post, Newegg could have their warehouses and their shipping hub based in California - that's the kind of employee base that states would want to protect (witness all the states 'bidding' for Amazon's east coast fulfillment center.) If ecommerce tax was based on the location of the sales, all that Newegg would need to do to take advantage of tax-free sales is locate their sales office in Oregon or Delaware or Alaska, and then continue to ship from warehouses in California. Attempting to do tax by the location of the item at the moment it was purchased would invalidate drop shipping, co-locating inventory, custom sales (where a vendor orders a custom item from a manufacturer), and could even affect the laws underlying the commodities market.

There were discussions about all of this over 20 years ago when ecommerce was just taking off.
 

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Since the Chinese bought a controlling stake, Newegg is completely dead to me. Fuck China as the currently popular saying goes.
 

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Bullshit. Do you have any facts to support this ridiculous statement?

It's many years of owning 2 businesses, as well as 20 years of being in top management in highly successful companies... So I am not just speaking as a consumer but also from being on the other side of the fence as well. But you can call bullshit all you want.


They most certainly do. Almost everything on Amazon is priced the same, or less than their competition. Yes, that is why Amazon is so big. Biggest selection + lowest prices = winner.

I always shop around for the lowest price, and I could not care less about "service". That is not what I am paying for. I make on average around 2-3 purchases a week from Amazon, not because I love Amazon, but because they are the same price or less than anybody else.
You might shop around, and you might care less about service, but that is you, not the majority of people. We are a nation of convenience and throw away society.. which means most don't shop around for the better price, they shop where it's most convent and has the best service. Sorry if that goes against what you do. But what gets me, is here you are trying to say sales tax effects your buying choice, yet here you go, saying you buy 2 or 3 items off Amazon a week, admitting they are the same price or less (how much less ???? we don't really know)... But what about the sales tax.. are you trying to tell me, that those 2 or 3 items a week can't be found from a vendor that does not charge sales tax if they are the same price? I am sure you can.. But, because of convenience, paying or not paying sales tax isn't really a top priority, now is it? I think you just demonstrated my point, and contradicted your argument.

Also, sorry, but the Majority of everything on Amazon is within penny's of it's competition, with some items priced higher, and some lower, but on average Amazon's prices are within penny's of it's competition. Their algorithm of price setting is based off popularity. When an item is popular, they reduce the price below it's competitors, which is why all the articles you see indicate that prices are 10 to 13% cheaper at Amazon, because they majority of the time are researching popular items that people are currently buying, however when such item is no longer as popular, the prices goes back up to equal or higher than it's competition, and those figures are not calculated into such articles. This is just another fancy way of having items on sale, just as their competitors run discount sales, or weekly sales. It's the same deal, just dressed up differently. So, you get lucky sometimes on Amazon to get the better deal, just as you get lucky to buy items at best buy or Newegg on sale, that beats Amazon. But the majority of people don't shop around, as Amazon is convent, saves them time, and time is money.
 

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As I said in my post, Newegg could have their warehouses and their shipping hub based in California - that's the kind of employee base that states would want to protect (witness all the states 'bidding' for Amazon's east coast fulfillment center.) If ecommerce tax was based on the location of the sales, all that Newegg would need to do to take advantage of tax-free sales is locate their sales office in Oregon or Delaware or Alaska, and then continue to ship from warehouses in California. Attempting to do tax by the location of the item at the moment it was purchased would invalidate drop shipping, co-locating inventory, custom sales (where a vendor orders a custom item from a manufacturer), and could even affect the laws underlying the commodities market.

There were discussions about all of this over 20 years ago when ecommerce was just taking off.
I see what you are saying, but it wouldn't work that way. In fact, that is exactly what has been happening now, just in reverse so to speak, but on the consumer end instead. If a company doesn't have it's business entity in the state (be it warehouse, office building, or it's main head quarters), it didn't have to charge sales tax in that state. That is why the laws have been changed, and here we are having this discussion about sales tax now being charged by Newegg. If sales tax was based off the business location, it would need to be calculated from the shipping warehouse, as that is where the majority of the cost to the state come from, having those warehouses there destroying roads, etc. Not it's sales office. As for bidding wars, that has zero to do with sales tax. Sales tax has nothing to do with protecting employees.. you are trying to talk about donuts when we are talking about a steak dinner so to speak. IN other words you are trying to talk about something that has nothing to do with the other. Bidding wars is about business/land tax packages, which sales tax is not a part of.

The thing is, there is a misconception that if sales tax was based on the business location, people believe that a company would go out of there way to keep their customers from paying sales tax. Which they wouldn't as it wouldn't be cost effective. They would try to have it so they can track as few sales tax rates as possible (IE the locations of their warehouses) Now they have all 50 states to worry about (minus the states that don't have sales tax).

The new laws they have enacted have actually put a huge burden, onto the company because they have to now track every states tax rate, modify every one when those rates change.. etc. In fact, some actually track by county in each state because each county/city has different rates. Some (like steam use to do as an example) charges everyone the county sales tax that is the highest in the state, all though where you reside in the state may be lower, you end up paying the higher sales tax.
 
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It's many years of owning 2 businesses, as well as 20 years of being in top management in highly successful companies... So I am not just speaking as a consumer but also from being on the other side of the fence as well.
I don't see how that could even remotely be proof of anything except you like to brag. Most consumers choose price over service, thus the existence of Walmart stores. Why is Walmart probably the most popular brick and mortar store in the country? Because they provide the lowest prices while cutting customer service and employee training to an absolute minimum, sometimes non existent at all. Does that scare shoppers away to the stores with better service? Because it sure seems like whenever a Walmart comes to town all the other stores that might have had better service go out of business.


But what gets me, is here you are trying to say sales tax effects your buying choice, yet here you go, saying you buy 2 or 3 items off Amazon a week, admitting they are the same price or less (how much less ???? we don't really know)... But what about the sales tax.. are you trying to tell me, that those 2 or 3 items a week can't be found from a vendor that does not charge sales tax if they are the same price?
You still don't understand how this tax thing works do you? I am not a tax cheat. EVERYBODY charges sales tax. I live in North Carolina, therefore, I am REQUIRED to pay NC sales tax on EVERY purchase. Even if an online vendor does not charge me directly. And yes, 99% of places will charge me directly the same as Amazon does. If they don't, it's part of the taxes I pay yearly.
 

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I don't see how that could even remotely be proof of anything except you like to brag. Most consumers choose price over service, thus the existence of Walmart stores. Why is Walmart probably the most popular brick and mortar store in the country? Because they provide the lowest prices while cutting customer service and employee training to an absolute minimum, sometimes non existent at all. Does that scare shoppers away to the stores with better service? Because it sure seems like whenever a Walmart comes to town all the other stores that might have had better service go out of business.



You still don't understand how this tax thing works do you? I am not a tax cheat. EVERYBODY charges sales tax. I live in North Carolina, therefore, I am REQUIRED to pay NC sales tax on EVERY purchase. Even if an online vendor does not charge me directly. And yes, 99% of places will charge me directly the same as Amazon does. If they don't, it's part of the taxes I pay yearly.

First, I understand exactly how the sales tax work, as i am in a state that use to not be charged sales tax by Newegg and others.

As for bragging, no.. it has nothing to do with that. You believe most consumers go for lowest price, with no regard to service be it online or B&M.. you are wrong. Why is Walmart so popular? Take a look at the majority of their customer base, which is low income, and who they tailor their products and prices for. Low quality/smaller pack sizes to make it appear they have better prices. Low income families make up over 32 % of the working families as of 2011, and that number has only increased since, and is getting closer to 35 to 38% today.

These are the majority of people shopping at Walmart, and the majority of them are not online shoppers, specially at places like Newegg. Walmart also have a huge diverse selection of products which goes along with convenience, where many of their B&M store competition does not. The B&M stores that do not go out of business due to Walmart moving in, are not the ones that lower their prices, but are those that realized they had to expand their line of products they carry and/or change their business models that are more in line with todays quick paced world.


As for cutting customer service and training at Walmart.. those are propaganda points that are not true over all. Yes, there are some locations that have issues, but that is a management issue and not a corporate issue.

If your therory is correct, then explain how Verizon is the largest wireless carrier in the United States, all while having also the highest prices? Specially since customer service means nothing, and it's all about low prices?

What you are trying to argue may have been true 15 to 20 years ago, but is not true today.
 

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If your therory is correct, then explain how Verizon is the largest wireless carrier in the United States, all while having also the highest prices? Specially since customer service means nothing, and it's all about low prices?
Funny you say that. I just switched to Verizon, and it is quite a bit cheaper than AT&T for the same thing. Verizon also offers better service in more rural areas, which make up the majority of the US. (when I say service I mean signal, not customer service)

You have provided no evidence what so ever that "most people choose service over price". Your explanation of Walmart only backs me up, because those 38% you speak of are choosing price over service. They are not the only ones. And, BTW, I am not low income, but I do shop at Walmart. Rich people are usually some of the cheapest...I mean thriftiest...people you will ever find, that's how they get rich.

Buying things online is not about "service". You do not get "service" online. You deal with a computer, that's the end of it. Most online retailers even if you call them you are talking to a computer, maybe routed to somebody in India if you are lucky. Buying online is the equivalent of "self service", like using a vending machine. If you have a product question they cannot answer it any better than the moron working at Walmart. And for returns, it's usually entirely automated.

And I'm really not sure why you are arguing about this, it has nothing to do with this thread. Newegg does not offer anything that anyone would call "good service", neither do it's online competitors.
 
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Funny you say that. I just switched to Verizon, and it is quite a bit cheaper than AT&T for the same thing. Verizon also offers better service in more rural areas, which make up the majority of the US. (when I say service I mean signal, not customer service)

You have provided no evidence what so ever that "most people choose service over price". Your explanation of Walmart only backs me up, because those 38% you speak of are choosing price over service. They are not the only ones. And, BTW, I am not low income, but I do shop at Walmart. Rich people are usually some of the cheapest...I mean thriftiest...people you will ever find, that's how they get rich.

Buying things online is not about "service". You do not get "service" online. You deal with a computer, that's the end of it. Most online retailers even if you call them you are talking to a computer, maybe routed to somebody in India if you are lucky. Buying online is the equivalent of "self service", like using a vending machine. If you have a product question they cannot answer it any better than the moron working at Walmart. And for returns, it's usually entirely automated.

And I'm really not sure why you are arguing about this, it has nothing to do with this thread. Newegg does not offer anything that anyone would call "good service", neither do it's online competitors.
Verizon isn't cheaper than AT&T on 95% of there services. Unlimted plans, they are higher prices, majority of all other plans.. higher prices. But, you don't have to take my word for it, the statistics are out there for your little fingers to look up. Now, you may have been lucky and got in on one of their special deals.. it won't last. (been a Verizon customer for well over 10 years.. but you don't like people who have the experience to tell you such things). All you have given is your personal "feelings" or "perspective" as a consumer, on this topic, with nothing to back it up with, other than what you as a consumer believes and/or what works for you. You can sit and repeat it's not about service.. majority go for price, and don't care about customer service till you are blue in the face, or your fingers fall off, it won't change the fact that you are wrong. For you, it may be price, but for the majority it is not.

As for Walmart, you disregarded the rest of what I said.. and that is the fact that most low income families and the people Walmart cater too, do not order online, Specially from Newegg or similar, as they do not have the money to spend on computer hardware, etc. nor do they have the funds for shipping that usually go with ordering online, unless they are lucky enough to get something that has free shipping. They are just basically trying to survive. As for service, there is customer service online.. EVERY business has to do with customer service, no matter what the business is, or what part of the chain they are. I am starting to wonder if you even understand what customer service is, and what all it includes, or even where it begins or ends.

It really doesn't matter anymore, because it is time for us to agree to disagree. Because it is obvious that you and I will never agree, as you have a one sided perspective as a consumer, where I have both as a consumer, and a business owner. Take care.

Edit: just for you:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jiawer...ice-is-key-to-e-commerce-growth/#1770719f3dc6
https://www.shopify.com/blog/customer-service
https://www.omniconvert.com/blog/customer-support-can-get-online-sales.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_service

You're welcome.. Of course, you could have easily found this information yourself instead of expecting other's to do it for you or to sit and argue about something you don't seem to fully grasp. And you are lucky, because I don't make it a habit of doing the work for people, or taking the time to educate them.

Here is one more thing for you:
Overall, Verizon is the better of the two. At present, you’ll get faster speeds most of the time and better service coverage. But, AT&T has them beat on price and perks, with coverage that’s only a little bit under Verizon’s performance – so it’s a close call.
https://www.dailywireless.org/mobile/verizon-vs-att/
 
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Verizon isn't cheaper than AT&T on 95% of there services. Unlimted plans, they are higher prices, majority of all other plans.. higher prices. But, you don't have to take my word for it, the statistics are out there for your little fingers to look up. Now, you may have been lucky and got in on one of their special deals.. it won't last. (been a Verizon customer for well over 10 years.. but you don't like people who have the experience to tell you such things).
No special deal. No contract. Just a lower price. At my last check my phone has used 63gb of data, and that's only 12 days into my cycle. I don't have to take your word for it, or look up any statistics...like I said, I just switched and they are cheaper. I got nothing special from Verizon that anybody else could not get, and it is no way a limited time offer. I'm happy to hear experiences from other people, what I don't like are cocky assholes who don't know what they are talking about.

All you have given is your personal "feelings" or "perspective" as a consumer, on this topic, with nothing to back it up with, other than what you as a consumer believes and/or what works for you. You can sit and repeat it's not about service.. majority go for price, and don't care about customer service till you are blue in the face, or your fingers fall off, it won't change the fact that you are wrong. For you, it may be price, but for the majority it is not.
LOL! What actual evidence have you provided other than "cause I said so"? You are most certainly welcome to your opinion, but when you try to pass it off as fact without anything to back it up you just sound stupid.

As for Walmart, you disregarded the rest of what I said.. and that is the fact that most low income families and the people Walmart cater too, do not order online, Specially from Newegg or similar, as they do not have the money to spend on computer hardware, etc. nor do they have the funds for shipping that usually go with ordering online, unless they are lucky enough to get something that has free shipping. They are just basically trying to survive.
Opinion, not fact. Again you have provided no supporting evidence.

I am starting to wonder if you even understand what customer service is, and what all it includes, or even where it begins or ends.
I could say the same about you. What type of service is it that Newegg provides that is so fantastic as to risk committing tax fraud?

It really doesn't matter anymore, because it is time for us to agree to disagree. Because it is obvious that you and I will never agree, as you have a one sided perspective as a consumer, where I have both as a consumer, and a business owner.
The only thing I agree with is you have ridiculous opinions that you can't back up with facts, and you think you are more important than other people just because you claim to run a business, and like to put people down. I am a business owner also, I have been self employed my entire life, never once had an actual "job", and I can proudly say I have done quite well for myself.

You are absolutely welcome to express whatever opinion you have here, but trying to pass that off as fact without any supporting evidence what so ever is not acceptable behavior. Your opinion is no more correct, or important than anybody else's. Some stupid links you found in google mean nothing, google and the internet is full of outdated or incorrect information. I'm not going to waste my time reading articles that you hand picked to try and agree with you, when I'm sure I could find exactly the opposite "facts" with the right google search.


If you want to keep arguing about this let's at least keep it to the actual subject, and that is Newegg tax policy. Otherwise send me a PM because you are thread crapping and nobody cares about what you are rambling on about. I notice nobody is agreeing with you.
 
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NWRMidnight

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No special deal. No contract. Just a lower price. At my last check my phone has used 63gb of data, and that's only 12 days into my cycle. I don't have to take your word for it, or look up any statistics...like I said, I just switched and they are cheaper. I got nothing special from Verizon that anybody else could not get, and it is no way a limited time offer. I'm happy to hear experiences from other people, what I don't like are cocky assholes who don't know what they are talking about.


LOL! What actual evidence have you provided other than "cause I said so"? You are most certainly welcome to your opinion, but when you try to pass it off as fact without anything to back it up you just sound stupid.


Opinion, not fact. Again you have provided no supporting evidence.


I could say the same about you. What type of service is it that Newegg provides that is so fantastic as to risk committing tax fraud?


The only thing I agree with is you have ridiculous opinions that you can't back up with facts, and you think you are more important than other people just because you claim to run a business, and like to put people down. I am a business owner also, I have been self employed my entire life, never once had an actual "job", and I can proudly say I have done quite well for myself.

You are absolutely welcome to express whatever opinion you have here, but trying to pass that off as fact without any supporting evidence what so ever is not acceptable behavior. Your opinion is no more correct, or important than anybody else's. Some stupid links you found in google mean nothing, google and the internet is full of outdated or incorrect information. I'm not going to waste my time reading articles that you hand picked to try and agree with you, when I'm sure I could find exactly the opposite "facts" with the right google search.


If you want to keep arguing about this let's at least keep it to the actual subject, and that is Newegg tax policy. Otherwise send me a PM because you are thread crapping and nobody cares about what you are rambling on about. I notice nobody is agreeing with you.
As expected, I see you ignored all the links I gave you, so you learned nothing.. oh wait, you say they are out dated, even though they are from 2016, 2107, and 2019... so you won't accept my experience, and now you won't accept the proof you asked for, and some how, using google to get the proof you asked for is a bad thing.. Not sure how else someone is supposed to provide you proof without using google which has tons more links about he same thing many dated from 2019, I just threw up a few for your, sorry they where not all from 2019. I guess everyone has links memorized, or a college professor on speed dial just for these occasions, my bad....

If you go back and read my comments.. I was not the one who brought up all of this other discussion outside of the sales tax, nor was I the one who started this argument... I was responding to other's comments, who responded to my comment about the sales tax, and then you decided to join in and carry it here. I never said anything about Newegg performing any type of service that would require them to commit tax fraud or anything of the sort.. not sure where you pulled that comment out from, other than to attempt to troll, and steer this discussion off in another direction.. again.

I also never said, or demonstrated that I am more important that anyone else. I told you facts, that you disagree with, and that is fine. You have said multiple times that there is not customer service in online sales, and it's about lower price (which paying or not paying sales tax is reflected in the final bill)... and I have proven you wrong, if you only took the time to read the links I supplied, oh wait, again, you say they are out dated.. so you are ignoring them. I also have proven to you with the same material that consumers will pay more to get good customer service, 7 out of 10 or 70% of customers to be exact (which is more than present in online sales, again in the links I gave you), which proves you wrong that people are about low prices, and nothing else. You flat out said bullshit! to what I said, haven't given any proof that counters other than your words, all while expecting me to give you proof.... which I finally gave you, which Is really not my responsibility. Yet, you are the one who started arguing and disagreeing with me. If you don't agree, it's your job to go out and either find information that proves otherwise, and post it in your counter argument, or learn that you wrong. IF you actually read the links I gave you, you will see, or should see, that you are wrong. People will pay more for customer service which is present in online sales (again the links I supplied talks about this), which means that the final total on the bill is not the deciding factor. Which is in line with this discussion because that is really what paying sales tax reflects, the finally total on the final bill. There are the minority, which are all about the lower price, which are the ones that are upset about having to pay sales tax when buying from Newegg.

BTW, this thread is not about Newegg's tax policy as it has NOTHING to do with "policy", it is about federal and state laws that they are required to follow, which now mandates that they charge the appropriate sales tax for the order being made based on the consumers's address. If a person really wants to get technical, this thread is about those that are pissed about having to pay more due to those laws and want to express there anger, frustration, support, or what have you about it.

Now, I will say it one more time.. Lets agree to disagree, and please don't ignore that request again. Thanks.
 
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DellAxim

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If you go back and read my comments.. I was not the one who brought up all of this other discussion outside of the sales tax, nor was I the one who started this argument... I was responding to other's comments, who responded to my comment about the sales tax, and then you decided to join in and carry it here.
If that makes you feel better...you can pretend that.

I never said anything about Newegg performing any type of service that would require them to commit tax fraud or anything of the sort.. not sure where you pulled that comment out from, other than to attempt to troll, and steer this discussion off in another direction.. again.
You suggested if I am looking for the cheapest price then it is not at Amazon, because they charge sales tax, totally oblivious to the fact that everybody charges sales tax. They are doing you a favor by taking it up front, that makes doing your taxes much easier. You have to pay it even if they don't charge it.

I also never said, or demonstrated that I am more important that anyone else. I told you facts, that you disagree with, and that is fine. You have said multiple times that there is not customer service in online sales, and it's about lower price (which paying or not paying sales tax is reflected in the final bill)... and I have proven you wrong
You've tried to brag about your fancy job and businesses multiple times as if it has anything to do with this. You have not stated any facts, only opinions that you cannot backup. You have "proven" nothing.

I also have proven to you with the same material that consumers will pay more to get good customer service, 7 out of 10 or 70% of customers to be exact (which is more than present in online sales, again in the links I gave you), which proves you wrong that people are about low prices, and nothing else.
Now you're contradicting yourself...you also tried to claim 38% of people shop at Walmart for no other reason than they are poor and have no other choice. 70% plus 38% = 108%. Hopefully your "business" didn't involve math.

Yet, you are the one who started arguing and disagreeing with me.
It takes two to argue. And I assume you will try to argue about this post.

People will pay more for customer service which is present in online sales (again the links I supplied talks about this), which means that the final total on the bill is not the deciding factor.
As somebody who makes their living in online sales, I can tell you that is bullshit. They are very much concerned about the total price. (Item+shipping+handling+taxes) And of course this thread is full of people complaining that their final total bill with Newegg is now higher than it used to be.

Now, I will say it one more time.. Lets agree to disagree, and please don't ignore that request again. Thanks.
Is that a threat? What are you gonna do about it? I do not agree to disagree, you are simply incorrect and can't handle being told so.
 

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Ok people. Three things:

Stay on topic.
Use report post.
Don't use report post because you disagree with someone.

Got it?
 

sirmonkey1985

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newegg seems to be lacking in the deals because of this... the savings are lost.

i mean it's pretty hard these days to do meaningful deals when amazon just prices matches it within a couple hours of your deals email going out..
 
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