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Discussion in 'nVidia Flavor' started by Renato, May 17, 2018.
Tom's using WCCFTech as their source
Lol. C'mon THW
Can we please skip the 1180 this year and go right to the Ti version? Ain't nobody got time for 10% performance bumps
The 3rd-party deliver steps is interesting to see. Espectially the following:
...If the board passes Green Light, a Partner Production (PP) VBIOS will be provided by NVIDIA.
I always thought the AIB created/tweaked the vbios. If I'm understanding this step, it means the final vbios is provided to the AIB from Nvidia. I suppose this means nV has tighter control over what's getting to the consumer. On one hand, this sounds good as it means an AIB isn't going to release an unstable vbios (unless nV screws it up); on the negative side, nV could potentially limit performance and play favorites among AIBs.
Last time that happened was the Fermi refresh, when the 580 was only 10% faster than the 480. Even the 780 was 20% faster than the 680 with the Kepler refresh. Volta/Ampere/Turing or whatever microarchitecture the next gen will be using is a new one on a smaller node, so I would expect at least a 30% bump from the 1080 to 1180.
They started doing this with Pascal, and we still got factory overclocked cards from every AIB.
I'm sure they wouldn't kill factory OC'ed vbios's, but what I was getting at was nV could potentially treat an AIB that PO'ed them e.g. didn't sign RDD in a "less equal" manner by forcing them into a lower clocked OC than their competitors. Again, I'm not sure how the vbios is agreed (and if AIBs are provided some form of heat/clock/failure curve to decide from), but it raises the question...
he was measuring 10% from a 1080ti to 1180 not a 1080 to a 1180.
LOL @ the Comment section,
"I already know the names of all the upcoming GPUs.
GTX 1180 Wallet Hurting Edition
GTX 1170 A Little Easier On The Wallet Edition
GTX 1160 Wish I Could Afford One Of The Higher Editions Edition
GTX 1150 Poor B*stards Edition
And there you have it, folks. The suspense is over!".
Anyways, I'll believe it when I see it. As for AMD cards? Who knows, when pigs fly?
The reason why it was only 10% was because the 480 and 580 GTX were the same chip. The 780 to 980 was a different chip, Just like the 980 to 1080 was a different chip. And just like 1080 to the rumored 1180 chip will be too.
You're right. We should wait for a 12% gain.
Without stiff competition, unfortunately I think we are going to continue small incremental increases.
Come on nVidia, give us SFF folk a Titan ITX...!!!
no point buying the 1180. If last year is an example, Nvidia will rape your wallet with 1180 make you wishing you just waited and grabbed 1180 ti for 100 more lol!
but if the 1180 truly has 3500+ cores I do suspect it to be little faster than 1080 ti. 1180 ti will probably be bring full chip under the hood.
I just laugh that they keep comparing the 1180 to the 1080....to make it look good, its hardly any faster than the 1080ti by the looks of it
Not sure why they don’t feel like they can compare to the TI, that’s the current fastest card and that’s all I’m interested in knowing how it performs against, so far it does look like the 1180ti will be the one to wait on
Why do people keep throwing 10% around? The cores in Turing are different than Volta and Pascal. If Titan V is your baseline you are doing it wrong. Turing is a different set of cores.
That’s what they always do. They compared the 1080 to the 980. It’s generally the mid sized die so it makes sense in that regard.
They may claim it’s “the new king” and price it stupidly high like they did with the 1080 too.
Will there be a big jump in performance per watt?
Then he's doing it wrong.
Which is why I said "Fermi refresh" and "Kepler refresh." The performance jumps during the 3-generation reign of Tesla were even lower.
Organizationally, for the product line, GTX 1180 will be the direct replacement for GTX 1080
Optically, from a marketing standpoint, they don't want to compare their new "flagship" card (cough, cough) to another prior-gen card when they are close in performance.
Will they mine well? If so, maybe the price of 580's will go down to where I can afford one!
"In terms of pricing, whispers say that NVIDIA is looking to charge more for the GTX 1180 as compared to the GTX 1080, with some sources quoted as saying to expect a price tag of around $699"
don't hold your breath for that low a price on the street because that may be MSRP but we know the GTX 1070 was $350 MSRP and sold for more and that was before the mining craze hit. I'm guessing it will cost $760 to $799 for the first year with left over stock GTX 1080's like EVGA FTW holding at $600
1080 effectively launched at $699 so it wouldn’t surprise me if the 1180 was $699. It’s more of a question if they’ll increase it considering current market conditions...
Right, "Effective" i.e. market priced is not the same as MSRP. If MSRP for 1180 is $699 (which it almost certainly will be, IMO), the "effective"/market price will without a doubt be higher (and who knows how much higher in this market). I think we're looking at an $800+ card at the end of the day for the first few months after release.
The high price of the 1180 will likely keep costs up on 1080 tis (both in primary and secondary markets) . Springtime for NVidia, winter for gamers and miners.
Just release already!
Thread should be nuked for this reason alone. Those clowns have no shame in hyping stuff to get some clicks.
And then the elusive one becomes available: 1180Ti Fuck Your Retirement Saving Edition
What was the biggest early adopter tax? Regular 780 was $649 in May 2013 and the 970 was faster for $329 in Sept 2014.
That was already released, as the Titan V, now when they release a $2000 GPU we'll all rejoice at how it's 33% cheaper than the $3000 gpu!
Naw, thatst the Titan V: Don't Even Need A Retirement Account Later On Edition.
They always compare it to the base model of the prior gen. They compared 1080 to 980 not 980ti. I think the reason is performance per watt. Aren't the ti versions usually less efficient? Also, I think people on a GTX1080 are more likely upgrade candidates than people on GTX1080ti, so the comparison is relevant to more people. Most people on GTX1080ti will not upgrade to GTX 1180 because they are on on the ti upgrade schedule. Just MHO.
I am waiting for the
The 1080Ti used a different chip, much larger die, it was basically a Titan lite. The 1180 will be a replacement for the 1080 using the small die, so that's the best comparison.