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Mass Effect 3 Discussion Thread
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For those saying this is a 40 hour game... I have no idea how it would take you that long. I did everything and listened to every line of dialogue and it only took 25 hours through my first playthrough. I'm 11 hours into my second playthrough on hardcore and probably 2/3rds of the way through it right now, I expect maybe 15-16 hours out of it, but I'm skipping the dialogue because I've already heard it all.
I ended with a readiness score of ~6700 the first time around, I missed out on a few things like the hanar diplomat quest which bugged out, and didn't manage to save Kelly.
I ended with a readiness score of ~6700 the first time around, I missed out on a few things like the hanar diplomat quest which bugged out, and didn't manage to save Kelly.
Ion Silverbolt
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I am at 24 hours in and I am guessing that I'm half way. I am playing on Insanity with a Vanguard though. The battles can last a bit longer on that diff. Also, I missed some of the timed quests because well. I didn't know there was a timer...
Extreme spoiler:
Extreme spoiler:
At the half way point, I decided to start over because of the missed quests, and the fact that Tali did a swan dive off of a cliff when I saved the Geth. To be able to get the desired outcome, you need full Paragon or Renegade. Also, I want to do the missing quests.
Overall, Bioware has done a fantastic job when it comes to the fps elements. The Rpg elements on the other hand.. I think the dialogue and characters are much improved over the previous ME games as well. However, Bioware will alienate some of the rpg fanatics. ME3 is what I would consider very dark sci-fi. Considering what I have seen so far, I'd be surprised at a happy ending no matter the outcome.
That I think is also a mistake. After pouring time into all three games, there should be a sense of reward. This game however might make some people reach for the anti-depressants.
Overall, Bioware has done a fantastic job when it comes to the fps elements. The Rpg elements on the other hand.. I think the dialogue and characters are much improved over the previous ME games as well. However, Bioware will alienate some of the rpg fanatics. ME3 is what I would consider very dark sci-fi. Considering what I have seen so far, I'd be surprised at a happy ending no matter the outcome.
That I think is also a mistake. After pouring time into all three games, there should be a sense of reward. This game however might make some people reach for the anti-depressants.
Riddleofsteel
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That sucks. The more I hear about this, the more I wish I had waited until a mega sale in a year or two instead of buying it off GMG. I can't even play it yet...
ninjaturtle
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I'm 45 hours in at Horizon full paragon and most of the quest done.
TwistedAegis
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So after that trouble I had with the Amazon d/l and install via Origin - just got an e-mail from Amazon apologising for the issue, and giving me a code for one free EA game, with the choices being:
Dragon Age: Origins
Mass Effect
Dead Space
Mirror's Edge
I have them all except Mirror's Edge, which I actually wanted to get. As much as people bitch about EA/Origin, in the past year or so I've gotten several free games, which I've enjoyed greatly: Got ME2, Dead Space 2 and now Mirror's Edge, all for free. Not bad!
Dragon Age: Origins
Mass Effect
Dead Space
Mirror's Edge
I have them all except Mirror's Edge, which I actually wanted to get. As much as people bitch about EA/Origin, in the past year or so I've gotten several free games, which I've enjoyed greatly: Got ME2, Dead Space 2 and now Mirror's Edge, all for free. Not bad!
Well, it's fun...
But when I got ME and ME2, it was literally all I did with my free time until I beat them the first time. My fiancee actually gave me a hug one minute to midnight, and said she'd see me in a week.
I got home from work today... and... forgot... that I had ME3... I didn't remember for hours.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
But when I got ME and ME2, it was literally all I did with my free time until I beat them the first time. My fiancee actually gave me a hug one minute to midnight, and said she'd see me in a week.
I got home from work today... and... forgot... that I had ME3... I didn't remember for hours.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
How long did the first two take you?
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I got one as well but I own keys for all of these games!
I might have to make an FT post...
Haha, I didn't want to do vanguard again. What a PITA that slow motion is. I should have tried adept or engineer.
it's an integral part of playing infiltrator, you are basically specialising in extreme damage through sniping and/or melee, using cloak to play position and close distance. this is the strongest class in the game group-wise imo, and the only one I really like since it makes best use of all the tactical mechanics we got. so build your squadmates to fill exact roles with tech/bio/arms, then have them make openings and combos for you to rack up the kills. you can build without sniping focus and still be pretty strong using melee/arms/bio, but that would be a waste since your default biotics and weight limits are not meant for this.
vangaurd is not a sniping class, if you don't like sniping why do you keep using it lol...
Yeah, I usually use a shotgun with a vanguard. The slow motion is annoying because I'm not used to it. I'm used to real-time headshots. It's weird to have to shoot --- pause --- reload --- shoot again.
I'm thinking about using shotgun with the infiltrator. Tactical cloak, get close, and head shot with shotgun.
Ending spoiler: Don't read if you haven't finished
Finished ME3 today, and I am very disappointed with the last five minutes of the game. The first red flag that something stupid was about to transpire was when Shepard began to have those inexplicable dreams about a small boy on fire. If a game ever starts to use metaphors, as is the case with the boy on fire, prepare your anus, because you are about to be rectally screwed over by some pseudo intellectual bullshit! That said, the blue star child is beyond ridiculous, and his reasoning behind the reaper invasion is illogical. Case in point, the Geth and the Quarian fighting together against a common enemy. EDI and Joker. Both prove that synthetics and organics can co-exist. What pains me the most though, is no matter what path you take, the end result renders the entire story a moot point. Every choice you made was all for not, as it has no effect on the ending what so ever. Also, a BIG WTF on the Normandy bugging out with my squad members on board. I guess they didn't get cut down in the final push and Joker swung down and picked them up while leaving my dead corpse on the ground
The official forums have a post from BioWare's Chris Priestly on a problem some users are having importing character faces from Mass Effect 1 or 2 into Mass Effect 3:
"We are aware that some players are having issues importing the faces of characters from Mass Effect 1 or Mass Effect 2 into Mass Effect 3. The issue is likely in how faces were detected when imported from Mass Effect 1 into Mass Effect 2, and were working on the best way to correct it for affected players.
We have determined that faces importing incorrectly is an error with how codes were detected when transferred from Mass Effect 1 into Mass Effect 2 and then on into Mass Effect 3 or importing a Mass Effect 2 saved game with New Game +. The Mass Effect team continues to investigate fixes for these issues and they are top priority concerns for everyone here"
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9661093
"We are aware that some players are having issues importing the faces of characters from Mass Effect 1 or Mass Effect 2 into Mass Effect 3. The issue is likely in how faces were detected when imported from Mass Effect 1 into Mass Effect 2, and were working on the best way to correct it for affected players.
We have determined that faces importing incorrectly is an error with how codes were detected when transferred from Mass Effect 1 into Mass Effect 2 and then on into Mass Effect 3 or importing a Mass Effect 2 saved game with New Game +. The Mass Effect team continues to investigate fixes for these issues and they are top priority concerns for everyone here"
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9661093
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What is up with the constantly spawning enemies unless you keep moving forward?
I try to play it safe sometimes (sniping or just covering my ass) and not rush in since that's just not how I play, yet Bioware doesn't like that all of a sudden? Call of Mass Effect? While I'm on the subject of combat, I feel like a psychic in that I can amazingly know when each combat sequence will start ("Alright, let's flip thi-- oh gee, here comes Cerberus"). I really am curious to sit in on a meeting where they decide the pace with which they plan all the combat areas in a given level.
Hell, maybe I just encountered a spawning glitch, but it's happened more than twice. I love the game and all, but I don't like the direction combat has gone. It felt just fine in ME2.
I try to play it safe sometimes (sniping or just covering my ass) and not rush in since that's just not how I play, yet Bioware doesn't like that all of a sudden? Call of Mass Effect? While I'm on the subject of combat, I feel like a psychic in that I can amazingly know when each combat sequence will start ("Alright, let's flip thi-- oh gee, here comes Cerberus"). I really am curious to sit in on a meeting where they decide the pace with which they plan all the combat areas in a given level.
Hell, maybe I just encountered a spawning glitch, but it's happened more than twice. I love the game and all, but I don't like the direction combat has gone. It felt just fine in ME2.
Yeah, I'm tempted to turn the difficulty level ALL the way down so I can just get through the ridiculously repetitive and boring combat - I know I'm going to win the fight anyway, and killing 300 Cerberus Troopers in a row isn't 'fun'. No, an achievement popup telling me that I've now killed 5000 enemies doesn't make it fun either.
Also, it's no glitch - I noticed it relatively quickly. In a lot of scenes, the slower you go, the more spawn. I tend to cloak and run the furthest I can up, wipe out all but one, cloak and run up again, finish him, and many times I don't get a second wave. It's stupid though, it's not how I played my character in ME1 and ME2 (as a cautious sniper) - the game forces me to be more 'Rambo' than I'd like to be.
Something interesting. I have the mouse sensitivity turned down pretty low. Something like 15 or 20, can't remember. BUT, it works fine in game, navigation, aiming/shooting, all fine. When I go to scan a planet. It's balls slow. Even turning up my DPI doesn't help that much.
How do you fuck that up?
How do you fuck that up?
I don't know. In ME2, it was max-speed limited, so it didn't matter AT ALL what your mouse settings were or how vigorously I swiped it across my mousepad. ME2's planet scanning was balls slow too, but you could buy an upgrade to go from balls slow to barely tolerable.
Unfortunately they seem to have removed the upgrade from the game (or I haven't found it yet....) and it's stuck at balls slow speed.
I dunno. I got the upgrade in ME2 as well, but if I turned up my DPI it was just fine(even pre-upgrade). Someone said in another forum that you can use the wasd keys to move the planet. Will have to try next time.
Thankfully you're not scanning resources for a few minutes at a time. Just follow the arrow hit the X and move on. So it's sort of bearable.
I just finished the Grissom Academy mission and damn they never seemed to stop spawning...I tried rushing forward but that doesn't really work as an Adept because there's not always cover...plus they always seem to deploy those turrets every few seconds or lob grenades...game is definitely more difficult compared to the 'Normal' difficlulty setting of the previous games
they don't respawn on an endless loop as you can hang back and kill them all but it definitely takes time and patience
Yeah that mission was a pain on insanity.
It took me a couple of tries before I figured out there were some stairs in the second part of the atrium area. They lead up to an area where it's easy to pick the enemy off from a distance. There's just a couple of guardians to handle and you're basically home free. I also LOLed at Jack's weird-ass haircut. It really grew fast for 6 months.
This game is getting excellent. I revoke my previous opinion The sheer atmosphere of war, hopelesness and incoming doom I only met in Warhammer universe. You see planets raveged by reapers, where few defenders are still fighting, even if they see no chance for victory. Politicians just ignore soldiers and pleas for help, they just do what they think they should - cower, discuss and don't take any rational decisions. Fugitives are filling still safe places, where local folks start hating them, and don't want accomdate those who flee. Resources dwindle, hospitals are full, and people loose hope.
Bbanter on streets is great, like the chat between human female and her Asari mistress, when they talk, how the human is going to tell her husband - soldier, who's on front line, that she is leaving him for Asari.... some banter around how afraid they are to fight, nurses talk about situation in hospitals. Even Shepard is barely seeing chance to survival and he and his friend, along with rest of humanity are desperately hoping for one lucky strike.
Masterly done Bioware, masterly done. Never seen such greatly pictured society during war since some good books and movies. There is never only glory and heroism. I feel like seeing "Letters of Iwo Jima", "Flags of our fathers" and "Thin Red Line" again
The sheer atmosphere of war, hopelesness and incoming doom I only met in Warhammer universe. You see planets raveged by reapers, where few defenders are still fighting, even if they see no chance for victory. Politicians just ignore soldiers and pleas for help, they just do what they think they should - cower, discuss and don't take any rational decisions. Fugitives are filling still safe places, where local folks start hating them, and don't want accomdate those who flee. Resources dwindle, hospitals are full, and people loose hope.Bbanter on streets is great, like the chat between human female and her Asari mistress, when they talk, how the human is going to tell her husband - soldier, who's on front line, that she is leaving him for Asari.... some banter around how afraid they are to fight, nurses talk about situation in hospitals. Even Shepard is barely seeing chance to survival and he and his friend, along with rest of humanity are desperately hoping for one lucky strike.
Masterly done Bioware, masterly done. Never seen such greatly pictured society during war since some good books and movies. There is never only glory and heroism. I feel like seeing "Letters of Iwo Jima", "Flags of our fathers" and "Thin Red Line" again
***semi spoiler question***
in ME1 I romanced Liara and in ME2 Miranda...I ran into Miranda at the Citadel in ME3 and she asks me something along the lines of if I want to continue our relationship...if I say no then she says she has things to take care of and walks away...if I say yes then she tells me how her sister is missing etc...I want to be able to do that mission so can I say I'm still interested in a relationship and then later on change my mind and go back to Liara?
meaning can you waffle back and forth on romances until the very end of the game or do you get locked in from the beginning?
in ME1 I romanced Liara and in ME2 Miranda...I ran into Miranda at the Citadel in ME3 and she asks me something along the lines of if I want to continue our relationship...if I say no then she says she has things to take care of and walks away...if I say yes then she tells me how her sister is missing etc...I want to be able to do that mission so can I say I'm still interested in a relationship and then later on change my mind and go back to Liara?
meaning can you waffle back and forth on romances until the very end of the game or do you get locked in from the beginning?
I can sort of see why people are so upset about the DLC now. It feels like it belongs in the game.
My experiment with the shotgun is a failed one. I'll have to go back to the Sniper rifle and just deal with the slow motion, even though it screws up the timing on my shots.
My experiment with the shotgun is a failed one. I'll have to go back to the Sniper rifle and just deal with the slow motion, even though it screws up the timing on my shots.
FadedSpark
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read the spoiler.
You have to remain faithful to liara. Either NO romance in ME2, or Romance Liara in Shadow Broker DLC.
but in previous ME games you can go back and forth between different females (during conversations) but the romance only becomes 'official' after you have sex late in the game...so it doesn't work that way in ME3?
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well, i romanced liara in ME1, tali in ME2, went back to liara in ME3 and also managed to knock up that reporter chick once ^^ worked out pretty good.
except for the ending of course, which anal raped everything...
except for the ending of course, which anal raped everything...
the mission wasn't that great (until the end) but seeing Kasumi return and your interactions with her really make it fun...was this mission exclusive to those that played the Kasumi DLC or does everyone get it?...the more I play the more I'm appreciating how well BioWare has implemented and finished character arcs and storylines even for minor characters...seems like they really did have everything planned out from the beginning which is a very rare thing...another example of this in ME3 is when you encounter the Shepard VI which was a small dialogue option in ME2 when you talked with Mouse and told him to stop selling the VI...seems like the more you are familiar with and appreciate the ME universe the more you will really come to appreciate ME3
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Agreed, the end is what made it good.
Heh, I'm glad Shepard knew better; I thought Bioware killed her off right then and there. I was going to complain that Bioware had gotten lazy.
I was also happy to see a nice resoultion to the Kasumi greybox storyline...in ME2 I chose to have her keep the greybox as it apparently held some important info which could implicate the Alliance...they wrapped the story up in a very satyisfying way
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I may have to rethink buying this game if there's buttsechs in it......
Wow, how DUMB can EA be?
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9689886/1
Basically, you can play online, and if the HOST (not the player) has modded his game to give credits, etc your account will be "flagged" for credit exploting and will be banned.
Not only does this stop you from playing MP, but it also locks you out of SP and the game entirely.
That seems so stupid, that you can even get banned because of someone elses modding of the game and simply having the bad luck of being matched with them in an online lobby.
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9689886/1
Basically, you can play online, and if the HOST (not the player) has modded his game to give credits, etc your account will be "flagged" for credit exploting and will be banned.
Not only does this stop you from playing MP, but it also locks you out of SP and the game entirely.
That seems so stupid, that you can even get banned because of someone elses modding of the game and simply having the bad luck of being matched with them in an online lobby.
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I mentioned this as a fear a while back when discussing the modding of the files here.
Honestly though,
the ending is soooooo fucked and without a single redeeming quality since no previous choices really matter and all the endings are the same basically
Really though, what does EA care? They've got your $60-80 in the bank and now they dont need to support you as a player. Win/Win for them.
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To be fair though, he says he can't play any of his SP DLC either. That sucks.
soulesschild
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Seemingly dumb question but I ordered the CE edition. Is the DLC "From Ashes" already included in the SP story line or do I have to open it and play it somewhere else?