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Love your socket 754?

It could also be a heat issue Big Mac, some processors will just fail no matter what once they hit a certain temperature.
 
Smooth as buttah in HLDM. Upgraded sig on the way!

And I do believe that it probably is a heat issue. Prime95 gets the cpu far hotter than any apps I own.

Sweet! S754 RULEZ!!!

New numbers as of Sat. AM
234x12cpu-z.jpg

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sisandra234x12.jpg
 
Yep, OCCT will turn it up to 100% Usage and really show you whats cookin' :)
 
Nah - I don't use Prime95 as my true test anyway. I use HLDM and HL2DM games. If it runs stable in these games (and maybe F.E.A.R.. in the near future) for 3-4 hours at a session then I am happy. I don't push it anywhere near what Prime95 does. I know that is sacreligious to some. Oh well.
 
Is this good enough to get me into the socket 754 club?

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I've only had this new $72 CPU for a couple of days but I think it's starting to break in now. ;)

I might have to turn my CPU fan up above 2000 rpm to go higher. It's not Prime stable at this level but I was able to start up PhotoShop and paste this picture into it. Long live s754.
 
This is the max for my combo. I have 512 M of Crucial Ballistix in my closet that likes to run at 290 MHz but at 2T. It might not get me much compared to my OCZ 1 MB Platinum which runs at 1T.

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The best my AM2 at 2809 MHz could do with DDR2-667 memory was 33.422 seconds. The AM2 had a little more overclocking head room but it's not worth upgrading quite yet!
 
Nicely done on that 3000+. I couldn't get mine past 2.65. Nice superpi score as well.
I set my 3400+ to 234x12 but it froze in game so I just set it for 230x12 and it runs all day.
BTW - what mobo do you have?
 
I'm using a Gigabyte K8NS-Pro.
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/M...w.aspx?ProductID=1783&ProductName=GA-K8NS Pro

If the Pro version is not available then the regular K8NS will do just fine:
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/M...rview.aspx?ProductID=2275&ProductName=GA-K8NS

The only difference between the Pro version and the regular version is the Pro version includes 1394 firewire, two extra SATA ports and a total of 4 IDE sockets. I think you can run more than 10 hard drives with this thing!

The regular K8NS is just as overclocking friendly and is dirt cheap:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128259

I've got this combined with an ATI X800XT graphics card and even without the graphics card overclocked it is a good gamer:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8999819

I originally tested my new Athlon 3000 at 2560 MHz which is the same speed that my Sempron 2600 used to run at. I'll post a picture later on but going from 128K of cache to 512K gave me over 10% more FPS in some of the low res tests. I'm definitely happy with this new chip.
 
aldamon said:
unclewebb said:
it's not worth upgrading quite yet!
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This should be the slogun of the Socket 754 Club!
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QFT!

Well, these chips might still kick total ass, but most of us are going to want to change up our motherboards to something with PCIe. I've been meaning to ask, do we have any s754 SLI setups in da house, or do I have the honer of being the first one here to give it a shot with 2x 7600GT's? :D

I wanna see somone here do Quad SLI 7950's on s754 just to spite the 939 and AM2 bunch. :evilgrin:
 
unclewebb said:
I'm using a Gigabyte K8NS-Pro.
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/M...w.aspx?ProductID=1783&ProductName=GA-K8NS Pro

If the Pro version is not available then the regular K8NS will do just fine:
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/M...rview.aspx?ProductID=2275&ProductName=GA-K8NS

The only difference between the Pro version and the regular version is the Pro version includes 1394 firewire, two extra SATA ports and a total of 4 IDE sockets. I think you can run more than 10 hard drives with this thing!

The regular K8NS is just as overclocking friendly and is dirt cheap:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128259

I've got this combined with an ATI X800XT graphics card and even without the graphics card overclocked it is a good gamer:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8999819

I originally tested my new Athlon 3000 at 2560 MHz which is the same speed that my Sempron 2600 used to run at. I'll post a picture later on but going from 128K of cache to 512K gave me over 10% more FPS in some of the low res tests. I'm definitely happy with this new chip.
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I had an nf4 Gigabyte board and had to send it back because it wouldn't oc past 214 cpu frequenct no matter what I did and I tried everything. That's when I decided on the Abit NV8. I like it so far - especially the additional ram divider settings (DDR433, 466 and 500), The NV8 is a PCI-e mobo and I have a Sapphire X800Pro VIVO board that can be bios flashed to X800XT/PE speeds.
 
With the F12 BIOS, the K8NS Pro lets you run DDR500 memory at full speed but because I'm always overclocked I don't have much use for that option.

Here's an interesting comparison. I did a 3DMark2001 benchmark first with my Sempron64 2600 overclocked to 2560 MHz and then with my Athlon64 3000 also at 2560 MHz. They are both E6 Venice core processors. Everything else was kept exactly the same for both runs.

It's easy to see exactly what going from 128K cache to 512K cache will do for you. The light grey is the Sempron and the dark grey is the Athlon:

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At high detail that extra cache is good for 8% to 9% more FPS and at low detail the first test shows an increase of almost 15%.
 
Since I am running a venice that maxes at 2.4... wouldn't a 3700+ claw be better since it's 2.4 stock and has 1mb L2? I know I can't afford that and it's an old chip anyways lol.
 
Nice comparo. I've sometimes wondered what the differences would be between a Sempron and an A64. I'll bet the 256k L2 cache Semprons would be closer still.

The 3700+ Claw is a nice cpu - I have one at work in my cadd system oc'd to 2.58 and it runs just fine, albeit a bit hotter than the Venice (about 10C). 130nm vs. 90nm SOI. The 90nm Venice is more power efficient.

BTW - I have DDR400 Crucial Ballistix that I run on the DDR500 divider. It makes a difference in my Superpi 1M times of 4 seconds. :eek:
Ram speed on my setup is optimally 288.75 mhz.
 
I removed 1 GB OCZ Platinum and replaced it with 512MB of Crucial Ballistix.

The Ballistix is rated CL2-2-2-8 at DDR400. Best performance for me is at CL2.5-3-3-8 but with the frequency cranked up. It will run as high as 290 MHz but the only negative is that it needs a 2T command rate to go this fast on my board.

I overclocked my Athlon 3000 back to 2820 MHz and ran the memory at 282 MHz but unfortunately it couldn't equal my previous best. I was about 0.25 seconds slower in SuperPi compared to the OCZ memory.

Not one to give up I decided to do a suicide run at 2850 MHz and managed to beat my previous best. That's AM2 / DDR2-800 territory for a fraction of the price.

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I ran a 29s SuperPi 1M with my Venice @ 2.91 :cool: , ran 32s @ 2.75, could be a little off since I dont have the system right now.
 
I found my Athlon on ebay, new in a box, for $72.
If you do a search for:
Athlon 3000 754
or
Athlon 3200 754
you will find lots of 'em.

Remember to get a Venice core with one of the following part numbers.

ADA3000BXBOX or ADA3000AIK4BX
ADA3200BXBOX or ADA3200AIO4BX

Fab51 is a great website for checking out AMD part numbers:
http://fab51.com/index-e.html

I was also very lucky on ebay and found a new AMD heatpipe cooler for $8.99! Nobody wants this old junk. ;)

The Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro also works excellent and it's reasonably priced if you want some beter cooling without a lot of noise.

Here's how my Athlon 3000 did when running Prime:

xxxx MHz @ volt - result
2658 MHz @ 1.55v - fail
2658 MHz @ 1.60v - OK
2672 MHz @ 1.60v - fail
2672 MHz @ 1.65v - OK
2684 MHz @ 1.65v - fail
2684 MHz @ 1.70v - OK
2704 MHz @ 1.70v - OK
2754 MHz @ 1.70v - fail

This is typical of any processor as it reaches its limit. When you need a big % increase in volts to maintain stability then you know you've hit the wall.

Those voltages are what I selected in the BIOS. CPU-Z reports that when I selected 1.70V it actually increased it to 1.712V. Plus or minus a little bit is typical for most boards. The unusual thing about the Gigabyte board is that it automatically adds on approximately 0,05 volts to the CPU under full load which is great for increased stability.

On the left side is my combo running under no load and on the right it is running Prime.

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1.776 volts is getting a little excessive but it hasn't caught fire yet so it must be good! :cool:


BigMacAttack: Can you post a A64 Tweaker screen shot for your system? There might be a little more performance for you hiding in your memory settings. Are you running two sticks of Crucial Ballistix or just one? The Gigabyte board is great with one stick of memory but it falls on its face when using two sticks.
 
I have posted a screenshot of A64Tweaker here
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=224629&page=2
You'll have to scroll on down the page to find it.
There is also a screenshot of my best ever Superpi run taken at a 235x12 oc. I can't get to 240x12 as the system is totally unstable and will not boot into Windows. I'm still gonna try for a suicide shot at 240x12. I'm just going to have to really tweak it.
I'm using 2 sticks (512mb each) of the Ballistix. At the high ram dividers I have to be very careful on my timings. The least little adjustment can cause the system to lock up. 1T command rate is totally out of the question as it is highly unstable at that setting at these ram speeds. I'm really amazed this Ballistix can operate at such high speeds. It was a good investment for the price.
 
unclewebb, that's very very similar to what i got on mine. I can run at 2.7 at 1.66v, it's pretty stable but it glitch a bit in Oblivion so i guess a bump to 1.7 or 1.75 would get me a stable setup. However, heat is a issue and i prefer a cooler setup to a faster one so I settled at 2.6 for now.

I can clearly see the wall when we need big bumps in voltage to get a few tens of Hz up.

BigMacAttack, it's a very nice overclock but what is the temps you are getting at those speeds, under load ?
 
In Prime95 the max I saw it hit was 57C. Most of the time it was 55-56C. In gaming situations (Half-Life Deathmatch) it hits mid to upper 40'sC is all.
 
BigMacAttack said:
In Prime95 the max I saw it hit was 57C. Most of the time it was 55-56C. In gaming situations (Half-Life Deathmatch) it hits mid to upper 40'sC is all.
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That's nice, similar to my temps :) We see it's a nice deal for a 3400+ :)
 
Sorry to be OT, but I'm a 754 user who is looking to move to a PCI-E motherboard. I'm looking for ATX, and not SLI. It's also got to fit my ninja, so if you guys have any suggestions, please post em here! Thanks.
 
BigMac:

Like oicurafox2000 said on the xtreme board:

"Open up cpu-z before A64 tweaker so I can see the real values of your memory."

CPU-z and A64 Tweaker don't get along well together and cause each program to display some bogus results at times. Re-run A64 Tweaker when you get a chance and make sure the first value, CAS Latency, is displayed properly. You should see a CAS Latency value of 2.5 with your Ballistix.
 
My 3400+ just arrived! Here's the manditory pics:

Here's me getting the feel for macro mode on my camrea :p:


Wow, this came out good (and so clear!). I normally photograph landscapes, but this might come in handy.


Edit: Resized the pics down from 2592x1944 to 1600x1200 to save some bandwidth for ImageShack.
 
Go get 'em Unknown! I hit 2.82 (235x12) max. so far but it isn't stable. Best max stable (not Prime95 - just game) oc I have gotten is 230x12. I have also hit 255x11 (2805). After that she's all done.
BTW - that pink foam padding looks familiar :D
Be sure to check all the pins really closely, I had 1 slightly bent and had to straighten it. It wouldn't seat correctly so be extra careful!
I see you have an 0524 date code as well. :cool:
 
I was too excited when my Athlon 3000 arrived that I never had time to take a picture. :(

Here's the important info in case anyone wants to compare:

ADA3000AIK4BX
CBBWE 0610CAD
 
Ok, I'm starting up at stock just to make sure I'm running ok. The install took way longer then it should have because I have to remove my motherboard to pull my hs/f off (BigTyphoon). I laso took the opertunity to lap the Typhoon, there was a circle about 2cm across right in the center that wasn't making contact with the processor's heatspreader :eek:. no wonder my temps weren't steller.

Stock CPUz Screenshot.
Ignore the voltage reading, CPUz isn't reading it correctly...BTW, what is this thing's stock voltage? 1.4v or 1.5v?


Edit: It's doing 2.5GHz out of the box at stock voltage, this is going to rock after coming from a 3000+ newcastle :D
Edit2: 2.65GHz with +0.05v over stock, so far so good.
Edit3: 2.7GHz after giving it +0.075 over stock.
 
BigMacAttack said:
1.4v is stock voltage
Sweet clocks. I wish I'd get one to do that. What mobo do you have?
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Motherboard is an EPoX 8NPA-SLI (nForce 4 chipset).

Hmm, this thing has some quirks to it though. 2.7GHz is totaly stable with 0.1v over stock (So thats 1.5v), but I cant get 2.8GHz no matter what I do.

2.7GHz works at 12x 225MHz or 10x 270 (166MHz RAM divider)...Not sure what way is better, both get me 2.7GHz and both have my RAM running at DDR 450.
Idle has it at 35c and load gets it up to 45c, I'm so glad I got the Typhoon lapped!
 
Oh yeah - I forgot - you already mentioned that - DOH! :eek:
Just goes to show how different each one is. I have to bump voltage after 210x12 but can go on up to 235x12 (for kicks). You don't need to add much voltage at all but it tops at 2.7. I'm really surprised it won't go to 230x12. You mentioned that your voltage was limited though, didn't you? You'll need at least 1.6 to get on up to 230x12
 
The bios was being stupid with my Newcastle because it was so old and limiting my voltage options, now that I've got a Venice in there I've got voltage out the ass (up to 1.75v).

I've got it at 2.7GHz (12x225), but I'll try 2.76 (12x230) and see how much voltage it takes. I'm surprised it made it to 2.7 so easily, but won’t do 2.8 even with 1.75v

Edit: I've got it at 2.76GHz, I needed to add on another 0.05v (total of 1.55v) to get it to boot, but I'm not stable.
Edit2: Still not stable at 2.76GHz with 1.6v, and I'm afraid to go higher...I'm going to drop it back to 2.7GHz at 1.5v unless you guys have any ideas.
 
Mine did 2.75 with 1.55v, must be the board. All in all, we need some DFI equipment in here if we want proper clockage ;) , either that, or find a damn good alternative. I was making 20 mhz increments in HTT and still clocking, it was so easy I was about to faint. Can't believe people are kina struggling with it.
 
Unknown-One said:
The bios was being stupid with my Newcastle because it was so old and limiting my voltage options, now that I've got a Venice in there I've got voltage out the ass (up to 1.75v).

I've got it at 2.7GHz (12x225), but I'll try 2.76 (12x230) and see how much voltage it takes. I'm surprised it made it to 2.7 so easily, but won’t do 2.8 even with 1.75v

Edit: I've got it at 2.76GHz, I needed to add on another 0.05v (total of 1.55v) to get it to boot, but I'm not stable.
Edit2: Still not stable at 2.76GHz with 1.6v, and I'm afraid to go higher...I'm going to drop it back to 2.7GHz at 1.5v unless you guys have any ideas.
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how are you raising the volts to 1.7 on an 8NPA?
 
noobtech said:
how are you raising the volts to 1.7 on an 8NPA?
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Well, the board lists voltages as +0.025, +0.05, +0.075, all the way up to +0.25 (manual says it will go up to +0.350 but it depends on what processor you put in it).
so if I was adding correctly...wait, stock voltage is 1.4.

Crap, scratch that, I was still adding it up with a stock voltage of 1.5. That means I can only push it up to 1.65.
 
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