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Love your socket 754?

MOC said:
I need help ,This chip is from March 2004 ,but never installed untill today ,new in box
Was installed in a DFI 250GB UT-NF3.Modded xp-90 ,G.Skill ram.
First boot I went for it ,after going into bios first ,booted right up @ 2814Mhz, HTT=255, HT.04 ,1.6v ,2.9v ddr.So after letting it go for 3 hrs. running OCCT ,all stable.
I decided to change multi ,but no go ,cannot leave 11x under any combo of voltage or
multipler ? tho when in 11x I can go up and down at will ,even had it at 2919Mhz ,but then got out of it to try other settings! So at least it clocks pretty good ,But why can't I chenge the Multiplier..thanx for any help.


Specs are : 3400+ Clawhammer
AMN3400BIX5AR
Version 2.6
Revision SH7-CG
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All recent processors are upwards-multi-locked (with the exception of the overpriced Athlon FX series). You can turn the multi down, but not up. This is to prevent manufacturers from raising the multi and selling it as a higher class chip.
 
I see what your saying but (I don't think I explained it correctly ) I cant go into 10x,9x,8x,7x
6x,5x .lol you get the idea 11x multipler is it ,will not let me ,either it just reboots ,or does nothing if i try to go to a lower Multiplier. I thought for shure I could get into 10x or 9x ..Thanx
 
MOC said:
I see what your saying but (I don't think I explained it correctly ) I cant go into 10x,9x,8x,7x
6x,5x .lol you get the idea 11x multipler is it ,will not let me ,either it just reboots ,or does nothing if i try to go to a lower Multiplier. I thought for shure I could get into 10x or 9x ..Thanx
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Oh...well that is strange 0_o

Turn off C&Q (Cool and Quiet) if its on in your BIOS, and maybe search for an updated BIOS ROM.
 
My 3400+ Clawhammer allows downward multi changes in my Asus K8V but my 3700+ Clawhammer does not - even with a bios update.

You may try flashing to a newer bios to see if it will help. All the A64 cpu's are enabled for downward multuplier cahnges. If you can't change the multi then there is most likely a bios problem and you need to flash to a newer bios. I think my problem is my K8V bios was never updated with the 3700+ Clawhammer in mind since that cpu came out well after the mobo hit the market and Asus (yuck) never kept up.
 
Yeah - tell me about it. My 3400+ Claw has no such problem. I should grab this 3700+ out of my work system, take it home and slap it into my Abit NV8 and see what happens but its running along so well I hate to mess with it.
 
Thats what I'll do then ,the bios that are in the board now are 9/14 2005 from Oskur Wu,
and they were modded by him soley so this DFI mobo would boot with a mobile !
* fix- 3 power cycles to get moble/dtr to post, now post instantly (same as oskar 9/14)
* 4.0vdimm w/ a PSU 3.3v rail mod as discribed above...
I Just downloaded newer bios ,and I am going to flash it right now ,be back to tell ya what
I found out .
 
Well, I got that massive Arctic Freezer 64 pro installed on my CPU. I tested fans a few times with it just plugged into power on the kitchen table - no monitor - and when I hooked everything back up and booted it, I found the RAM divider setting had went back to default again somehow, putting the ram at 484! :eek: For some reason this board has done that to me a few times.

I fixed it and booted to windows, just to get a "your system has recovered from a serious error" message.

I left it running the prime95 torture test overnight to make sure everything is OK.
 
Is there any new retailing socket 754 mobos that support Mobiles? I just upgraded my second comp to a venice chip and have a extra 3400+ mobile I wanted to pass down to a friend, but I cant find a decent priced socket 754 board that supports mobiles.
 
Well with the freezer pro installed and burned in for a night or so with prime, I went ahead and pushed the box to 1.65v. I still couldn't get a single little bit higer than 1.682ghz with 1.55v.

I did an overnight prime while I was sleeping for about 10 hours at 1.6998ghz at 1.65. Found the chip was at 48 C which is the hottest I've ever seen it. Stable though.

I bumped it a few more notches up to 226x12 to 2.712ghz before leaving for work and left it priming at home.

I wish there was a 1.6v setting on my board, I feel nervous running 1.65. It tends to run a bit voltage high too, around 1.67v-1.68v or so.
 
Still tweaking around with the venice 3000+ on water. I have been able to put into windows all the way upto 3.0ghz but I have problems getting prime stable at anything higher then 2.78ghz. Any tips you guys can give on memory settings voltage settings etc to get a higher OC prime stable? I have a DFI nf3 250gb.
 
You shouldn't be worrying about RAM overclocking at the same time as CPU overclocking. You should declock the RAM while figuring out your max CPU overclock.
 
I am an active honorary 754 member, as my 939 rig is running on a single stick of memory. :D One of my OCZ sticks is erroring out on me for some reason. :( It was running stock too, which is why the death is so odd. Oh well, gotta call OCZ tomorrow if I remember. Until then, single channel ftw!

 
nullzero said:
Is there any new retailing socket 754 mobos that support Mobiles? I just upgraded my second comp to a venice chip and have a extra 3400+ mobile I wanted to pass down to a friend, but I cant find a decent priced socket 754 board that supports mobiles.
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As far as I know the DFI's are your best bet, even though they may not "officially" support mobiles I have heard through AMD's tech dept. that they do. Other than that, I got nothin' for ya.
 
alas gents I must bid you a fond farewell and move to 939 land. I was in search of dual channel memory and fast venice processors that are cheap right now and have found them! 754 you gave me everything you could but its time to move on.

regards
 
yes i may be moving on also not too much better things but for the money i have a hard time refusing...Opty 165 for $155 and brand new MSI Neo nforce 3 AGP 939 mob for $50......With some car parts i had layin arround and sold them off and make 150$ for 50$ i cant say no.....Ill probably part with my 754 proc/mobo and purchase a bigger drive....
 
Well even with the freezer pro and 1.65v I couldn't get stable any higher than ~2.71ghz. The extra heat & voltage wasn't worth it to me so back down to ~2.68ghz I go.

I've been eyeing up the cheap 939/am2 deals but I've yet to see a deal that shows enough value to bother. I still have no real use for dual core and there's no guarantees that cheap 939 would overclock any higher than my current venice chip.
 
GreenMonkey said:
Well even with the freezer pro and 1.65v I couldn't get stable any higher than ~2.71ghz. The extra heat & voltage wasn't worth it to me so back down to ~2.68ghz I go.

I've been eyeing up the cheap 939/am2 deals but I've yet to see a deal that shows enough value to bother. I still have no real use for dual core and there's no guarantees that cheap 939 would overclock any higher than my current venice chip.
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Most 939 3700's can get to 2.5-2.7 on air. Plus you have 1MB L2. At 2.6 it's essentially an FX-55.
 
A few percent increase from dual-channel and some extra cache isn't going to get me to invest about $100 for a CPU, board, and the couple of hours or so of tearing my computer apart and reinstalling windows. ;) Minus whatever my spare parts would sell for on ebay.

I'll be interested when the dual core chips get cheaper. Maybe then there will be games that actually use it. ;)
 
i am moving from sempy 3400 (equiv a64 3000+) to venice 3800. It was only $86 for a retail version. This is part of a plan to move to vista in Feb. I am not a gamer, but just felt since I am moving to vista I should get myself to at least a "low" end system, up from "basement" level. :)


regards
 
You'll definitely need the extra muscle for Vista. I'm still standing pat since I don't have a need for Vista or dual core as yet. The Opty 165/170 and new mobo are tempting but not necessary. It all depends on what one needs and what makes one happy. So for now I'll keep plugging away with the old reliable754's.
 
BigMacAttack said:
You'll definitely need the extra muscle for Vista. I'm still standing pat since I don't have a need for Vista or dual core as yet. The Opty 165/170 and new mobo are tempting but not necessary. It all depends on what one needs and what makes one happy. So for now I'll keep plugging away with the old reliable754's.
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I run Vista 5744 as my main OS on my main Venice 754 without any issues. It's also very fast for my taste. The key is to have enough memory and having 2 Gb does help.
 
Well I messed around with 4 bios that are sappose to be the cats meow .
And went back to the 1st ones ,but for the last 4 days 2814@255Mhz .1.6v
That blows me away . Ram is 166 divider (no problem ) It's MHZ always .
2008 I'll upgrade nothing happening out there till then anyway .
 
Hey I need help. I dropped in a 3400+ in hopes of giving my 754 rig one last big push (and OC :D ) before I move on to the next best thing but I am having issues. If you care to respond with ideas I have an ongoing thread here:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1081241

Seems my MB may not support the Venice Core? Or I just don't know what the heck I am doing?
 
754 doing well with Vista in my system. Got a 3400+ 754, 2 gigs of PC3200 (DDR400) RAM, and a Radeon X1600 512MB. Using a Blue Orb II I can get a decent overclock on the chip too. Without hardly any tweaking I can get a 400 megahertz gain with the processor running only a few degrees hotter, I'm considering upping the voltage to make it higher.
 
I disconnected my three hard disks (I don't want to mess with my current Windows install in any way) and plugged in an extra 80GB drive to test Vista on.

Windows Vista x64 installed in 15 minutes flat, that was nice. Vista x64 feels faster than XP x32 by a long shot. Drivers are a big issue right now; my Audigy 2 and 7900GT were running on beta drivers, and there were no drivers for my scanner, printer, webcam, or video capture card.

Well, that sucks...ok, so on to Vista x32!

The install wasn't as fast; it took nearly 30 minutes before I was presented with my desktop. Once again I resorted to beta drivers for my Audigy 2 and my 7900GT. Windows XP drivers worked for my scanner, webcam, and video capture card. I got my printer to print by going through a generic driver, but if I ever want to print photos again HP will need to get real drivers out.

Ok, Vista x32 works well enough (not as snappy though), let’s try a few programs:

Nero 7: Just like XP
Office 2003: Just like XP
Alcohol %120: Crash
Bit torrent: Just like XP
Oblivion: Just like XP
GTA San Andreas: Crash
NFS Most Wanted: Crash
Quake 4: Just like XP
BF 2142: Artifacting

At this point I plugged my other hard disks back in and booted XP to make sure my video card was ok (it was). Vista has some serious issues with BF 2142; I was doing 5 FPS, transparency was borked, and the sky was green 0_o

Not all my software works, back to Windows XP (thank god I got Vista for free through my collage). Sucks that I wasted all night on this, I realy wanted to move up to Vista.
 
I feel a Microsoft OS is in extended beta testing generally until the first service pack. I won't touch it until that point.
 
BigMacAttack said:
You'll definitely need the extra muscle for Vista. I'm still standing pat since I don't have a need for Vista or dual core as yet. The Opty 165/170 and new mobo are tempting but not necessary. It all depends on what one needs and what makes one happy. So for now I'll keep plugging away with the old reliable754's.
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Word....maybe around the end of 2007 I'll build myself something new, but not til then...I get to play around with all of the new stuff setting up rigs for other people, so it's not like I'm missing out....
 
I lost my pic but back when the Newcastles just came out i got one which im still using and a Epox motherboard and i got my HTT to 330 which is amazing on a old cpu like that
 
Loving my new 22'' LCD on the ole 754. Too bad the 3400++ CG is kinda slow now on the new res. will a 3700++ make a difference?
 
Not really. In fact, a review I read a long time ago when the 3700+ Claw came out comparing the 3400+ Claw to the 3700+ Claw actually had the 3400+ winning in more than a few benches. I bought the 3700+ Claw anyway and have been really happy with it but both cpu's overclock the same amount (less than 10% over stock in the same Asus K8V mobo). Its a 200 mhz difference and is virtually unnoticeable.
If you want to see a difference get the 3400+ Venice (if you can find one anymore for a decent price) and overclock it. The 3000+ Venice is a nice overclocker too and at around $56 at Newegg is a good value. You can get 2.6 to 2.7 out of them with some voltage and a good hsf. My 3400+ Claw went to a max of 2.4 so you just have to consider if the Venice is really worth it or not. I tried all 3 flavors of the Venice (3000+, 3200+ and 3400+) and they all overclocked to about the same level for me - 2.65 to 2.75. It was fun playing with them to see how high they would go but if I had to do it all over again I'd have stuck with my original plan of going to s939 and an Opty 144/146 last Jan. Oh well....
 
BigMacAttack said:
Not really. In fact, a review I read a long time ago when the 3700+ Claw came out comparing the 3400+ Claw to the 3700+ Claw actually had the 3400+ winning in more than a few benches. I bought the 3700+ Claw anyway and have been really happy with it but both cpu's overclock the same amount (less than 10% over stock in the same Asus K8V mobo). Its a 200 mhz difference and is virtually unnoticeable.
If you want to see a difference get the 3400+ Venice (if you can find one anymore for a decent price) and overclock it. The 3000+ Venice is a nice overclocker too and at around $56 at Newegg is a good value. You can get 2.6 to 2.7 out of them with some voltage and a good hsf. My 3400+ Claw went to a max of 2.4 so you just have to consider if the Venice is really worth it or not. I tried all 3 flavors of the Venice (3000+, 3200+ and 3400+) and they all overclocked to about the same level for me - 2.65 to 2.75. It was fun playing with them to see how high they would go but if I had to do it all over again I'd have stuck with my original plan of going to s939 and an Opty 144/146 last Jan. Oh well....
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Thanks dude, great reply. :)
 
2 years ago i orderd my 3400+ Newcastle and DFI Lanparty from the egg....Happy birthday to them
 
Isaacav2 said:
Loving my new 22'' LCDs on the ole 754. Too bad the 3400++ CG is kinda slow now on the new res. will a 3700++ make a difference?
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Loving my new dual 22" LCDs on the old 754. Vga with one montor looked good using onboard video also. Happy 1 year B-day to the old 754 parts on the system. The egg sold me the original parts for only $400 one year ago today.
 
Single 22" widescreen here. It's my first wide screen, and I must say, the wider FOV in games was well worth it.

Edit:
OMG! this is my 2048th post!

I just became 2[H]4U!
 
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