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Just bought an Alienware

Alienware's are OK but they are huge monsters that make tons of heat.LAN place where i live has 20 of them its sooo hot in that place.....
 
ColinR said:
I'd like to see the Alienware machine benched (just 3DMark2001SE and 05 would be enough) and a comparison against someone else's machine of identical spec. The naysayers then need to factor in the time taken to get the scores eg, build time, OS install time, tweak time vs just plugging in an Alienware.
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This isn't brain surgery. Buy the parts, install the parts into the case, shouldn't take more than an hour or so to do a good job if you have any sort of experience. Install the OS and the drivers, do a little overclocking, and some small RAM timing adjustments in the BIOS. Defragment the hard drive. Then start benchmarking. There's no magical wonderful happenings at the Alienware factories that makes them somehow faster just because they "Tweaked them" and doing it yourself will take extremely little time.
 
Epicenter said:
This isn't brain surgery. Buy the parts, install the parts into the case, shouldn't take more than an hour or so to do a good job if you have any sort of experience. Install the OS and the drivers, do a little overclocking, and some small RAM timing adjustments in the BIOS. Defragment the hard drive. Then start benchmarking. There's no magical wonderful happenings at the Alienware factories that makes them somehow faster just because they "Tweaked them" and doing it yourself will take extremely little time.
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Exactly. I couldnt have said it better my self.

Its not like you have to Sodder chips and capasitors on some silicon and shit. Putting a computer together isnt rocket science. Ever play with Lego's when you were a kid?

I dont find alienware bad, just expensive. I look at it this way. They are top end computers, but if you get one, you are not an enthusiast and shouldnt be on these forums. You just bought a PC all made for you, with no work other than signing the dotted line to pay for it.
 
USMC2Hard4U said:
Exactly. I couldnt have said it better my self.

Its not like you have to Sodder chips and capasitors on some silicon and shit. Putting a computer together isnt rocket science. Ever play with Lego's when you were a kid?

I dont find alienware bad, just expensive. I look at it this way. They are top end computers, but if you get one, you are not an enthusiast and shouldnt be on these forums. You just bought a PC all made for you, with no work other than signing the dotted line to pay for it.
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I'm pretty sure I'm an enthusiast. I've spent the last 6 years of my life around computers. Just because I purchased an Alienware, I'm not an enthusiast?
 
aironite said:
I'm pretty sure I'm an enthusiast. I've spent the last 6 years of my life around computers. Just because I purchased an Alienware, I'm not an enthusiast?
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So what made you go with an Alienware then. I know you've sad finacing before but that seems kinda pointless when you could have had another computer with finacing give you the same rig for $1000 cheaper.
 
Skrying said:
So what made you go with an Alienware then. I know you've sad finacing before but that seems kinda pointless when you could have had another computer with finacing give you the same rig for $1000 cheaper.
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A computer with a faster, cooler, more overclockable CPU, *TWICE* the RAM, *TWICE* the HDD capacity, *2* 6800 GTs and not 1, and a better, quieter power supply, quiet 120mm fans and case and the same LCD panel even. :D

To quote Lowtax at Something Awful:
I recently made the mistake of spending way too much money purchasing an Alienware computer, under the false assumption that "if I pay more money for something, that means it has to be better!" Well in the case of Alienware computers, paying more money for their product simply means that the object you're purchasing will cost more than something which costs significantly less. First off, the computer is approximately 19 feet tall and encased in a metal box which weighs more than both my buttocks together. Secondly, the fans on the system are so loud that I have to turn up Winamp to the maximum volume possible just to drown out the nonstop deafening white noise pumping out of its rear. That wouldn't be such a problem if it wasn't for the fact that Winamp causes my entire system to crash for no discernable reason. Other programs which cause my Alienware PC to crash include (but are not limited to) Dreamweaver, Flash, Outlook Express, Photoshop, and Windows XP. Additionally, it's physically impossible to turn off the PC because when you shut down Windows it simply reboots and never turns off unless I remove the power cord.

Once the computer decides to jump back into Windows XP, I'm always greeted with a friendly "Microsoft Windows has recovered from a serious error" message, requiring me to send Microsoft an error report, which puts the blame on an indeterminate driver that apparently shipped with the computer. Then, after I get done sending off the error report, I am presented the wonderful opportunity to re-download the same Windows Critical Update which has been downloaded and installed at least once every day for the past week. I guess Microsoft and Alienware have joined forces to make sure nobody can ever hack my computer through a strategy of always making it crash whenever I try to either boot it up, shut it down, or accomplish something in between the two. Keep in mind that I have only been using this PC for less than a week now.

In summary, don't buy an Alienware PC. They are incredible ripoffs and don't function correctly. I bought an Alienware PC because I thought it would be more stable and reliable than my old Dell, but I found out its quite the opposite. I guess a stable, quiet system costs more than a few thousand dollars, because Alienware sure as hell didn't bother building me one. Go get a Dell or, better yet, save your money for something which crashes a lot less than an Alienware PC, which is virtually any object on the planet with the possible exception of Dale Earnhardt's death car. Yes, I know I'm stupid for spending so much money on a new computer when I simply could've built my own for a cheaper price, but I heard good things about Alienware. It's a shame none of them were true.
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This speaks volumes about Alienware's touted "extensive tweaking" and "perfect driver configuration" they rave about having done at the factory. And indeed, Alienware machines ARE that loud because your average box uses 4 80mm fans, loud, fast, whiny 80mm fans, when slower bigger 120mm fans produce 1/3 the noise, or less .... and that's not even including the damned 80mm power supply fan, and the loud Intel cooler.

gg Alienware. :p
 
Epicenter said:
A computer with a faster, cooler, more overclockable CPU, *TWICE* the RAM, *TWICE* the HDD capacity, *2* 6800 GTs and not 1, and a better, quieter power supply, quiet 120mm fans and case and the same LCD panel even. :D
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No clue what you're talking about. That's what he could have gotten from another place. Not what he got from Alienware......
 
Skrying said:
No clue what you're talking about. That's what he could have gotten from another place. Not what he got from Alienware......
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.... that was exactly my point, dude. Monarch. I specifically mentioned the machine at monarch with those specs.
 
Epicenter said:
.... that was exactly my point, dude. Monarch. I specifically mentioned the machine at monarch with those specs.
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But you quoted me for it. Which makes no sense. I was saying at some place else he could have gotten that.
 
Skrying said:
But you quoted me for it. Which makes no sense. I was saying at some place else he could have gotten that.
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I was backing you up, not arguing with you. It's called quoting for truth.
 
you could have gotten a LOT better deal by shopping around
either way, that's a nice machine, enjoy it
 
A computer with similar parts costs more from monarch that mine does after rebates. Keep in mind I cancelled the alienware 20.1" monitor so my total came out to 2360.00 before rebates.. That makes it 1860.00 after rebates.
 
aironite said:
A computer with similar parts costs more from monarch that mine does after rebates. Keep in mind I cancelled the alienware 20.1" monitor so my total came out to 2360.00 before rebates.. That makes it 1860.00 after rebates.
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well that drops the I_CANT_BELIEVE_YOU_PAID_THAT_MUCH_FOR_AN_ALIENWARE crap because frankly 1860 isnt THAT bad its only about $350 higher than it should be
 
oops, 1,718.00 rather. Bad math :)

Btw, this includes HL2 and XP professional. I'm sure if I were a warez junkie this could be mega savings, but, I don't like to steal ;)
 
aironite said:
oops, 1,718.00 rather. Bad math :)

Btw, this includes HL2 and XP professional. I'm sure if I were a warez junkie this could be mega savings, but, I don't like to steal ;)
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shit thats even better
 
see if we where talkin a Boxx instead of an Alienware you probably wouldnt have heard near as much sniping

more than a few people take exception with some of alienware's sales points
 
here is my AW

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Yes I own an Alinware and Voodoo.

Both are really really good and yes i build my own too

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only reason that i am posting this is because even though i have only read a little bit... all i want to say is dont bash if you dont own/know
 
:eek: :eek: :eek:
*drools*

Nice. System.
You guys really need to stop ragging on him, he made a perfectly fine decision and obviosly doesn't care that he payed a little extra for the ease of a prebuilt.
Again... :eek:
 
alienware does build good systems......... but somtiems support can be s @I@O$#@#&@(&@)&@)(*@)@*)*@(*#(*&@(&@(^(#&(*@&#^(^@(&#)&#(*&@)&#)*@)^)&#@)(@*&)(@*)(@#($#@#&)(*$#&)(*#&)(#&)(@&*&#)& as you can see i am still a little mad :D
 
you have to add a few more neo lights in your case and i was also useing a special night cature method..

but it is possible... my room really really glows at night :D
 
why should you bash the kid for buying alienware based on money, its not your money, what do you care lol
 
Epicenter said:
This isn't brain surgery. Buy the parts, install the parts into the case, shouldn't take more than an hour or so to do a good job if you have any sort of experience. Install the OS and the drivers, do a little overclocking, and some small RAM timing adjustments in the BIOS. Defragment the hard drive. Then start benchmarking. There's no magical wonderful happenings at the Alienware factories that makes them somehow faster just because they "Tweaked them" and doing it yourself will take extremely little time.
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I do know how to build a PC and I never said they did anything magical to their machines. All I'm saying is that all the stuff you're talking about takes time that you won't need to do to an AW machine. It all depends on how much value you place on your free time, and whether you consider OS install, driver installation, defragging a valuable use of said time.

Presumably, you just plug in the AW machine, let it install the remainder of Windows (30 minutes max I guess), and you're good to go. Stuff that you have to do to own-build plus about two hours of other crap (more if you have to diagnose a problem eg. flash bios to get dual channel ram working as I had to).

Its a balance each person needs to make. AW requires less user time and costs more. On my current wage, I don't consider it worth it, but if I was paid more and had less free time, it might fit the bill.
 
You could purchase a very similiar desktop with the exact specs and a 20in wide screen LCD for about 2,000. Dude maybe you should get a dell?
 
Just a little update. The PC shipped and will be here on Wednesday. I received my Dell 2405FPW on Saturday. This thing is a MONSTER!!! I just wish I could see it's true beauty. All I have is a Dell i9100 w/ 9700 mobility dvi out
 
Wednesday? Sweet, your getting a computer on MY birthday... too bad Im not getting anything but tired... tired after staying up all day doing NOTHING on my 19th birthday... :(
 
Trust me on this... get a GeForce 6600GT if you can. I came from a crappy ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, and it's one hell of a difference in IQ and ease of use (nVidia's drivers are a bliss). In your case you should see an even better improvement. :)
 
Epicenter said:
This isn't brain surgery. Buy the parts, install the parts into the case, shouldn't take more than an hour or so to do a good job if you have any sort of experience. Install the OS and the drivers, do a little overclocking, and some small RAM timing adjustments in the BIOS. Defragment the hard drive. Then start benchmarking. There's no magical wonderful happenings at the Alienware factories that makes them somehow faster just because they "Tweaked them" and doing it yourself will take extremely little time.
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Try seven or eight hours, just to get to the "install XP" bit (including flashing the BIOS a million times and reloading XP twice). :D Good learning experience though, I can't count it as cost.

IMO not a horrid price on the Alienware. I spent maybe $40 less (with Far Cry in addition to HL2) but had to get some groovy deals to get it that low. Plus I have substandard memory for OC'ing (but two gigs of it). And some expensive deals too--BFG 6800GT, DFI SLI-DR and a 3700+ San Diego padded the price nicely, thanks. And the extra grand for the 2405. :cool:

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1c3d0g said:
Trust me on this... get a GeForce 6600GT if you can. I came from a crappy ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, and it's one hell of a difference in IQ and ease of use (nVidia's drivers are a bliss). In your case you should see an even better improvement. :)
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I hope you're right about the nVidia drivers. Mine's my first non-ATI card so it's uncharted territory for me. Far Cry doesn't like something (but I need current drivers before I can say for sure what it is.)
 
1c3d0g said:
Trust me on this... get a GeForce 6600GT if you can. I came from a crappy ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, and it's one hell of a difference in IQ and ease of use (nVidia's drivers are a bliss). In your case you should see an even better improvement. :)
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Crappy 9800pro? :rolleyes: Actually, ATIs drivers are suposedly better now.
 
My few opinions (like they matter)

1: Youre parnets are rich mothertruckers
2: Youre a rich mothertrucker
3: I hate you for having better stuff than me ;)
4: That case is brighter than my local theatre
5: I need upgrades, tell your parnets to cut me a check plz kkthx
6: whoever flames someone cause they spent more is just tard.....serriously, he gets onsite service, and its already built, who cares, let him do what he wants and how he wants, what would you rather have, a car thats been tested by leet people who know what they hell they are doing, or someone who reads forums all day and thinks he knows what hes doing? /ass kissing off

to bright of a case :p

soulsaver_8229
 
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