Guys let's support AMD gpu, and boycott Nvidia, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI

Discussion in 'Video Cards' started by holden j caufield, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. Araxie

    Araxie [H]ardness Supreme

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    weird because wasn't AMD who was pushing Tessellation as the "future" right?. well no, it wasn't AMD it was ATI since TruForm up to TeraScale 2 with the HD5000 series.. so Nvidia had a superior Geometric performance was an Nvidia Fault?. Gameworks features hurt also Nvidia GPUs but just less than AMD Cards, which also it's not a huge drama anymore since polaris as the geometry performance was improved, don't like the performance drop? as you said above just turn it off.

    it's Nvidia Titan V a gaming card?. as far I know it's a Prosumer card with Gaming capabilities.. what's the problem with it?. I don't see it marketed for gaming and I don't see gamers rushing for it, any gamer know that the consumer Volta it's the one to pick to upgrade over current GTX 10XX series..in any case Nvidia Titan V it's a super cheap alternative to Tesla V100 cards to those who are entering in the realm of AI.

    GPP? I said lot of times before, this current 30% - 40% leap of performance between generations can't be achieved forever, Nvidia want to be seen as the superior and premium GPU vendor as they are, they don't want their GPUs to be in the same category as AMD products are, they want to be seen as exclusive and that's what GPP it's for, because they know there will be a point where things will get slow in the technological performance department and they want to be as far as possible from AMD, which also confirm that they doesn't care about AMD, enough to not want their brands of GPU together in the same category of AMD GPUs.
     
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  2. _mockingbird

    _mockingbird Gawd

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    Which one would you rather buy?

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($629.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Total: $629.99
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-16 12:17 EDT-0400


    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB Video Card ($899.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Total: $899.99
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-16 12:18 EDT-0400
     
  3. Digital Viper-X-

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    @ those prices, the 1080.
     
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  4. _mockingbird

    _mockingbird Gawd

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    I am waiting for somebody who joined so called "boycott" to justify spending $270 more.
     
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  5. AORUS

    AORUS Limp Gawd

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    Radeon
    Core Clock 1.25GHz Boost Clock 1.55GHz Memory Type HBM2 with TDP 295 Watts $899.99
    GeForce
    Core Clock 1.66GHz Boost Clock 1.80GHz Memory Type GDDR5X with TDP 180 Watts $629.99

    You can see what the gamers will choose over AMD
     
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  6. Pieter3dnow

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    It is simple the amount of money you spend now on a videocard that does not make sense is about principle not about price difference.

    Principle stood for something back in the day now we are stuck with consumerism which is the death for thinking about which company you are spending your money on.

    On principle certain Dutch retirement funds stopped putting money in companies which make land mines or tobacco or other questionable military options.
    Durability is more important then short term gains.
     
  7. Digital Viper-X-

    Digital Viper-X- [H]ardForum Junkie

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    You said rather , not which would you.

    I joined the boycott after GPP as well.

    IF you are in for a Gsync or Freesync monitor, then the $270 difference would be mitigated by the monitor cost.

    Anyway, I wouldn't buy either at those prices :)
     
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  8. _mockingbird

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    So, it's the FreeSync tax!
     
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  9. Digital Viper-X-

    Digital Viper-X- [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Sure, we can call it that. Either way, vote with your wallet, or one day you'll only have one choice :p
     
  10. 5150Joker

    5150Joker 2[H]4U

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    Wrong, Intel is entering the market so we don’t need AMD around.
     
  11. TaintedSquirrel

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    Booting AMD from the GPU market and replacing them with Intel is not reassuring.
     
  12. Digital Viper-X-

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    Yeah, we haven't heard that one before... When intel releases a working gaming oriented gpu that is competitive, I'll believe your comment.

    Additionally, What makes you think intel is making one when they literally just glued an AMD GPU onto their cpus? And why would intel , which has very little R&D experience in this field, end up being able to compete with either nV or AMD ?
     
  13. Dayaks

    Dayaks [H]ardness Supreme

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    I've actually been wondering if anyone has ever taken the mm^2 used by their iGPUs and extrapolated it out for say a 300 or 600mm^2 discrete.

    Intel might have an advantage with interconnects? It seems they do on the CPU side.
     
  14. Digital Viper-X-

    Digital Viper-X- [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Well, we can't really extrapolate performance based on size alone. :)
     
  15. AORUS

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    It would be nice if Intel was to release the first Quad core GPU over AMD & NVidia
     
  16. dook43

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    Don't know even where to begin with this comment.
     
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    See here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...-gaming-gpu-to-fight-nvidia-amd/#5d38600a3578

    It's why Raja joined Intel in the first place, to get their discrete GPU project underway. Intel is definitely coming and they are seemingly serious so I don't doubt they will have something decent by 2020. Whether it's enough to take on NVIDIA is very questionable but they should be able to steal enough AMD/NVIDIA engineers and/or license AMD IP to get competitive. Intel has its own fabs and has a net profit around 10x what NVIDIA earns so it won't take long for them to catch up and possibly surpass the competition; AMD is basically a nonfactor after 2020. GPP isn't NVIDIA being concerned about AMD, this is all about Intel.

    It is to me because now we can truly have competition in the GPU market rather than "wait till..." which has been AMD's mantra the last several years. I'm genuinely excited to have Intel entering the fray because we'll have two powerful and dirty companies battling each other and this is where consumers can win again. AMD is a dead garbage company, the best thing to do is for it to sell RTG to Intel and bow out of the market.
     
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  18. Shadowed

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    LOL, AMD selling RTG :ROFLMAO:
     
  19. dook43

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    Ignore list updated
     
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  20. AORUS

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    Intel made Quad core CPU Right! ;) So have an open mind if Intel was to release a first Quad Core GPU! in there new graphic cards that would push lazy AMD and NVidia from a single GPU to Quad is that easy to understand? Because why are we still in a single core GPU market when everything have been update over the years and moved on but not GPU, that why gamers had SLI better then single core & more ram but it didn't take off and now it dying and most games don't support it.
     
  21. dook43

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    Any other diamonds from this brilliant intellect?
     
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  22. AORUS

    AORUS Limp Gawd

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    It is good to see that Intel have come into the GPU market world it's a bit late but welcome none the less maybe it will push the prices down on AMD & NVidia over time.

    And it good that top GPU-mind. Raja Koduri left AMD for Intel to build Intel new GPU.
     
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  23. Araxie

    Araxie [H]ardness Supreme

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    Man if you don't know what the heck are you taking about please stop and don't say anything. Stop embarrassing yourself..
     
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  24. CaptNumbNutz

    CaptNumbNutz My Cannon Balls Sunk My Fail Ship

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    What are you smoking?

    CPU architecture is nothing like GPU architecture. Anything even remotely resembling what you might consider a "core" inside a GPU was introduced almost 15 years ago about the time when they started counting "Cuda Cores" and "stream processors". Even that analogy isn't completely correct, but it should give you an idea of how much more multi-task oriented a GPU is over any Intel CPU out there.
     
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  25. Gideon

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    Cool Intel can sign you for Larrabee 2 now with improved shit graphics performance :) Also you might need to clean up your keyboard after that last two lines, sounds like you fangasmed all over it.
     
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  26. Gideon

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    Neither as both are still way over priced, especially since I bought my 1080 for $425 just before the market went stupid on prices. But then again I am a patient person and I keep video cards until I feel the need to upgrade.
     
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    Careful. I got accused of attacking him when I asked him did he speak English.
     
  28. stashix

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    GPP is a really shitty idea from a consumer standpoint. Makes me wonder why they invariably try something like this when they have a big lead and a lot of good will based on that.
    Boycotting though? I'd like to upgrade to 4k next year and for that I'll want all the performance I can get.

    The other thing is - I think it's highly unlikely any of these companies will send me a check if hard times fall on me, so why should I care about them outside of getting the best possible product?
     
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  29. AORUS

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    So I can't have an opinion and freedom of speech on the forum is that what you are applying! also have an open mind for the future of GPU?, we need better graphic cards with more ram and faster GPU instead NVidia is slowing down the future IMHO why not have a change from a single GPU?



    I don't smoke anything, Yes I do know a CPU is nothing like the GPU I have been around computers for along time to know that in another words a CPU is the brain and GPU is the soul or am I wrong again. we can have our own different opinions on any topic in a reasonable way I like to think of the future not the pass and what is wrong of change!,

    are you applying a personal attack when I replied to you in a reasonable way.

    Where we go again on language.
     
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  30. stashix

    stashix Limp Gawd

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    You can have an opinion.
    That doesn't mean people have to pat you on the back when you spout retarded nonsense.
     
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  32. Araxie

    Araxie [H]ardness Supreme

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    Are you some kind of millennial? everything it's an attack, everything hurts your feelings.. are we all retrograde? lol.. if you don't know what are you talking or saying it's just better to not say anything, it's the best advice I can give you for any internet forum board or you will be constantly crying due " personal attacks". that's all I will say, there's a difference between having an educated guess and speak completely nonsense things, ignorance in this forum it's [H]ardly forgiven...

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  33. AORUS

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    And there is me thinking this is Computer forum is based on opinions and help others also make friends, What I can't expect is Personal attacks on language, race, colour in my life I have joined many Computer forums over the years but sadly some close down also joined camera forums, But you are soo quick to judge me based on what I write but you know nothing of me, instead you attack me because of what I write but I don't personal attack you or anyone. I didn't make the forum Rules if you want to ignore me that's fine just add me to your list because I don't add anyone to mine.

    have a peaceful day:)
     
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  34. AORUS

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    In your opinion yes!, Personal attack again I must be lucky today:)

    Very quick to judge and join the group of followers it's like been in 1962.
     
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  35. dook43

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    Back to the basics here, apparently.

    1. SLI and Crossfire are dead because it's too hard to program multiple GPUs to work together, the game development shops can't do it, and the GPU manufacturers aren't willing to supply the technical resources any longer to make it happen

    2. A video card with multiple GPUs would necessarily need SLI or Crossfire to work

    3. Intel hasn't produced a consumer "GPU" (I use that term loosely) since the i740

    This is why we're having trouble with your posts. This is a technical forum. You're distilling a difficult problem down to "wouldn't it be nice if company XYZ could do ABC" whilst misspelling words and using bad grammar.
     
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    Paying a studio millions of dollars (Rocksteady) to put invisible tessellation in a game (Arkham City) for no graphical benefit, just to hurt performance of the competition, is the type of thing that us gamers shouldn't tolerate. Yes, AMD has enabled the driver options to prevent performance from completely tanking in this scenario, but the damage had been done when launch reviews for the title came out.

    They are effectively attempting to prevent AMD from ever being competitive again by forcing AIBs to relegate AMD cards to second tier status by withholding marketing funds. This is illegal. There will be consequences. Get over it.
     
  37. AORUS

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    I don't use grammar full stop, was made to learn in school and had to use in university but sadly no point for me to use it anymore in my retired life. Ok if I misspelling a word why is it so important! many of the other members do the same on this forum so what's your point?

    And yes SLI is dying slowly also some games don't support it. so what. NVidia & AMD have ruled the market for far too long on GPUs so it would be nice to have Intel in the works or did I say that wrong!

    Shouldn't we get back on track with the OP! it's getting boring now on personal attacks :)
     
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  38. Maddness

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    I wouldn't hold my breath that Intel would make a highly competitive High end GPU. Not with Raja in charge. He has done fuck all for AMD in his time in charge. And it looks like his baby, Navi is not going to be the performance piece that many of us were hoping for. That's if some of the rumors are to be believed.
     
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  39. AORUS

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    It will not be at the high end GPU market but who knows in future, it was only shown online as a prototype with 1.5 billon transistors split between two chips one being the actual GPU and the other a field programmable gate array, compare that with GTX1080 TI had 12 billion transistors.
     
  40. IdiotInCharge

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    So Nvidia should be forced to provide marketing funds for AMD?