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You forgot the JC2 and Dirt 2 charts where it loses to the 570.
And it trails in JC2 and Dirt 2 - which is why I said "more or less"
Click the links that look like All permissions on a single page, No AA, No AF to get the FPS score graphs.Percentage difference reviews suck ass.
And it trails in JC2 and Dirt 2 - which is why I said "more or less"
Well even the review states that it might be a driver issue when it comes to these two games.
Yeah but these games don't really need the extra power. I easily maxed out Dirt 2 on a 5870. Metro and Crysis are much more important IMO.
I doubt its the vram, I mean 5870 with 2gb of ram rarely made a difference. While Vram helps I think it is more of architectural Enhancements at work.
Performance seems to be all over the place with the Radeon HD 5970. The type and level of graphical demand inherent to the specific game plays a major factor in performance as you might suspect. We do see some patterns in our testing that we can summarize when making comparisons to the GeForce GTX 580.
The largest issue we had was running into a video RAM wall with the Radeon HD 5970. There is 1GB of RAM available to each GPU on the Radeon HD 5970. This is simply not enough for the latest DX11 games. In F1 2010, now that it supports DX11 using DirectCompute and some fancy post-processing memory intensive 3D effects, we are experiencing a much more demanding game. The Radeon HD 5970 runs into a wall at 8X MSAA at 2560x1600 with all the effects turned up. Performance becomes erratic, inconsistent, and downright unplayable. at 8X MSAA. However, on the GeForce GTX 580, which has more memory on board (1.5GB), performance is smooth, and most importantly playable at identical settings.
Ture enough, although is Crysis still relevant, except that it is graphically demanding? Does anyone play Crysis any longer?
Yeah but these games don't really need the extra power. I easily maxed out Dirt 2 on a 5870. Metro and Crysis are much more important IMO.
§·H·ï·Z·N·ï·L·T·ï;1036566200 said:Which game is closest to BC2's game architecture in relative fps performance?
$299 MSRP in the states, I think.I suspect the 6950 will be $50 more then the 5870. Any recommendations?
It looks to me like the 6950 is trading blows with the 5870.
How much of a price premium will the 6950 justify over the 5870?
I have 3 twenty two inch 1680x1050 monitors I want to run in Eyefinity. I don't run dual GPUs and the top of my price range is about $300.
It seems to me 2560x1200 with 4xAA is roughly equivalent to 5000x1050 with 0xAA.
In the past the 2 Gig cards weren't really any faster at the higher IQ settings, until they started running at unplayable frame rates.
I'll be looking at the sales tomorrow to decide which card to buy.
I suspect the 6950 will be $50 more then the 5870. Any recommendations?
It looks to me like the 6950 is trading blows with the 5870.
How much of a price premium will the 6950 justify over the 5870?
I have 3 twenty two inch 1680x1050 monitors I want to run in Eyefinity. I don't run dual GPUs and the top of my price range is about $300.
It seems to me 2560x1200 with 4xAA is roughly equivalent to 5000x1050 with 0xAA.
In the past the 2 Gig cards weren't really any faster at the higher IQ settings, until they started running at unplayable frame rates.
I'll be looking at the sales tomorrow to decide which card to buy.
I suspect the 6950 will be $50 more then the 5870. Any recommendations?
get the one with the bigger GBs.
Looks like it's time for me to dump the 5870 and get a 6970. yay![]()
That is pretty interesting, so it matches the gtx 580 at higher resolutions for 140 less. I say its a winner.
Lol, you win this thread.
The largest issue we had was running into a video RAM wall with the Radeon HD 5970. There is 1GB of RAM available to each GPU on the Radeon HD 5970. This is simply not enough for the latest DX11 games. In F1 2010, now that it supports DX11 using DirectCompute and some fancy post-processing memory intensive 3D effects, we are experiencing a much more demanding game. The Radeon HD 5970 runs into a wall at 8X MSAA at 2560x1600 with all the effects turned up. Performance becomes erratic, inconsistent, and downright unplayable. at 8X MSAA.
AMD is launching its new Radeon HD 6970 and HD 6950. These two GPUs round out AMD’s high-end Radeon HD 6000 family of single-GPU video cards. Priced surprisingly low for the performance, these two cards are ready to to deliver solid value in the high end market place. Spending your holiday cash wisely, just got easy.
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Yeah but these games don't really need the extra power. I easily maxed out Dirt 2 on a 5870. Metro and Crysis are much more important IMO.
Is it still a considered a slider if every [H] reader has it pegged to the right?
Ha ha you jest but seriously...as i cut and pasted above..VRAM DOES matter at 2500x1600 with settings maxed..and THATS where we are seeing the 6970 doing better.
Ill cut and paste AGAIN.
5870's have been on sale a lot recently; $215 AR ($245 before rebate) a week or two ago.
That's a dual GPU card.
In [H]ard|OCP's ATI Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity 6 Performance Review:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/04/12/ati_radeon_hd_5870_eyefinity_6_performance_review/7
They concluded:
"If you are running ATI Radeon HD Eyefinity 6 as a single video card, the 2GB frame buffer is not going to help you much in high Eyefinity resolution situations. There are some exceptions, like AvP, but mostly you are going to be GPU limited and not able to tap the potential of the 2GB frame buffer. The real benefits of the Eyefinity 6 video card not realized until you combine it with another and enable CrossFireX."
That's why I'm trying to decide if the extra 1 GB RAM is worth it.
Maybe the real reviews will show more of a performance increase for the 6950.
Oh, no. Hype is always necessary.![]()
Newegg had a sale yesterday where for $290 (AR) you could get a 5870, a Corsair 650W psu, a Seagate 1TB hard drive and a $50 newegg gift card.
Manufactured hype by forum members with fud info got us to this point of......Meh
AMD is fine with having the value cards and processors, the same goes for next gen, but the hype machine will start up once again.
Price/performance winners have always been the true winners over "top performer at a premium cost". If it were reversed and Nvidia was the price performance champ, id say the same thing (look at all the Nvidia 460s and I5/750s that were sold and decide for yourself who one those battles).
Yesterday only? I cant find it.
If the hints at the the 6970 being the current price/performance champion...i dont think thats "finishing second"
Price/performance winners have always been the true winners over "top performer at a premium cost". If it were reversed and Nvidia was the price performance champ, id say the same thing (look at all the Nvidia 460s and I5/750s that were sold and decide for yourself who one those battles).