sharknice
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I love seeing numbers pulled out of orifices.
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Just because there is no source doesn't mean the numbers aren't real. 40 billion might be rounding it up, but the PC games market for 2019 was expected to be 35.7 billion.I love seeing numbers pulled out of orifices.
Just because there is no source doesn't mean the numbers aren't real. 40 billion might be rounding it up, but the PC games market for 2019 was expected to be 35.7 billion.
I don't know, you should look it up.And Steam's was what for comparison? 4 billion?
I don't know, you should look it up.
What would it change though? 4 billion, or 3, or 5? What's the difference? What point are you trying to make?
Epic's share would still be small despite acquiring a bunch of high profile titles as exclusives.
It is entirely possible that they could've gained the same share or more with a good faith approach.
What reality is that? That you can't do basic math? How is 200 million 10% of market share? It's not even 5% of Steam, and the entire market consists, of GOG, Origin, Uplay, and retail.Because Steam is what EGS is competing against so it's an actual meaningful comparison. Taking 10% of that market share in a year extremely significant. Steam has real competition now.
You can plug your ears and scream EGS sucks, but it doesn't change reality.
Because Steam is what EGS is competing against so it's an actual meaningful comparison.
How are they competing if they're selling timed exclusives?
the competition today is not for selling games, it is for getting games to sell. this is a good thing for developers because it opens another avenue of funding.How are they competing if they're selling timed exclusives?
What all these companies fail to realize PC games can do something no console player can. If we can't get it where we want we can just dl a cracked copy. I'm really not sure why companies limit themselves. They way it should be is put it $5 cheaper on egs and literally be no one would be complaining and it bet egs market share would go up and ever game that's been a egs exclusive would have sold more if on steamthe competition today is not for selling games, it is for getting games to sell. this is a good thing for developers because it opens another avenue of funding.
maybe not so much for consumers. everyone moans about epic, but people will really be crying if stadia gets big name exclusives because those WILL NOT be available except as streaming titles.
if you are going to steal shit then your views are absolutely unimportant in the matter. that is why so many games are console exclusives or a year delayed to PC.
developing games costs money, and if you are not going to pay anything then you are irrelevant.
Obviously there are a lot of abuses going on with big titles in the publisher/customer relationship but a lot of that gets heaped unfairly on small titles with no monetization BS who are just looking to survive.
As for cheaper... Metro was put on EGS $10 cheaper than steam and there was still endless moaning going on.
Mentioning something worse doesn't make EGS any better. That's a classic non-argument.the competition today is not for selling games, it is for getting games to sell. this is a good thing for developers because it opens another avenue of funding.
maybe not so much for consumers. everyone moans about epic, but people will really be crying if stadia gets big name exclusives because those WILL NOT be available except as streaming titles.
If you're not going to buy the game the question is why aren't you buying it, and the answer is because of EGS. Whether someone then goes to pirate the game, or simply treat it as if it didn't exist like me is completely irrelevant.if you are going to steal shit then your views are absolutely unimportant in the matter. that is why so many games are console exclusives or a year delayed to PC.
developing games costs money, and if you are not going to pay anything then you are irrelevant.
Obviously cheaper without exclusivity, that is the whole point. Gain market position by better pricing, not by brute force strongarm tactics. And BTW it was only cheaper in the US, for me in EU it was actually more expensive.As for cheaper... Metro was put on EGS $10 cheaper than steam and there was still endless moaning going on.
Farming simulator is out later today could be a good game remember when it launched a few months back on Steam.
I grew up on a farm on the weekends the most fun was probably riding though the farm field with a 3-Wheeler ATV tiped it over a few times.
Crying about the morality of piracy will fall on a lot of deaf ears no matter what. Its not as if piracy doesnt affect the whole gaming industry, consoles included. Devs/Game makers can complain about revenue and funding but as the customer I'm not going to care much if I'm forced into their box to be controlled and manipulated.
Also, as far as I know, Metro is the only game sold cheaper on EGS than it was elsewhere.
"reading is fundamental"What is this "most people pirate"? Are you talking about kids? Or people with no money? In my circle the coming of steam pretty much wiped out piracy. it made tons of games easily available to everyone and... the sales at the time made them affordable. There was no longer any need to burn tons of cds or dvds, to gamble with installing cracks or downloading access codes. All that crap went away and people were able to support developers/publishers that made the games they loved. Yeah, there is still lots of piracy going on. But I have to question the actual impact on the game market. People with no money... are not going to be buying games anyway. DVD collectors... so what.
CDPR just announced that they had finally had 5 mllion in sales through steam and would now qualify for the 20% rate.
Which, while cool, but if a mega game like that had to struggle for 5 million, then smaller developers are pretty much screwed
That only counts from october 2018, years after the game launched (not to mention they also sell on GOG as it is their own service)
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/here-are-the-next-three-free-epic-games-store-games/
Don't know why I buy shit anymore, stuff gets released for free faster than I can play it.