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See my pics, there is almost no glow on the Qnix, the VP2770 I had was the same. At the time I assumed I had gotten used to the glow which is why I haven't noticed until comparing the Qnix to the AH-IPS P242W.
Previous contact by myself with Eizo UK rep hints that the panel might be modified by Eizo. However the rep didn't want to go into detail over email and asked of me to call him for a detailed technical explanation. I however explained that I was not living in the UK and much prefered if he could send me the explanation via email. Sadly I did not get any reply to my request.
I just sent an email to Eizo asking about this, so maybe they will shed some light on the subject. Strangely they are very tight-lipped in emails, even about what panel is used, but I have found that if you speak to one of their tech people, they tend to spill the beans on some things. But not sure if they'd give any info on this, or even will followup with a tech person to call.
I believe one user, maybe it was SuperSnake, previously owned the NEC 2690, and said this compared pretty favorably as glow goes. I'd be interested to see a NEC 2490 owner compare them side by side. If somewhere local sold the Eizo with a good return policy, I'd compare them myself ... but nobody tends to sell these in stores.
Could someone please post some more information about the "PAPER MODE" of the EV2736.
Wondering if "paper mode" makes any difference, worth paying for the EV2736 if working with M$office applications ? Is it just catchy advertising or does it resemble Kindle Paperwhite in any sense (sure, different technologies, but how about ease on the eyes).
Would appreciate any info on the subject, especially if compared (text clarity, ease on the eyes) to VP2770.
Thnx
PS. read some reports about buzzing (which i absolutely detest), hope that's affecting individual units, not the whole batch.
You are welcome to post their answer here, if you get one. Both Supersnake and I are very pleased with the lack of glow on this display, he wrote about it in this post.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1039867815&postcount=97
They never replied back to me, or I would have. I also have asked them about the panels used in the 2133 and if the 2333 has a LUT, but never got a reply. I guess for consumer models they tend to be more tight-lipped, or figure it's not worth their time.
A while back when I had a question about a medical monitor, they replied in 2 days, and provided a manager's number to call with any questions. I guess they figured I was about to spend $2K+ on a monitor (which I wasn't).... so that was worth their time.
I believe NCX has stated that there are reports of some 2736s showing IPS glow. So now I wonder if it's a panel lottery, or revision, or some oddness like that going on.
I just got the EV2736 and am very happy with the quality control on this display.(I still have to calibrate and fiddle with the colors, so this post is more a quick impression regarding Eizo QC vs. other models) I have been through a bunch of displays before choosing the Eizo. Yes, I am picky, but I use my monitor for some photography related work, programming, as well as games, movies, web surfing, etc.
I am looking for my next monitor as well, how well do 1080p movies shown on 1440 res?
I have virtually no PLS glow!
Good, more confirmation, though it would be nice to have a few more confirmations. The lack of glow is a huge advantage for those who are not after a 1440p display with the lowest input lag (18ms signal delay measured by PRAD vs. BL2710PT 1ms and VP2770 7ms). However, if all of the EV2736W's are not glow free then I don't think it is worth 200$ more than the BL2710PT & VP2770 since both have slightly better overdrive (no overshoot ghosting), lower lag, similar color preset quality and USB 3 ports vs. the EV's USB 2.
According to this review the EV2736W will work with consoles with a DVI-HDMI adapter.
So I am wondering if I should play the monitor lotto again?
No, return it and get a U2713HM instead...j/k. Tried turning the brightness down to around 40% (130cdm/2-ish)? It will seem dim at first, simply go do something else for 15 minutes, when you return it won't seem dim unless your room lighting is really bright. If that doesn't work exchange it.
I have a 100w/1600 lumen equivalent Daylight/5000k (2700k=normal temp=nasty, dull orange light) CFL from Philips:
http://www.londondrugs.com/Philips-...Light-Bulbs---2-pack/L4360632,default,pd.html
set up behind my monitor since I find that even VA blacks are too light for dark room use and it helps hide screen-uniformity issues without creating glare.
Also.. I don't know if I should turn down brightness down from 100 to perhaps 80? My eyes are getting irritating. On my old U3014 it was 50/50 on brightness/contrast, however, on EV2736W it's 100/50 as of now.. I can totally feel the difference in color quality coming from Dell U3014 to EV2736W. TLDR: Can't decide whether I am happy or not with this monitor :/
It depends on your room lighting, but I feel 80 to 100 brightness is too high. I have my brightness set between 30 to 40. You will get used to it. I feel it's comfortable on my eyes.
Maybe someone else can comment on the input lag as I don't play too many FPS, but I would be interested nonetheless.
I have very little PLS glow as well, but have slight backlight bleed on top. Does yours have any backlight bleed?
I sit in a totally dark room. How can you set it so low? The image quality will be great reduced. I tried to set it down to 50 and ohh boy.. The screen got way too dark. Impossible for me to play with. I have set it now at 80%. As for the backlight bleed. I have nothing as far as I can tell. Only thing I got is a very small area of the IPS glow witch is nearly impossible to see. And trust me.. I am a critic regarding IPS glow lol
However.. What is input lag? In FPS games like BF4 I noticed a thing.. It feels like the monitor cannot keep up with the gameplay? Like it's "slow" ?
Hmmm... For some reason when I have it around 30 brightness, it actually still seems bright in a lit room. In fact, it doesn't get really dim until I go below 20. I may be missing something? Do you have your Eco Settings on?
Falconetti,
I spoke to Eizo tech support today and they told me that the EV2736 does not support hardware calibration which he defined as what happens when the colorometer accesses a board built into the monitor -as will some of their more expensive priced displays and my NEC 2690WUXI will do. He made it a point to say that the display can still be calibrated with a colorometer but the device would be making the adjustments via my computer's GPU instead of through a hardware board in the monitor. I'll install the i1Display Pro software and experiment with the colorometer over the weekend.
Supersnake
Are you 100% sure on this information. It is clearly stated on the manufacturer's description that it does support hardware calibration (if you buy the right hardware from them) right at the bottom of the page.
Stay within context, note how the Eizo technician defined 'hardware calibration'.
The Eizo EV2736 monitor is a Flexscan monitor and there is a distinctive technical difference in how they are calibrated versus the more expensive ColorEdge line of Eizo monitors.
Image Science has been offering digital imaging products, services and expertise to photographers and printers around Australia since 2001. In their January 2012 article entitled, they wrote.
How to Calibrate an Eizo Flexscan Monitor (with an Eye One Display 2)
Article Details Last Updated
10th of January, 2012
Eizo screens offer extensive calibration options, and we provide these notes as a guide to achieving a good calibration with an Eizo screen for general photographic editing.
The chief difference between an Eizo Flexscan line monitor and an Eizo ColorEdge monitor is in how you calibrate the monitors.
While both lines of monitor have hardware controls for white point, gamma and brightness that use the inbuilt hardware to make adjustments with much higher quality than typical monitors, it is only with the ColorEdge monitors that you can calibrate directly with the LUT in the back of the monitor.
With Flexscan monitors, you use a more typical 'software calibration' approach. But don't worry - they still calibrate absolutely beautifully. With the ColorEdge monitors, you perform 'hardware calibration' using the supplied Color Navigator software.
If you're interested, you can read more about the different types of monitor calibration.
Methods for colour management with monitors:
Ref: Image Science
- Direct Hardware Calibration - 'Direct to the metal' hardware calibration as offered by all NEC colour critical monitors (via SpectraView II) and the superb Eizo ColorEdge line of monitors (via the included Color Navigator software)
- Software Calibration - So-called 'software calibration using a hardware device' - this is the classic way of properly calibrating, using a device known as a Spyder or an Eye One Display (colorimeters)
- Purely software calibration (using your opeating system's in built calibration tool)
- The bare minimum method, The worst possible way - matching your monitor to a print your lab supplies ('The Shirley System')
Paper Mode and EyeCare Filter Reduce Eye Fatigue
The Paper mode preset simulates the look of printed paper and helps prevent eyestrain when reading documents. When used with EyeCare Filter (available with the bundled ScreenManager Pro software), any of several filter patters that resemble different types of paper can be applied. You can adjust the density of the filter patterns for maximum viewing comfort.
I'm still torn between VP2770 and 2736w.
I was EXACTLY in your boat a few days ago and I went with 2736W. FYI, I don't game.
Wondering whether paper mode works only with documents (PDFs), or with browsers, MS office, other text editors, etc?
Not sure how these "filter patterns" affect viewing either...
I don't game either. My only criterion is ease on the eyes, working with MS word, browsing (not games, not movies, not color critical work).
If i could see them up close, i'd decide in a heartbeat, but there's not such an option, neither trying & returing them.
I dont really mind the small price difference between them, but i cant tell if it's worth it (in terms of ease on the eyes). It's not that i have an eye condition, been using Dell U2410 for years, but i feel i need to change it (and will, before the end of the year). I'm not OCD about bleeding (2736w is supposedly bleeding-free) not sure though whether bleeding may stress the eyes, or it's a defect I would categorize in the OCD spectrum (I mean, personally i could even stand a dead pixel...).
Not sure which option (vp2770 vs 2736w) would make a difference, considering the above.
Not sure which option (vp2770 vs 2736w) would make a difference, considering the above.
"paper mode" is the only mode I can use without having to use heavy painkillers and spend the next day resting in a dark room. The brightness is not below 20%, so you don't have to worry about PWM.
The EV2736W uses PWM when the brightness is set below 20% which makes the VP2770 and BL2710PT better choices if you like really dim brightness settings.
Considering that you are using one of the worst monitors (the U2410 uses the grainiest matte coating available and often have pink and green tinted whites) for text I doubt either will be problematic unless you are one of those idiots who sits in a dark room, complains about eyestrain and refuses to turn down the brightness.
The EV2736W's default color presets are essentially the same as the VP2770's and they use the same coating.
Reducing the U2410's contrast from 50 to 20 likely greatly reduces the brightness [why not set the brightness to zero?] as well as murders the contrast/increases the black depth. Since you like really low brightness settings the BenQ BL2710PT is the best choice since it can get 2x+ dimmer than the rest, does not use PWM Dimming and has a slightly lighter matte coating than the Samsung PLS panels (EV2736W & VP2770).
The BenQ BL2710PT is the monitor buy over the Asus PB278Q, Dell U2713HM (run away screaming from it), Samsung S27A850D & LG 27EA83R (sRGB Version, 120hz LED PWM Dimming Frequency) if the Viewsonic VP2770 & Eizo EV2736W are to expensive or not available. My matte Qnix has far less glow but it does have noticeable light bleeding even when the lights are on.
INot sure which is best for Clarity (lowest value probably, 1 for Crossover & NEC ?), and whether this is more important than brightness considering work with text, MS office, etc.
I'm in Europe, and i can get 2736w for 600 euros, vp2770 for 480 and Ben-Q for 450. I consider the price differences minimal.
Considering the above, any advice for the final purchase please ?