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Discussion in 'nVidia Flavor' started by FrgMstr, Nov 1, 2018.
Stop touching your wood.
You're probably right. To be fair I ran my EVGA 1080 FTW at it's max power target since June 2016 though it wasn't 130%, and it ran solid under the same load only to be replaced by this EVGA 2080 Ti xc ultra. I'll back him down to see where I get.
Keep in mind this is the first consumer card maybe outside of the Titan's that i'm aware of that will actually use the increased power targets. You could crank up the power targets on a 1080 or 1080ti all day and on air cooling you generally weren't ever going to hit them.
With this card, if you crank the slider up to 124% - It will use it, and even spike above that.
This is a different situation.
So you bought another FE after what you went through and hearing what others have gone through with their FEs?
You need to buy a couple of 2080ti cards for the lottery to be good. I mean maybe 5-6 cards and one of them will be ok.
You will probably hear a statement like 2-3 months from now from Nvidia...
If my 2080 starts freaking out I might cry but I have it under the 3 year warranty plan anyway and I have my 1080ti to back it up.
I have my EVGA 2080 TI XC locked at 130% power target and according to GPU-Z, its hitting its VReg throttle limit. Depending on the application used, it can be 2010mhz, or 1965MHZ according to GPU-Z. Overall, I think in comparing the Asus card and EVGA card, the ASUS card has the edge in cooling as the EVGA tends to ramp up fan speed higher to a point where its audible to maintain that power target/2k~ range mhz OC. The Asus card is also a 2.7 slotter which means more heatsink area to cool. I am a sucker for my EVGA build, but tbh, an't blame my brand loyalty as they have RMA'd me well for over 10 years no hassles for anything that has acted up. On top of that, in some cases, I've been given better parts in return.
I mean.. there's a better EVGA card that has a cooler that's 2.7 slots. That might be more comparable.
I purposely went to a 2 slot solution instead of 2.7. Performance wise, my scores are lined up with the [H] review of the Asus STRIX card and others who have overclocked the same amount. In comparison with the Asus card, they are exactly neck and neck in performance and throttling under VReg the same way, not temp reg. In playing with it, I can put a fan speed limit at a sacrifice of 2C to keep the fans from being audible.
To sum it up: The asus dual fan 2.7 slot is priced better than the evga xc ultra with a 2.7 slot. It looks like most 2080ti are limited to similar overclocks.
One of my co-workers was complaining about the noise his card was making, I figured he was talking about airflow, but after hearing my 2080 ti fe he said it definitely wasn’t that. Sent me an audio clip of his and it had coil whine like crazy. Got a text today that it’s got snowy dots all over the screen and crashes in anything 3D now.
The card uses so much power that the coil whine is inevitable. A decent case should be absorbing any higher frequencies like coil whine though.
It has so many phases that should help. TDP is the same as a 1080ti.
I agree with the case.
TDP is the same on the spec sheet but I can tell you real world even with not with an adjusted power slider the card is using more than advertised as a stock card easily spikes an extra 6-10%. My 1080ti on the other hand didn't do this at all.
I personally have no problems with my card - But from the logs i've looked at I still believe some issues that folks are having with these cards is due to the poor power throttling/control. A 50 watt spike every 500ms in some cases logically doesn't seem like it's a good thing.
What you guys are missing that I too have a 2080 ti fe and I can’t hear coil whine. His was beyond annoying, and now his card is dead.
Google directly measured power charts for the two cards it’s the same for both. Hell I think the 2080ti looks more stable. And the 2080ti’s VRMs are more robust. I run mine at 400W average and I hear nothing at all... that guy’s card was just bad.
Bad coil whine should not be expected/accepted.
I figured out the issues I had with my dual RTX 2080 Ti's was just the evga power link bridges screw not being tightened enough. Both my cards are on water and the temps never go above 44c, but since they are mismatched branded cards(one FE and one Zotac AMP), it seems like I cannot go more than +115 on core clock, it will just crash games to desktop when I launch any of them
What is +115Mhz on the core to you? I that’s over 2100Mhz isn’t it?
My 24/7 is 2070Mhz... anything in that area is fine IMO.
Gamers Nexus found out some things that match up with my experience. Playing on my monitor i dont think i had any issues. However, game streaming to my tv, which i would lock to 60hz, would get the intermittent ctd/bsod. So maybe something with lower refresh rates on gsync monitors? Would also make sense why it seemed intermittent enough for me to not look in to, it probably only happened when i was on the couch.
Well, I do use GSync High Refresh monitors. Still, it only happens on some cards, and not others, so while a driver fix could solve it, the fact that I have working cards now without that makes me think there's something else wrong too. And I am running multi monitor too...
Hasn't happened on my X27.
It could be drivers or anything else. This was just the first thing that gave a possible rhyme and reason to what i was having.
I mean, if it was a driver issue, this would be a massively stupid oversight by NVidia. If you're the type of person to spend $1200+ on a high end graphics card(s) for gaming, you're most likely also the same audience who would spend money on a high refresh gaming monitor with gsync.
That sounds very similar to my problems when I first got my cards, was running triple-screen 144Hz G-Sync at that time.
Yeah, 2115 for a sec, but stays at 2085 normally. So, I guess any higher would push the boost so high due to my low temps and crash.
wow i've been heavily into pc gaming since early 2000's and (knock on wood) never experienced coil whine. maybe i'm lucky? but you may want to try a different brand than gigabyte then?? i use to use XFX until they stopped doing NVIDIA and now exclusively use ASUS being they are 100% produced by robots (and use quality components) so there is no chance of human error in assembly. ASUS does try to limit voltage on their cards tho, which i'm not to happy about.
i did finally figured out how to get 1.212v on my 980ti tho, by using afterburner and checking "unlock voltage control" then selecting the "extended MSI" option. use to top out at 1.200v using ASUS's GPU Tweak. took my OC from 1400 to 1440
I have some coil whine on my 2080 Ti. It's pretty minor though, and only kicks in on certain games. Not a problem with headphones.
I have a 2080 ti FE - So far no issues. One of the things I did prior to installing the card was to let it warm up. I did not benchmark or push the card for several hours after installing. I ran 3DMark, Cinebench, and Passmark at stock, but I turned the fans up to a manual 85% (anything over that on the FE is crazy loud). Then I ran the Auto-OC through Afterburner and let it build a curve for me, ended up at ~147mhz boost, interestingly my curve felt quite good overall once voltage increased topping out around 2100~. The card averages 1980 and 2030~ while benching. One thing I did notice, the card NEVER enters power save mode after the OC. It stays around 1300~. Also in boosted my ram clocks by about 600mhz~. I have played several hours of Fallout76 and Everquest on the machine (you know EQ is a beast.. >.<) I will post my GPUz results. But overall not a single bluescreen or artifact.
You guys aren't factoring the human factor. Undoubtedly, one of more people voted for failures that don't even own a 2080 Ti.
416.81 listed fix -
[GeForce RTX 2080 Ti][G-Sync]: Blue-screen crash may occur when exiting games
when using a G-Sync monitor with a non-G-Sync monitor. 
This attrition of bad cards has me thinking twice about this gen.
I'm not sure the actual hardware failures are any more than normal. A lot of issues seem to be due to a combo of driver bugs and other system issues as seen from this thread.
The AIB cards seem fine. I’d just stay away from FE cards until information comes out about them.
Gamersnexus is getting all sorts of cards in, not just FE.. Though I'm sure FE will be heavily represented just because of greater early availability.
Most of the AIB cards so far use reference PCB's anyways.
We know from der8aurer that the non-FE rates at the retailer he works at are 0.17% for the 2080 and 1.4% for the 2080ti which are not above expectations.
We don’t have any real numbers on the FE cards.
I have the same card, started seeing some weird stuff happening with it but might just be that COD BO4 is really buggy?
you have to buy the deluxe edition to get his legs. seriously though i have the same card (Zotac AMP) and i haven't seen this in BO4. i've put quite a bit of time into the game too which, as you know, means i've spent a lot of time looking at that particular screen.
Yeah I just installed the nvidia drivers and have not done any overclocking. Forza 4 at 4k60 all settings ultra with vsync only used like 60 to 70 percent of the card.
Can confirm the new driver fixed my idle/power save mode issues. Card now drops clocks correctly.
Here is some data while playing BF V --
I posted a log of BF V temps, load, ect. Again, I am just using the curve that was built by the auto curve creator in AfterBurner.
No lock ups, no bluescreens.
Given the reports of high memory temps it’s hard to disagree with the mem overclock... unless you are underwater OR verify the memory is cool.
I have to stop reading this thread lol. I knew the risks when I modded my card but I really don’t want to think about realizing those risks.
Oh and the paying for RMA shipping is complete bullshit. They should pay for it if you verify XYZ and they know it’s covered... in my opinion. Somehow that is industry standard but should not be on $1k+ cards. I will not buy EVGA since my 3x 1080ti hybrids died after a month with a very obvious AIO issue (other users had same issue) and they wouldn’t budge on RMA shipping for nearly $3k in faulty cards. Nevermind they get a huge discount on shipping...
We don't have any real numbers either way. Surely you don't believe what a sales guy is telling you?