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Destiny - Discussion Thread

Just picked up this game. Had a decent play session last night and I'm almost to level 7. Solid game. Nothing revolutionary but a good time waster. Only problem is, I would like to play coop multiplayer but I have no PS4 friends. (just picked up the system and I previously didn't own a PS3).

Any of you willing to be my friend? LOL :D

My PSN ID is RCollier27
 
I'm in the same boat as you, will add you later tonight when I'm on.

Currently level 11.
 
"It's a shame that some Destiny reviews came in before Xur, our first events, & the Raid turned on. We're just getting started." -- https://twitter.com/drcandland/status/510484241637847040 (Lead UI designer for Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3, ODST, Reach and Destiny)

Man, they're delusional.

Edit: He's now deleted this tweet, couldn't take the heat from people asking relevant questions, like why they are accepting money for this not-finished game or why, if this extra content is so imporant that it could change a review, it wasn't included from day 1.
 
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AceCR42 said:
Well shit, looks like I was wrong about reviewers being bought out and all the people that said Bungie was on full damage control were right. Current metacritic score is 75 (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/destiny/critic-reviews) and most of the harsher sites haven't reviewed it yet. I'm guessing GiantBomb will give it a 3/5, as the reviewer kept saying on stream how underwhelmed he was.

At the very least, I think Bungie has a solid foundation here so a potential sequel has much more variety when it comes to mission design and loot. Sort of like an Assassin's Creed 1 to 2 type deal.
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I'd swing an 8 / 10 as is. Some stuff needs fixed, but the game is a lot of fun and the potential is there. A lot of content isn't even out yet.

We'll see how it goes
 
I would like to thank all the pre-orders and day1 buyers for "beta-testing" this game for me and preventing me from wasting $65.

If things improve over time I'll consider picking up this game, but who needs another mediocre shooter?
 
Dawill said:
I would like to thank all the pre-orders and day1 buyers for "beta-testing" this game for me and preventing me from wasting $65.

If things improve over time I'll consider picking up this game, but who needs another mediocre shooter?
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You're welcome. Me and 15 other RL friends are enjoying it! If it isn't your cup of tea, I get it. But we all find it way more fun than any other console shooter out right now. The game really shines with friends. Too bad most of it is limited to 3 friends at a time so you have to pick and choose.
 
magoo said:
I'm playing on my old XB 360....so grain of salt.

Looks fine for this hardware.
I suck at a controller, but the mechanics seem fine.

The game is truly a vanilla shooter with some upgrade functions...blah, blah, blah.

I'm enjoying the game actually, I guess because I've not had a new game to play for quite a while.
It has more potential than it shows. I guess it could have been better.

That said, I am perfectly happy playing it in SP mode and will finish it.
I give it 7.5/10......Halo-lands, indeed.:D
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Magoo if you need a partner my 360 account is malivan.
 
Seems like all the 6-7 reviews mention most complaints the 8-9.5 reviews are from 2nd tier outlets. I'd give it a 6.5-7 honestly.

I'm not sure why they mentioned on twitter reviews should have waiting till the content was there. The raid wouldn't significantly increase the scores.
 
Viper87227 said:
My only complaint thus far is the lack of loot / reward for exploration. When I play a game like Borderlands or D3 I want to explore every inch of playable space to find cool shit. In Destiny, there is no reason to explore, there is nothing cool to find... so instead I just go straight to my objective. This isn't a huge issue since thats really what I'd do with most shooters anyway, but it would have been nice to see a reason to explore.
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There's loot chests/dead ghost/collectible trade in items on every planet!
 
I love how many of you guys are getting your panties in a bunch over the game. Oh noes how dare someone enjoy this game! I must stay in here and tell everyone how shitty the game is!

An Australian spells differently than me, I don't understand English so game sucks, and seriously lol at the reviewer who takes 30 minutes to kill a boss. Perhaps l2p?
 
I think the game has plenty of potential for the future. The game play is solid. Graphics are where I expected them to be for the xbox one. They just need to sort out the missions. Losing the feeling of repetitiveness would go a long ways.

Also I have a space ship that can warp me down to the surface, why cant it drop me off in a few more locations per planet?
 
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Climber said:
I love how many of you guys are getting your panties in a bunch over the game. Oh noes how dare someone enjoy this game! I must stay in here and tell everyone how shitty the game is!

An Australian spells differently than me, I don't understand English so game sucks, and seriously lol at the reviewer who takes 30 minutes to kill a boss. Perhaps l2p?
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What level are you exactly? the Later Strike bosses take forever to kill due to the adds.
Also due to bungies idiotic party and loot system. Im level 21 playing level 20 strikes and im getting level 16 weapons, how the hell do I kill bosses faster if I cant get any higher damage weapons?

Also as I mentioned earlier, this morning I played 4 level 20 strikes, 3 of them a party member left and wasn't replaced which means we had to do it shorthanded.
 
next-Jin said:
Seems like all the 6-7 reviews mention most complaints the 8-9.5 reviews are from 2nd tier outlets. I'd give it a 6.5-7 honestly.

I'm not sure why they mentioned on twitter reviews should have waiting till the content was there. The raid wouldn't significantly increase the scores.
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If anything the raid content and severe lack of party searching capabilities would hurt it. The lack of randoms would hurt it more during than raids than strikes.

However the fact that you cant pug the daily heroics is awful too. Your the only person on my friends list whos even playing
 
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Im level 21 playing level 20 strikes and im getting level 16 weapons, how the hell do I kill bosses faster if I cant get any higher damage weapons?
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How???

I hit 20 tonight and was fucking drowning in items and sitting on nearly 18k glimmer. Just go farm for 10 or 15 minutes and you'll probably find something. Like seriously I ran the first strike again to finish a bounty, was 10 levels over everything there, and was still finding level matched gear... a lot of it.
 
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What level are you exactly? the Later Strike bosses take forever to kill due to the adds.
Also due to bungies idiotic party and loot system. Im level 21 playing level 20 strikes and im getting level 16 weapons, how the hell do I kill bosses faster if I cant get any higher damage weapons?

Also as I mentioned earlier, this morning I played 4 level 20 strikes, 3 of them a party member left and wasn't replaced which means we had to do it shorthanded.
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Our party members are all in their 20s. Instead of spray and pray take the time and concentrate on head shots and use your warlock to concentrate on the adds with the titan coming over to help when needed. This gives you some serious dps time on the boss before the next wave of adds spawn. The majority of complaints are asinine and literally can be summed up as L2P.

Seriously, you see that heavily armored bad ass and shoot him in the legs and chest and wonder why he is a bullet sponge? Hmmmmm, what should I do? Readjust my strategy or tactics? Fuck that sheet, lets write a review about how this game sucks, requires no strategy, that Bungie just made everything bullet sponges, and how I know I'm right because Reddit agrees with me. The game has some shortcomings and some obvious exploits that need to be addressed, and yes, the endless spawning of enemies is one of the biggest problems. However, the majority of players seem to be trying to play Destiny as CoD or BF and are pissed because the game doesn't play as a standard FPS where you can 1 shot kill stupid ai.

You want to know why Bungie was disappointed with a lot of the reviews being released so early? Because the majority of reviews were rushed to be the first to press and missed the mark. There is zero way any of the reviewers have played the game enough to synergize their abilities, adapt to playing in small groups, and find the right abilities and strategies for most of the current strikes, let alone the upcoming raids. Seriously, that one review where the author was claiming it takes 30 minutes to kill a boss, what was he solo? If so good for him, but next time group up with some people who know how to play. I don't think we've spent more than 15 minutes in a strike or an event.

I've disagreed with the majority of reviews you guys post. But hey, to each their own but this game is meant to be played in a group and it is so much better when it is. It is like trying to play Borderlands solo. Sure, fun for a bit but boring after the first couple hours and very much repetitive after a couple days of that. Find a couple guys you can play with on a regular basis and there is no reason why you shouldn't be dominating the crucible, or any of the events or strikes even if they are a few levels above you.
 
I hadn't realized this place was a safe haven, that was, until I ventured out in the world and watched the gamespot video review from Kevin VanOrd (spot on if you ask me), and then... read the comments.

People are seriously suggesting that a) Destiny is an MMO and b) Therefore the reviews are invalid.

Oh, well. I guess I should trudge through the back half of this game...
 
Climber said:
You want to know why Bungie was disappointed with a lot of the reviews being released so early? Because the majority of reviews were rushed to be the first to press and missed the mark. There is zero way any of the reviewers have played the game enough to synergize their abilities, adapt to playing in small groups, and find the right abilities and strategies for most of the current strikes, let alone the upcoming raids. Seriously, that one review where the author was claiming it takes 30 minutes to kill a boss, what was he solo? If so good for him, but next time group up with some people who know how to play. I don't think we've spent more than 15 minutes in a strike or an event.
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Sorry, but this is an amazing quote.

1) You know the mind of Bungie. Do you work for them?
2) Reviews were rushed! It's almost like reviewers didn't have review copies early or something? Weird.
3) Players should have no reasonable expectation that the (allegedly) good things in the game surface before the.. what.. 20-40h mark?
4) Reviews are invalid because people, through no fault of the game mind, don't know how to play it.
5) You can rush through one of the main pieces of content in 15 minutes and this is a good thing.

I personally spent about 30 minutes on the first strike boss in the beta. I was one level under and at one point we lost one man. Figuring out that you had to shoot the legs took all of ten seconds. Then it was just a matter of plinking away with a sniper rifle with breaks to harvest more ammo. We eventually completed the strike, dancing and pointing all around! THAT WAS EXCITING! That one time.

Now I've played it once in the retail version, not really exciting any more.

Good on you for being able to do it in under 15 minutes though. They should add a time-based high score list so you can measure vpeen.

(point 5 is especially ironic when a common apology for this game is "people who play these games are not in it for the shallow instant gratification that most games give you, it is all about the slow but steady progression of your character and area that you are exploring". The reality is that the '30 second experience' -- instant gratification -- is something Bungie are proud of)
 
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Our party members are all in their 20s. Instead of spray and pray take the time and concentrate on head shots and use your warlock to concentrate on the adds with the titan coming over to help when needed. This gives you some serious dps time on the boss before the next wave of adds spawn. The majority of complaints are asinine and literally can be summed up as L2P.

Seriously, you see that heavily armored bad ass and shoot him in the legs and chest and wonder why he is a bullet sponge? Hmmmmm, what should I do? Readjust my strategy or tactics? Fuck that sheet, lets write a review about how this game sucks, requires no strategy, that Bungie just made everything bullet sponges, and how I know I'm right because Reddit agrees with me. The game has some shortcomings and some obvious exploits that need to be addressed, and yes, the endless spawning of enemies is one of the biggest problems. However, the majority of players seem to be trying to play Destiny as CoD or BF and are pissed because the game doesn't play as a standard FPS where you can 1 shot kill stupid ai.

You want to know why Bungie was disappointed with a lot of the reviews being released so early? Because the majority of reviews were rushed to be the first to press and missed the mark. There is zero way any of the reviewers have played the game enough to synergize their abilities, adapt to playing in small groups, and find the right abilities and strategies for most of the current strikes, let alone the upcoming raids. Seriously, that one review where the author was claiming it takes 30 minutes to kill a boss, what was he solo? If so good for him, but next time group up with some people who know how to play. I don't think we've spent more than 15 minutes in a strike or an event.

I've disagreed with the majority of reviews you guys post. But hey, to each their own but this game is meant to be played in a group and it is so much better when it is. It is like trying to play Borderlands solo. Sure, fun for a bit but boring after the first couple hours and very much repetitive after a couple days of that. Find a couple guys you can play with on a regular basis and there is no reason why you shouldn't be dominating the crucible, or any of the events or strikes even if they are a few levels above you.
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What's funny is that the earlier the review publish date the better the scores pretty much invalidating your argument. Quickly writing a review and publishing it with a high score screams bias. It's as if those reviewers took only production values into account and core gameplay mechanics and didn't bother to mention if the game was actually fun, rewarding, interesting, or had legs. Even if your point of L2P was a real counter argument it still falls short on answering any of the other reviews and community concerns.

You typed a thesis when it could have been summed up in a sentence or two.

All in all the Gamespot, Giant Bomb and ArsTechnica reviews sum up my feelings pretty much. I'm annoyed at the fact I bought this digitally so it's left up to Bungie and Activision to see if content and fixes come for free or if I have to abandon the game after 22 hrs or so of excruciating forced playthroughs.
 
eloj said:
Good on you for being able to do it in under 15 minutes though. They should add a time-based high score list so you can measure vpeen.
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I'm thinking they should add a "who watches the most you tube clips" achievement. The rest of your diatribe is just pointless rambling.

You typed a thesis when it could have been summed up in a sentence or two.
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Now you know how we feel when you post ;) I keed I keed. I mean if you find 4 small paragraphs a thesis I wish you would have been my thesis advisor in college. But I think you'll find this post much more of a thesis; however, most people I talk to or read seem to think the game is solid, but average at the time being; which would be how I would sum it up if you wanted me to do so in a sentence or two.

Now incoming thesis...

next-Jin said:
What's funny is that the earlier the review publish date the better the scores pretty much invalidating your argument. Quickly writing a review and publishing it with a high score screams bias.
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Early reviews were all mediocre and average at best. Complaints ranged from shoddy game play, shoddy graphics, no coherent story, weird UI, linear quests, and enemies that are bullet sponges to mask difficulty. Some of these complaints are valid. I wasn't trying to address every single review and every single complaint. There is work to be done here and the game does fall short in several areas, specifically: linear questing, alien wave spawns, and a mediocre story campaign.

It's as if those reviewers took only production values into account and core gameplay mechanics and didn't bother to mention if the game was actually fun, rewarding, interesting, or had legs. Even if your point of L2P was a real counter argument it still falls short on answering any of the other reviews and community concerns.
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Whether or not the game is fun, rewarding, interesting, or has legs is ultimately up to the individual. I find the game fun, rewarding, and interesting. Whether or not it has legs will depend on if Bungie cares to fix the exploits, banal wave spawns, repetitive backtracking through the same areas, and if they continue to add content to the game.

I stand by my L2P comment and how it affects some of the reviews. Could you imagine writing a review of WoW's new raid the day it came out? Of course not, you would expect the writer to learn the nuances and mechanics of the raid before tossing out a review and that is the feeling I think Bungie is currently going through. Playing with a standard group makes any game more fun, moreso with this game perhaps that is why I have a differing view then the reviewers.


All in all the Gamespot, Giant Bomb and ArsTechnica reviews sum up my feelings pretty much. I'm annoyed at the fact I bought this digitally so it's left up to Bungie and Activision to see if content and fixes come for free or if I have to abandon the game after 22 hrs or so of excruciating forced playthroughs.
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As a previous writer I do care about the story and the writing in games and Destiny does fall way short. There is huge potential here for additional world building, lore, and character building and I do feel that Bungie fell way short of their previous work. I have seen much better story and atmosphere from games that didn't need 1/5 of the budge for Destiny. However, with that said there is enough that I remained interested in the story and the quests.

Bungie tried something different with Destiny and it is obvious most reviewers don't know what to make of it. Take GiantBomb's review of it. Jeff is perplexed because he doesn't know what genre to put the game in. For example,
Compared with other loot games, which might have lightning firing out of you at all times or cows that sometimes descend from the heavens to do battle alongside you, Destiny's loot system feels half-baked.
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here he tries to compare the game to Diablo 3 because Destiny has a loot system. While he is being facetious I think most people would be more pissed if Destiny went that overboard with loot of that type in this world. Yes I feel that the loot can be more generous and do more to differentiate stats and builds better, but overall it isn't quite bad, especially at higher levels.

He sums up his conundrum best by stating
There are cool little flashes of brilliance in Destiny, but a lot of it feels like a game designed by people who weren't sure what sort of game they were designing. Is it a loot shooter? Sort of, but the loot isn't very good. Is it an MMO? No, but you'll occasionally encounter other players out in the field.
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He is pretty much dead on here. Bungie did try something different and the reviews show this, but I think a lot of those reviews are circularly feeding the criticisms. Many of the complaints are valid but minor. Things like the story can be fleshed out more, more multi-player modes can be added, loot can be adjusted, enemies can be adjusted but the framework is there and the majority of reviews acknowledge it is brilliant.

I think a lot of people are thrown off because Bungie tried something different and are off balance so to speak. Even you have found something enjoyable about the game if you're willing to continue to give it a shot, but something about it just isn't sitting well and like most others you seem on the fence waiting for that one thing to push you back into Bungie's corner. Which brings me back to my feelings on the game...Solid with huge potential and upside, but currently just average. If you have to have a game scale a 7.0 to 7.5 out of 10 would be about right from my perspective as it currently stands. But hey, that is just me trying to balance out some of the hate, especially from the youtube and reddit rejects who haven't played the game yet.
 
I'm not too far into the game. Level 4. So I think I screwed myself by not educating myself before purchase. I too bought the Digital version. I thought/heard/dreamt that this would be an open world with hubs along the way in the way of an MMO style shooter. But I'm greeted with picking a location and do a mission. The mission ends then I'm transported back into my ship. Rinse repeat. So there's not an open world to explore? Or I should've explored before finishing a mission? I went into this thinking Diablo but dang I was nowhere near it. Again not blaming anyone but myself. I too fell for the Hype.
 
n370zed said:
So there's not an open world to explore? Or I should've explored before finishing a mission?
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Not so much a world like a level. I think you should already have "Patrol" as an option on the Moon^H^H^H^HRussia by this time, if not you will very soon. This is where you can.. um.. explore more freely.
 
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I'm not too far into the game. Level 4. So I think I screwed myself by not educating myself before purchase. I too bought the Digital version. I thought/heard/dreamt that this would be an open world with hubs along the way in the way of an MMO style shooter. But I'm greeted with picking a location and do a mission. The mission ends then I'm transported back into my ship. Rinse repeat. So there's not an open world to explore? Or I should've explored before finishing a mission? I went into this thinking Diablo but dang I was nowhere near it. Again not blaming anyone but myself. I too fell for the Hype.
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You can explore but once you enter the final step of the mission you're done. The exploration sucks though. It is nothing like exploring in say fallout 3 or skyrim.
 
eloj said:
Not so much a world like a level. I think you should already have "Patrol" as an option on the Moon by this time, if not you will very soon. This is where you can.. um.. explore more freely.
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Patrols are open on earth and can be accessed at lvl 4. They will take you through much harder zones as well and if you do explore you'll probably also find higher level enemies to fight as well. At level 4 I was able to take on lvl mobs no problem but the lvl 9 knights would hurt if your not careful. Head shots and cover are your friends. Use your skills to help get a height advantage on higher level enemies and large groups. You'll last much longer.
 
n370zed said:
I'm not too far into the game. Level 4. So I think I screwed myself by not educating myself before purchase. I too bought the Digital version. I thought/heard/dreamt that this would be an open world with hubs along the way in the way of an MMO style shooter. But I'm greeted with picking a location and do a mission. The mission ends then I'm transported back into my ship. Rinse repeat. So there's not an open world to explore? Or I should've explored before finishing a mission? I went into this thinking Diablo but dang I was nowhere near it. Again not blaming anyone but myself. I too fell for the Hype.
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The only "hub" is the tower (Where you buy items and talk to npcs) .

You will see people from time to time in the world, also doing strikes and things (Which matchmakes you with other players).

Once you do a mission on a planet you unlock the "patrol" which basically lets you freely roam that world and do random missions on it or whatever you want, you'll have other players in your instance running around doing things here too.

Also you will see "events" from time to time where players can do them to get xp/items (think of like Guild wars 2 or such here).

The worlds are not really "open" though, it's definitely not an Elder Scrolls style world, a lot of times you might hit a "TURN BACK NOW" pop up when you go somewhere you shouldn't, which is a bit annoying.
 
Climber said:
Our party members are all in their 20s. Instead of spray and pray take the time and concentrate on head shots and use your warlock to concentrate on the adds with the titan coming over to help when needed. This gives you some serious dps time on the boss before the next wave of adds spawn. The majority of complaints are asinine and literally can be summed up as L2P.

Seriously, you see that heavily armored bad ass and shoot him in the legs and chest and wonder why he is a bullet sponge? Hmmmmm, what should I do? Readjust my strategy or tactics? Fuck that sheet, lets write a review about how this game sucks, requires no strategy, that Bungie just made everything bullet sponges, and how I know I'm right because Reddit agrees with me. The game has some shortcomings and some obvious exploits that need to be addressed, and yes, the endless spawning of enemies is one of the biggest problems. However, the majority of players seem to be trying to play Destiny as CoD or BF and are pissed because the game doesn't play as a standard FPS where you can 1 shot kill stupid ai.

You want to know why Bungie was disappointed with a lot of the reviews being released so early? Because the majority of reviews were rushed to be the first to press and missed the mark. There is zero way any of the reviewers have played the game enough to synergize their abilities, adapt to playing in small groups, and find the right abilities and strategies for most of the current strikes, let alone the upcoming raids. Seriously, that one review where the author was claiming it takes 30 minutes to kill a boss, what was he solo? If so good for him, but next time group up with some people who know how to play. I don't think we've spent more than 15 minutes in a strike or an event.

I've disagreed with the majority of reviews you guys post. But hey, to each their own but this game is meant to be played in a group and it is so much better when it is. It is like trying to play Borderlands solo. Sure, fun for a bit but boring after the first couple hours and very much repetitive after a couple days of that. Find a couple guys you can play with on a regular basis and there is no reason why you shouldn't be dominating the crucible, or any of the events or strikes even if they are a few levels above you.
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Yeah ok you sound like an advert. Your assuming that people don't know how to play as well. The strike I did last night yet again a party member left half way through so yet again I had to do it with 2 people. Between me and the other person 97% of out kills were precision kills we know the weakspots on the bosses yet it still took 45 minutes to clear.

The lack of voice chat is just a plain stupid oversite. The lack of matchmaking for the heroic stoke is a stupid oversite. The lack of matchmaking for raids with a piss poor excuse of "they're too hard" when there is nothing mechanically difficult about the game is idiotic.

Starting in the same place for every mission and running to a different place shows that their level and mission designs were not well thought out. Someone needs to do the math on how much HP a boss has, how much damage precision shots do and hoe many shots it would take to kill the boss if every shot was a precision shot. Every single person on every single board is calling the bosses bullet sponges because that's all they are. They are poorly designed.

Even the devils lair strike. Are you kidding me? I can literally move roughly 3 feet in any direction and the bosses projectiles miss. Its a joke how simple the boss designs are
 
ITT: people who don't have enough RL friends to play with so end up complaining day in day out.

Seriously guys, the game is way more fun with friends than random pugs. Hell, add some people here if you don't have any RL friends to play with.

That...or you must be "fun" at parties to be having this problem.

I understand the shortcomings, but my god is PvP ever fun with friends.
 
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