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Another dislike:
- had to buy minidisplayport to displayport cable
That is a great deal. But I can't figure out where everyone is getting these coupons. I am signed up for the Dell emails, and I get several a week, but they never have any coupons in them. Is there a mailing list that I am missing out on?
That is a great deal. But I can't figure out where everyone is getting these coupons. I am signed up for the Dell emails, and I get several a week, but they never have any coupons in them. Is there a mailing list that I am missing out on?
So am I the only one having a problem with white balance? My monitor's whites were way too green again today until the monitor had warmed up from hibernate for over an hour. Imagine if a laptop had to warm up for an hour before the screen looked good...Have had the monitor for about a week.
+colors
Dislikes
- faint buzz noise (goes away if I increase brightness to almost full, about 96)
Don't put your face to it- warm to the face after being on for several hours (it was at 100 brightness though)
Do other owners have buzz and think this is a space heater?
I've received 7 of these monitors and unfortunately they all display tinting.
I've never encountered anyone that have given the AG coating a fair try for a few weeks and not gotten over it (at least to the point where they find it acceptable).
But if you can't wrap you head around it there's probably no way, just as some people back in the days just couldn't stand the two horizontal lines of trinitron CRTs and simply refused to accept them.
Well, I returned my U3011 and it wasn't that I was afraid to try to adjust to it, but it cost me $1,499 and I just couldn't risk that much money in a product that wasn't 100.0% what I was looking for.
I think people in general are confusing theese entry-level 30" monitors with quality/professional products. Yes they cost a lot but thats not because they are that good, it's because they are that big. If you wan't quality, spend the money the U3011 costs but on a 24" monitor or go directly to Nec/Eizos offerings in the 30" range. Granted, they are targetet to a different audience but you won't find quality products being targeted towards home movie/game use.
Uh, ya, the new NEC and Eizo 30" displays use the same exact LG panel with the same exact AG coating as the Dell U3011 and HP ZR30w. Only their cases/internal LUT's and electronics are different.
Uh, ya, the new NEC and Eizo 30" displays use the same exact LG panel with the same exact AG coating as the Dell U3011 and HP ZR30w. Only their cases/internal LUT's and electronics are different.
Longtime lurker, new poster - so go easy please.
Cons:
+AG COATING (@%#$#^!!!!!!!!)
+Oh did I mention the AG coating?
+No really, theres this AG coating
Any ideas?
% dispcal -R -y l
Place instrument on test window.
Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue:
Uncalibrated response:
Black level = 0.32 cd/m^2
White level = 241.91 cd/m^2
Aprox. gamma = 2.27
Contrast ratio = 755:1
White chromaticity coordinates 0.3108, 0.3449
White Correlated Color Temperature = 6489K, DE 2K to locus = 13.5
White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 6481K, DE 2K to locus = 10.8
White Visual Color Temperature = 5981K, DE 2K to locus = 13.1
White Visual Daylight Temperature = 6103K, DE 2K to locus = 10.5
Effective LUT entry depth seems to be 10 bits
The instrument can be removed from the screen.
%
% dispcal -R -y l
Place instrument on test window.
Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue:
Uncalibrated response:
Black level = 0.23 cd/m^2
White level = 132.96 cd/m^2
Aprox. gamma = 2.25
Contrast ratio = 578:1
White chromaticity coordinates 0.3138, 0.3300
White Correlated Color Temperature = 6437K, DE 2K to locus = 4.5
White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 6437K, DE 2K to locus = 0.1
White Visual Color Temperature = 6280K, DE 2K to locus = 4.3
White Visual Daylight Temperature = 6441K, DE 2K to locus = 0.1
Effective LUT entry depth seems to be 8 bits
The instrument can be removed from the screen.
I have big tint problems overall but didn't notice any color uniformity issues. I guess I can faintly see a difference if I look for it, certainly no more than I'm used to seeing on any other CCFL display. If someone has a good tool for benchmarking this with the eye-one display 2 I could quantify any uniformity differences...I've received 7 of these monitors and unfortunately they all display tinting. The common occurrence is the left and middle sides of the screen are greenish whereas the right side is normal. The affected area is around 60% of the screen, much greater than the ones I've seen on the U2711. Obviously, they're all being replaced. The tint does fade a little after the backlight has warmed up. However, the defect is still noticeable.
With "factory" calibration, default brightness/contrast, my eye-one display 2 shows, as measured with argyll:
This seems to confirm my complains that the white level is out of range with factory settings. After calibration with the eye-one match software, which included cranking down the RGB gain to get a more reasonable brightness and white balance, (I'm currently at RGB gain levels of 77/72/78 respectively), I have:
Yes. And just as important, I had to turn down RGB gain to fix the color balance to get the substantial green tint out of the white. And notice that my final brightness is still on the high side. I do have some headroom with the contrast settings, perhaps I should compromise by first cranking contrast down below what eye-one match is recommending for contrast?So you are at minimum brightness and the panel is still too bright so you need to turn it down further RGB gain? Bad news....
I used the widely referenced http://www.argyllcms.com/I dont' really understand the program you are using. Why do you get 4 different color temperature readings. Any programs that I have seen provide one color temperature.
As in this:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/899/cali2680.png
Please note the restrictions when using a consumer colorimeter:This seems to confirm my complains that the white level is out of range with factory settings. After calibration with the eye-one match software, which included cranking down the RGB gain to get a more reasonable brightness and white balance, (I'm currently at RGB gain levels of 77/72/78 respectively), I have:
Thank you, yes, you sighted that page before and I eventually gathered that you think you can't 100% calibrate this monitor with a colorimeter because of the wide gamut. Yet the article notes that the generic correction is good enough. I haven't been able to try that with iColor Display as there's seemingly no way to demo it or even buy a license key in the US. Say, do you have a correction matrix I can apply to argyllcms?Please note the restrictions when using a consumer colorimeter:
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2010/review-dell-u2410-part15.html#Correction
Actually, I see icolor display's correction file DeviceCorrections.txt, and it looks like the matricies are compatible with argyllcms's ccmx. I think I can just copy the values from "eye-one display 2 for Wide Gamut S-IPS (generic)" to argyllcms.Say, do you have a correction matrix I can apply to argyllcms?
Dell Home has the Dell UltraSharp U3011 30in IPS LCD Monitor for $1349 Free Shipping after Coupon Code: PKPRQ3PRMQRF0P (500 Uses, Exp 10/14). Tax in Most.
% /u1/src/Argyll_V1.3.0/spectro/dispcal -X generic.ccmx -r -y l
Place instrument on test window.
Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue:
Current calibration response:
Black level = 0.32 cd/m^2
White level = 241.58 cd/m^2
Aprox. gamma = 2.26
Contrast ratio = 760:1
White chromaticity coordinates 0.3042, 0.3403
White Correlated Color Temperature = 6860K, DE 2K to locus = 14.3
White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 6849K, DE 2K to locus = 11.8
White Visual Color Temperature = 6241K, DE 2K to locus = 13.9
White Visual Daylight Temperature = 6370K, DE 2K to locus = 11.4
The instrument can be removed from the screen.
% /u1/src/Argyll_V1.3.0/spectro/dispcal -r -y l
Place instrument on test window.
Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue:
Current calibration response:
Black level = 0.32 cd/m^2
White level = 241.66 cd/m^2
Aprox. gamma = 2.26
Contrast ratio = 758:1
White chromaticity coordinates 0.3126, 0.3461
White Correlated Color Temperature = 6395K, DE 2K to locus = 13.3
White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 6388K, DE 2K to locus = 10.6
White Visual Color Temperature = 5913K, DE 2K to locus = 12.9
White Visual Daylight Temperature = 6034K, DE 2K to locus = 10.2
The instrument can be removed from the screen.
CCMX
DESCRIPTOR "Native gamut, ??? observer, Reference spectro: eye-one Pro Rev.D"
KEYWORD "INSTRUMENT"
INSTRUMENT "GretagMacbeth i1 Display 2"
KEYWORD "DISPLAY"
DISPLAY "Wide Gamut S-IPS (generic)"
KEYWORD "REFERENCE"
REFERENCE "X-Rite ColorMunki"
ORIGINATOR "Argyll ccmx"
CREATED "Sun Oct 10 00:42:36 2010"
KEYWORD "COLOR_REP"
COLOR_REP "XYZ"
NUMBER_OF_FIELDS 3
BEGIN_DATA_FORMAT
XYZ_X XYZ_Y XYZ_Z
END_DATA_FORMAT
NUMBER_OF_SETS 3
BEGIN_DATA
1.02039 -0.03372 0.01237
0.02016 0.98877 -0.0819e-002
-0.02548 0.04510 1.04330
END_DATA
Longtime lurker, new poster - so go easy please.
Cons:
+AG COATING (@%#$#^!!!!!!!!)
+Oh did I mention the AG coating?
+No really, theres this AG coating
+Inner edge of bezel is black but reflective
+20% off for other people just by asking - WTF?
My 2408 has the AG coating that people complained about too. For some reason the screen door effect just never bothered me. Maybe it was the lower resolution? I dont know. So reading all the early reviews of the 3011 didnt scare me off because I dont think Im overly sensitive to minor issues. However, this AG coating is truly awful. It just a presence on any light colored areas. Big white spaces are tough to look at like in Outlook, or Word. Its somewhat minimized by sitting back at least 24 but its still there, especially when you scroll pages. Reading it described here is one thing but actually experiencing it in your face is something else.
I did a bunch of checking with my Spyder3 and the 3011 checks out pretty well. No dead pixels, uniform colors, no backlight bleed. Its quite an impressive monitor, save for the one big issue.
I woke up this morning hoping I would feel different about the AG coating. I thought, Maybe its just that its new and different. But as I m using it today the AG isnt fading into the background. Sigh.
So I either live with it, or return it and buy what? Im really not sure the 27 Cinema Display is the answer and I want a 30" anyway. Ive used iMacs, and I have an iPad and I know how reflective glossy screens are. Its not that I have a problem with AG coatings in general, its just this one is so sparkly/grainy/blotchy that Im having a hard time with it.
So thats my 2 cents.
Any ideas?
It comes with a dual-link dvi cable (among others). If you're going to use DVI you need a dual-link dvi capable video card to run the display at the native resolution of 2560x1600. (HDMI on the u3011 only does 1920x1200 btw).So anyway, did I read something about this monitor being a dual-DVI for hook-up? I'm going to plug er in tonight or tomorrow.
It comes with a dual-link dvi cable (among others). If you're going to use DVI you need a dual-link dvi capable video card to run the display at the native resolution of 2560x1600. (HDMI on the u3011 only does 1920x1200 btw).
Oh and yes the monitor has 2 dual-link dvi ports if that's what you mean.
Yes, the dual-link dvi cable comes already plugged into the monitor, with a big yellow dual-link dvi label on it.You are positive the monitor ships with a dual-link DVI cable? I'm asking because with my disability I'm not going to be able to open the box until a friend comes over or I sweet talk my wife into hooking it up.