Dell U3011 coming soon.

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  1. Snowdog

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  2. hhara

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    Bout time - I wonder how much this is going to cost.... 1800$? More?
     
  3. chong67

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    Replacing the 3008wfp and better?

    Hows the AG coating?
     
  4. Snowdog

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    It looks like shots taken by someone who works in dell testing. So no consumers yet, so we have no idea of pricing/AG coating.

    But IMO with factory calibration and likely a better sRGB mode, this definitely seems worth waiting for if you were thinking about a 3008.
     
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    The only reason I'd switch from my 3008WFP is if they have fixed the lag when switching inputs or resolutions. It wasn't fixed in the U2711 so I'm not too hopeful.

    At least it seems they've gotten rid of the rather useless composite and S-video inputs which should make input switching more bearable.
     
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    "Like the U2410, the U3011 is factory color calibrated."

    This is an amazing thing.
    I just hope they put a game mode which removes the input lag. If they do so, then this will be the perfect monitor. :)
     
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    Delete. The browser sent it twice. Sorry
     
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    I"ll be happy if it got even less AG coating. If this thing start selling, then 3008 should come down some more?
     
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    Don't be too naive. This can be good and bad as well. Most of my current problems with my U2410 (A02) caused by the weird factory settings and the lack of the "native" mode.
    It would be much better if they let us to overwrite those factory LUTs.

    The game mode is the worst preset. It has very strange tonal response while the dark shades band into black and it causes heavy color distortion as well.
    On the other hand, he sRGB mode is nearly perfect for games. You should use that one!
    The Game mode is only for hardcore FPS gamers. You should really avoid it until you are some "professional gamer" (or champion, or I don't know how they call ourselfs :p).
    The input lag is nearly unnoticeable but the image quality is far from the acceptable limits.

    (But I can speak about the U2410 with the A02 firmware. This new U3011 can be better, of course.)
     
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    I think I'm still good with the 3007WFP-HC for now, from my experience I can just see it's a bigger version of my U2410. :D
     
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    I don't think the game mode on the Dells is anything like the game modes you find on TVs. On TVs they turn off pretty much all processing but since computer monitors don't do all that crap in the first place, it's most likely just a different color calibration that some half blind fellow at the factory felt looked nice.

    I really wonder what kind of situations they are using for calibration at factories because every single monitor I've owned has had abysmal color presets.
     
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    Damn. Damn. Damn.


    And I'm still in the return window for my 3008.
     
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    I use gaming mode exclusively on my U2410s and love them.
     
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    If 3008 is 1.5K, then this must be around 1.8K to 2K.

    3008 is not that bad of a monitor. 3007 is the worst.
     
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    I just ordered a 3008 this morning...
     
  16. kache

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    Call them and ask to change the order in a U3011
     
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    We don't know the price point. If it's over 1.8k then getting the NEC would actually be cheaper if you buy it from B&H.
     
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    I would advise potential buyers to wait a few weeks in order to see if the monitor is bug free. Dell has the bad habit of releasing monitors with faulty firmwares.

    As for me, I will most likely buy one in the coming months.
     
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    I hope soon someone can compare the 3008 vs this one.
     
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    Considering that every 30" Dell released in the past started at over $2k and the fact that there are still plenty of 3008 arround, makes me think the inital price tag will be arround $2k if not more. Once they clear out all of the 3008s including referbs, then the price will settle down to $1500. As mentioned above early adopters will get screwed when rev A01 comes out.

    I wish that LG would release a 30 inch panel with a ATW polarizer, because the white glow on a 30 inch IPS panel is a big drawback.

    Dave
     
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    It seems like Dell can only make monitor these days. Thats all I buy from them is the monitor.
     
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    Seem sweet, but I only paid $800 for my 3008, don't think I will be upgrading screens for along time.
     
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    I wonder if it will be 16:10 or maybe 16:9 like u2711 because iirc u2711 is only slightly bigger than my 24" 1920x1200.

    Anyway 1-2 frame input lag + connectivity options of u2711 and maybe i'll finally have replacement for the two displays i have now.
     
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    Almost certainly 16:10. It is going to be using the new LG 30" panel, which is a 16:10 panel.
     
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    Yipppeeee!

    (Sorry, I'm a 16:10 guy)
     
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    It better be 16:10. I hate x1028.
     
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    The resolution is listed as 2560 x 1600 in the link, that's 16:10. IF it was 16:9 (which it is not) it would be the same resolution as the 2711, i.e. 2560 x 1440.
    I don't expect to buy this monitor, but I'm hoping it lowers the price of the 2711 in a few months.
     
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    Will this monitor replace the 3008?
     
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    Man, I want one, but again, what about cost.
     
  30. Sycraft

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    One would expect so, based on the name. Dells monitor naming format as of late seems to be two digits for the size, two for the year. So the U3011 is the 30" monitor, 2011 edition (since like car manufacturers they have to be a year ahead).

    Like most places, they operate based off of what the panel makers do. There's a new 30" IPS panel coming out, which is what the NEC PA301W will use, Dell is using it too.
     
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    So which is going to be better, the HPZR30W or this new Dell U3011 and why?
     
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    The difference between the 3008WFP and the U3011 are probably not that major anyway so I'd guess that the picture won't change much from ZR30W vs. 3008WFP.

    With the main difference that Dell has a scaler, OSD and everything around that and that the HP has no lag but a really wide gamut and not much to do about it.

    Maybe the U3011 has 30 bits which will take away the only real advantage of the HP (aside from price), eventhough 30 bits is too cumbersome to be worth it today people always want to be future-proof (even when it doesn't make sense).

    I'd say that the scaler+OSD and price is the main points that differentiates them.
     
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    After briefly owning a 3007-HC, I would never consider another monitor without an OSD.
     
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    If it has less AG coating and no sparker and perhaps some minor reflection, that it would great with me and I consider that a big improvement.
     
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    I see no point on pricing it above $1500, when the NEC PA301W is just around the corner, at slightly over $2000
     
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    Late October? So that means I should pick it up in mid Febuary when the Rev A02 comes out.

    In regards to the price, it has to be lower than 1800 or people will just pick up the NEC. Chances are they'll replace the price of the 3008 with the 3011 and knock the 3008 down to the price of the 3007. What they'll do with the 3007 is anybody's guess. They might just flat out discontinue it. They could also get rid of the 3008 and leave the 3007 and the 3011.
     
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    I bet it'll be less than $1800 with the usual Dell 'discount'. Furthermore, since the street price for NEC PA271W is around $1600, I doubt the PA301W is going to be less than $2000. Probably $2300 ~ $2400.
     
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    I think you are confuzled. The PA271 is about $1350 or so. You are probably looking at the Spectraview versions which comes with the calibrator and software which is about $1500.
     
  40. jenneth

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    Ah nvm, I stand corrected.