bought this over a year ago. still going strongSo I bought this monitor a few months ago. I bought it to use for gaming on the PC and xbox 360 and just general PC use. It has been good in all respects. No noticeable lag for gaming and the picture just looks good in general.
I had two of them on my desk at work for a while (I moved to a new position and couldn't take them along), and when they were set next to each other the right monitor would set off the left's buttons.Oh, for those that use tube amps...
I had my amp under the menu buttons and it sets off the capacitive sensor in it so the bottom light would turn blue and kind of pulsate. I moved amp and it stopped doing that.
Thanks for replying. That's kind of what I figured. I do still like the peace of mind that if a dead pixel is found, Dell will exchange within 3 years. However, I'm not a fan of their choice to outright exclude tinting from their return policy.If you can live with it then keep it. Otherwise you'll get more of the same from Dell. This issue has been noted for a long time, unfortunately, no one knows the cause of tinting.
The U2412M has more visual similarities to the NEC than the U2410 does IMHO.Thanks for replying. That's kind of what I figured. I do still like the peace of mind that if a dead pixel is found, Dell will exchange within 3 years. However, I'm not a fan of their choice to outright exclude tinting from their return policy.
I'll add a fourth option here, would the Dell UltraSharp U2412M be a better alternative than the NEC if I were to return this monitor to kmart? My main issue is with its cheaper IPS panel and LED backlighting as well as its viewing angles. I don't want an IPS monitor that resembles a TN panel if that's what we're talking about here.
Haha, gotta love those coincidences . Really, that well informs my decision vs just having someone spout an opinion based on panel tech alone or something. Thank you!@BoomSlang001
We have NEC LCD2490WUXi2 monitors at work, too. And I have U2410 at home, just like you. Only it's A10. My unit has no tinting or other issues, but it still looks miserable beside the NEC (I tested both side by side).
Another coincidence: I also have Spyder4Pro calibrator, and also use Argyll CMS/dispcalGUI combo. I'm a graphics designer, too (print, mostly), and I also mostly do gaming at home. Heck, it's like I'm looking in the mirror here.
Anyway, since I know both monitors quite well, and our demands are similar, I would suggest returning the Dell and grabbing the NEC. I haven't tested the NEC in games, unfortunately, but my boss assures me that he had played Battlefield 3 on it and everything was peachy. Response time is pretty much irrelevant in this case, it's the input lag that matters, and the NEC seems to have about the same amount of input lag as U2410 without game mode, according to Prad.de -- 33ms average.
For me, personally, NEC LCD2490WUXi2 has only two minuses -- inability to rotate from side to side and poor connectivity (especially, the lack of HDMI port). Also, it's a real shame they removed A-TW polarizer from this model. Everything else is simply perfect.
Also important: Due to the absence of hardware LUT, calibration is a joke on U2410 (unless you have a 10 bit DisplayPort connection), while the NEC provides all the necessary hardware means for successful calibration. Although to me LCD2490WUXi2 looks great right out of the box (unlike U2410, which is a "wild gamut" mess).
Jesus! Another coincidence -- I also have an old Samsung next to me (although it's 22") that I was thinking of selling. Now it's becoming creepy!Now, I do still have my Samsung PX2370 next to me that I was thinking of selling.
Haha, no kidding! I read some reviews (prad I believe) and it looks like the actual response time ranges from 15ms faster to 25ms slower. I never knew there was such a variance in response times. They did claim there was some input lag but I'm hoping my Razer mouse and keyboard give me a slight boost there. I notice no input lag between them and the U2410. *crosses fingers*Jesus! Another coincidence -- I also have an old Samsung next to me (although it's 22") that I was thinking of selling. Now it's becoming creepy!
Anyway, it's a good call to stick with the NEC option. It's a great monitor, calibrated or not, and as for gaming, it should be virtually no difference from U2410. As for the pure response time, the difference between the listed GTG times (6ms vs 8ms) should be virtually non-existent. But it depends on individual level of perception. Since you have a NEC available at work, you may consider trying it for some fast moving imagery to see if you notice anything unpleasant.
Beats me, too. Grey-to-grey or black-white-black tests should give pretty much fixed results. Probably they are testing different combinations, like grey-to-color, black-white-color, color-to-color, etc. Hence the variations.I never knew there was such a variance in response times.
See those LED indicators above the power button? Turn the monitor off, cover the second and the fourth indicators with your fingers, as shown below, and turn the monitor on with your fingers still covering the indicators. Once all the indicators light up, press the uppermost indicator and you'll get the factory menu.How to get the Factorey Menu ?
I don't think updating the firmware will make your old panel look crispier. Most likely, it's a panel issue. AFAIK, all firmware updates since rev A02 were purely cosmetic (OSD tweaking and such), no actual hardware changes were introduced. So if your old panel looks different and no calibration/adjustment helps, I'm afraid that's gonna stay that way.Is there anything I can do to update the firmware on my older one to match?
The tinting issue seems to be resolved in the later revisions, but I still suggest you keep your 2412ms, for completely different reasons. As you may be aware, the 2410 is wide gamut. Wide gamut may be usable in professional photography, but in graphics design it causes more problems than benefits.I just got u2412m and it's for graphic design am thinking of switching it out for 2410.
are there still tinting issues in latest revisions?
or do I just keep my 3 2412ms?