Dell’s UltraSharp 2005FPW widescreen 20-inch LCD monitor.

stelleg151 said:
My 2005fpw is coming tomorrow, and I am worried that my x700pro wont be able to run at 1650*1080, because Ive been messing around with the display options, and looking at all possible resolutions, it doesnt show that one. Does anyone else have this problem? I have cat 5.4, so I dont think it should be a driver issue, but any advice from people(as I am sure that other people out there have 2005 and ATI cards) would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks
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Your fine man. I have an old ATI AIW 7500 and I didnt have the option either, but when I hooked up the monitor it showed up.
 
I notice some screen door effect and some backlighting issues, anyone else not havet he screen door effect? (screen door effect = when you look closely at your monitor, espcially on lighter colors or white, it looks like you are looking through a really fine screen).

Also I feel like there is a bit more mouse lag on my desktop. I have an mx510, should I reinstall drivers for it now that I have this new monitor?

Thanks

EDIT: btw, this thing is f*cking SWEEEET
 
I'll probably look like an idiot for asking this.... BUT

Has anyone else had problems connecting the screen to the stand? It has 3 forks at the top and 2 at the bottom, and it LOOKS like it should attach well at both points, there's even a button of sorts on the stand that moves some of the attach things around on the stand, but right now it's just hanging by the top 3 forks... it's not anchored in. :|

Sooooo What am I doing wrong here? :)
 
Okay, I sorta notice the screen-door effect where the picture, especially black text on a white background seems to be fuzzy. I also also see the rainbow effect where some people are able to see on DLP hdtv displays...like the screen looks sparkly or something in lighter colors, especially white.

I don't seem to have any backlight leakage or any dead pixels.

I tried using some webpages to check for dead pixels, but something weird is going on with this monitor. Instead of showing a black and white background, it will show some weird colors and static. This problem doesn't happen on another lcd screen i use, nor a crt.

Can you guys tell me what you see on the following webpages?

http://www.gdargaud.net/Hack/DeadPixel/BlackWhite.html
http://www.gdargaud.net/Hack/DeadPixel/WhiteBlack.html
http://www.gdargaud.net/Hack/DeadPixel/BlueYellow.html
 
I just see the speckled gray backgrounds. When I had the monitor on the VGA plug though, those gray backgrounds would flicker when scrolled. On DVI it looks as it should.
 
Anyone know what the best way to play XBOX on this monitor is? I just got it, perfect and everything, started playing Halo2 and even though it looked a little fuzzy, is there a way to sharpen it up?

And for sound, how can I do that?

Thanks!
 
ok got mine today, fuckin love it!.

no dead pixels, and no backlight leakage, at least for a few hours.


after a while i started noticing when i put a black screen up, but if i move my head around it disappears, or tilt my monitor. is that normal?


btw, i wallmounted mine and ran the wires behind the wall for ultra sleekness. now it floats.

here are some pictures with my $30 dollar camara:

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you probably think i got an 100% no leakage monitor, but you would be wrong. i got minor leakage (at least i think it is) but my camara is so cheap its not able to show it. :mad:
 
I just received my 2005FPW today from Dell, the total was $384 SHIPPED!!!! Damnit I love Dells coupons!! This LCD is PIMP!!!!!!! I wanna have sex with the wife while watching a porno DVD on this beautiful screen!!! :p
 
I just got my 2005FPW today for $345 shipped, but im pissed cause so far I see 2 dead pixels, and it am having backlight issues on the edges. I guess I'm going to have to return this for an exchange. Am I gonna have to pay for the shipping to send it back to DELL? I hope not because this isn't fair that I have to return it cause of their defects.
 
ok, got my 2005 today, i do notice the screen door, but not to distracted, no dead or stuck pixels, some leakage at the top,

I seem to have a problem though that I havent seen mentioned, on black images I have a very distracted viewing angle problem, the bottom right has a red tint to it, and the bottom left has a yellow. If I line my head up with either corner though it goes away in that corner, but the other half the screen looks terrible. This has made it impossible to play doom3, anyone have any advice for this?
 
Received my 2005fpw yesterday. Rev 01, March 2005, Mexico. There is some evidence
that monitor is not straight from the factory. packing material was a little sloppy and back of
monitor where it connects to the stand had a verical rub line. This indicates that, at lthe least, the stand had been connected to the monitor. So, did someone send their monitor back and dell did a quickie test and reshipped it??? Anyway the monitor has two stuck green pixels
and section along top has moderate backpanel bleed with another section of top have minor
bleed. Pixel and bleed problem are not apparent under normal viewing. Colors and sharpness
are outstanding using the dsub (vga) conector on my display card (geforce 256). DVI connector does not work. Time for new adapter.
Despite problems I am tempted to keep monitor. I do not want to search for the holy grail
ie the perfect monitor. I do think that dell sent me a rebagged monitor. I find that to be very
disturbing and I might sent it back more for that reason than ther physical problems.
 
Dell tests the monitors before they ship them out, which is why the VGA cable is attached. Though I think its against the law for them to send you a refurb without a big 'refurb' sticker on the box...

Anyway, as for the "leakage" spoken of in the last few messages, especially with the wall-mounted one... Your screen does look leakage-free, and the "leakage" that you think you're seeing is actually the viewing-angle quirks of an IPS panel. (i.e. you'll see a peach-ish, pink-ish or purple-ish hue on blacks from the corners, depending on how far you are). Since this is a widescreen, the effects of off-centre viewing are more apparent. The way to rid yourself of this is to either sit further back, or to tilt the screen slightly upward. You should also be sitting centred facing the screen. I find that if I don't tilt my monitor up a little bit (since I have no choice but to sit a few feet away from my desk) I see the hues.

As for dead pixels, if they're not near the centre, and you can barely ever notice them, don't worry too much about them. It's the problems that you consistently notice that you should return the screen for. And yes, Dell pays for return shipping, and even shipping the new screen back to you. You shouldn't have to pay a penny while covered under Dell's warranty, and if you ever do, call them and they will certainly credit it back to you.
 
Can someone help me out on how to play xbox/ps2/dvd player through this monitor?

I got video by plugging my xbox into the composite plug, but how would I get sound?

great monitor by the way, no dead pixels, no back lighting, sweeeet.
 
hmmm i doubt anyone will see this..... but if so... could some one take a picture of the 2005fpw next to a 19inch CRT.... i wanna see what kinda size upgrade it will be

edit: if there is a picture somewhere in the 90 pages... plz inform me of page... i only scanned through random pages
 
dynamiks said:
I just got my 2005FPW today for $345 shipped, but im pissed cause so far I see 2 dead pixels, and it am having backlight issues on the edges. I guess I'm going to have to return this for an exchange. Am I gonna have to pay for the shipping to send it back to DELL? I hope not because this isn't fair that I have to return it cause of their defects.
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That's a good deal there man. I would have gotten an additional 10% off, but I didn't feel like signing for a Dell account! I'm just happy that I don't have any dead pixels or any of those backlight problems.
 
dynamiks said:
I just got my 2005FPW today for $345 shipped, but im pissed cause so far I see 2 dead pixels, and it am having backlight issues on the edges. I guess I'm going to have to return this for an exchange. Am I gonna have to pay for the shipping to send it back to DELL? I hope not because this isn't fair that I have to return it cause of their defects.
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I got mine yesterday. I didn't check for backlight leakage but it has a few dead pixels so i'm going to ask for a replacement. I got mine for $345 shipped as well and i plan on selling it if i get a good one since i already have one 2005FPW. If the replacement isn't any good then i'll probably just get a refund.
 
Ok, don't kill me to bad, but I admit that I didn't read all 83 pages of this thread.

I have a question.

I currently have a KDS 15in LCD, I like it, not great for gaming but it does me just fine. Having said that. I want widescreen, and I want it bad. These Dells are nice, as evident by this 83 page thread.

Question time:
1. Will I be able to hook up the Xbox360 to it. I realize no one knows what ports it has, but it said it will run the games at 720p with full AA/AF.

2. I love the stand on my KDS Rad-5q stand. I just love it. It is sturdy, solid, and moves up and down. Here is a link to a pic---> pic
What I am wanting to know, is the Dell one just as good? My father got a 19in Dell LCD (forget the model), and the stand blows, majorly. It wobbles easy. I don't like wobbly.
 
For reference - I just got mine in. Bought it during the recent low price Dell sale.

I cannot detect any dead or stuck pixels, but I do have a minor backlight leakage from the top right section which is only detectable in a dark room on a dark screen.

I am going to keep it, but one thing that surprises me is the picture is not as amazing as I had thought it was going to be. I guess my CRT was better than I had thought. Don't get me wrong, the picture is very nice. Its just not blowing me away.

I am running in native resolution, with the dell driver. Any suggestions are welcome.
 
I just got mine today... ordered it 2 days ago with free ground shipping... damn it came quick.

there are no dead pixels but i do have bleeding in the lower left. i'm gonna call and bitch so they send me another one and if its better i'll keep the new one. honestly it isn't really noticeable unless you are on an all black screen... been playing guild wars in the dark and i don't notice it. maybe it just hasn't quite gotten as bad as it will yet.

anyway can someone tell me the optimal brightness and gamma settings? (OSD or video card either way) i read it somewhere in this massive thread but i can't find it now.
 
about fixing the bleeding:

i found
http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t246836-550.html

the guy says this really worked:

When I received my 2005FPW, it had backlight bleeding that was just as bad as or worse than any of the pictures I've seen posted in this thread. Since I was getting it replaced anyway, I figured I couldn't mess it up any more and decided to see if I could do anything about it. I took a paper towel and started pressing various areas of the screen to see what effect it had. What I found was that firmly pressing on an area with backlight bleeding and dragging toward the center of the screen got rid of the bleeding. It takes some patience and finesse, but it does work.
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does anyone have the balls to try this out and report if it does indeed fix the bleeding? so many of us are having this problem and it seems like replacements aren't fixing it.
 
MUCHO said:
For reference - I just got mine in. Bought it during the recent low price Dell sale.

I cannot detect any dead or stuck pixels, but I do have a minor backlight leakage from the top right section which is only detectable in a dark room on a dark screen.

I am going to keep it, but one thing that surprises me is the picture is not as amazing as I had thought it was going to be. I guess my CRT was better than I had thought. Don't get me wrong, the picture is very nice. Its just not blowing me away.

I am running in native resolution, with the dell driver. Any suggestions are welcome.
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I got in the 2001FP today. Guess the 2005 is better than I thought. The 2001 picture quality can not compare to the 2005.

Also the 2005FPW is starting to grow on me. Looks like the CRT is going to go bye bye and the 2005 will be around till I get a 2405! :D:D:D
 
I got my 2005fpw yesterday and its awesome! No dead/stuck pixels and I honestly dont see any problems with backlight bleeding... That said I ended up moving it over to use on my Mac Mini since playing Halo2 in 480p using an x2vga adapter looked much better on my 19" CRT than the 2005.

-Tony
 
you aren't going to see backlight problems until you wait till its night time and no lights in your room and then you put on the "blank" windowsxp screen saver or put on a dvd.

its crappy when you are watching a widescreen movie at night and the black letterbox is suddenly grey.
 
I just got my April A01 2005fpw, and I must admit, the pictures that you guys posted of the backlight bleeding are shocking. I could see like a TINY one inch area along the top of the screen where it was somewhate lighter than the rest ONLY when the lights are off and ONLY with a completely black background. I got mine for 384$ + tax and it came with zero dead pixels. That purple hue that everyone gets is apparent only when looking at a dark screen from odd viewing angles which I think also happened on my past viewsonic LCD. With that all being said, I DO have a problem that I had with my last LCD. My geforce 4 MX 420 graphics card must be defective of something because I still get VERY noticeable blurring that I don't get with a CRT. It is connected with the VGA cord because my card doesn't have DVI. Does anyone else have this problem? I know my friend has a 25ms piece of crap 3 year old dell 17 incher, and on HL2 with his geforce 6800gt, I don't see any ghosting. Has anyone ever heard of ghosting or blurring caused by VGA or poor graphic cards?
 
I'm going to buy one little 2005fpw tomorrow, and was just wondering how much does that purple hue thing bother you? How much do you notice it while browsing the web, i.e. dark sites like the [H]? Editing photos? Or do only black/really dark pixels turn purple?

And does the 20" Apple display have the same problem? Havent seen it mentioned anywhere... same panel and all... :confused:

The 2005 had no visible backlight bleed btw. Even in a semi-dark room with a balck screensaver. The people at the store were kind enough to turn off the lights :p
 
ronin.ee said:
I'm going to buy one little 2005fpw tomorrow, and was just wondering how much does that purple hue thing bother you? How much do you notice it while browsing the web, i.e. dark sites like the [H]? Editing photos? Or do only black/really dark pixels turn purple?

And does the 20" Apple display have the same problem? Havent seen it mentioned anywhere... same panel and all... :confused:

The 2005 had no visible backlight bleed btw. Even in a semi-dark room with a balck screensaver. The people at the store were kind enough to turn off the lights :p
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the purple shit isnt too bad at all for me, so anything manufactured after April is prolly fine. I am EXTREMELY picky about LCD's too. I really have to angle it right with a black screen to see purple. I looked at my friends samsung LCD and his turns green in the same situation. It's prolly an inherent issue with light refracting off the pixels at certain angles. My backlight is not bad at all. It gets more visible the longer the monitor is on, so its probably heat related. I've never really seen a monitor with a perfect backlight, but those earlier posts of pics were ridiculous. I'll take a pic of mine when i find a digi cam.

The only thing that angers me about this LCD is the ghosting!!!!

Hell, I spent 609$ on a VX900 (19" 25ms) at christmas time and that was a real piece of shit (I returned it on the last day), so this monitor feels like a steal! The features outweigh the weaknesses. I just hope an upgrade to my video card with DVI will fix it.
 
I think I'm going to return my dell 2005fpw if the shipping is free. From what I've read dell will pick it up for free for an exchange, but do you guys know if this is also true for a full refund?

The purple color is a non-issue for me also as you only see it at angles, but since everyone views it directly, it shouldn't be visible. Viewing standard definition channels and dvd's through it isn't that great. And the rainbow-like effect is a little annoying. I already have a lot of desktop space so I'll probbaly just revert back to paring a 17" lcd with my 45 incher.
 
Yes, Dell pays the shipping in most cases.

You only get the purple hues when you view a black screen at an angle... or if you don't have the screen properly positioned in front of you, the corners will appear to be a peach/purple hue. Simply tilt the monitor upward a tad and sit back a bit, and it will look great.

Yes, the Apple 20" has the same effects. Anand recently did a review of the Apple 20" vs the Dell 20" and they gave the Dell a higher score and are using as their new 'benchmark monitor' for all other monitors to compare to.

As for an MX420 causing ghosting? Well... it's quite unlikely, but it's possible. However, if your friend's piece of crap 25ms 17" Dell is a TN panel, it may be more responsive than yours. Remember, specs are all subjective. I guess you won't know until you take your screen to a friend of yours that has a better video card... or maybe you can borrow their videocard for a few hours? You simply have to do the comparison yourself if you want to know whether you notice the ghosting on the screen.

Personally, I don't notice it when I'm gaming (I don't game too much anyhow, at least not on the PC). I DO notice it when I'm doing sound editing and looking at waveforms, though. Doesn't bother me all that much anymore, as I've gotten used to it. The screen is simply beautiful. I don't see any SDE/rainbow, I do have a couple dead pixels that I never EVER notice, and there is a tiny 1-inch section near the top right that bleeds a very little after the screen has been on for hours... so I'm quite happy with this screen. Especially with the price.
 
I am thinking about getting the 2005fpw but I have one question. I am buying this monitor not only to be my pc monitor but to be a tv display as well, I was wondering if I hook up my satellite via svideo will the monitor stretch the input to the native resolution or will it put black bars on the sides? I know on the 2001fp that you have 3 scaling types, 1:1, fill, and aspect. If you choose the fill on the 2001, it will take the input and fill the whole screen while the 1:1 option shows the video at the native resolution, which is actually very small since it is 640x480. so if I get the 2005, will i have to choose from either 1:1 and a small image, or fill and have a stretched image since it is 4:3 and not 16:9 (or 16:10)?

So to get to the point, I want the screen ratio to be preserved while being the biggest image possible on the screen. Does the 2005 do it?
 
[jarod]is[root] said:
I am thinking about getting the 2005fpw but I have one question. I am buying this monitor not only to be my pc monitor but to be a tv display as well, I was wondering if I hook up my satellite via svideo will the monitor stretch the input to the native resolution or will it put black bars on the sides? I know on the 2001fp that you have 3 scaling types, 1:1, fill, and aspect. If you choose the fill on the 2001, it will take the input and fill the whole screen while the 1:1 option shows the video at the native resolution, which is actually very small since it is 640x480. so if I get the 2005, will i have to choose from either 1:1 and a small image, or fill and have a stretched image since it is 4:3 and not 16:9 (or 16:10)?

So to get to the point, I want the screen ratio to be preserved while being the biggest image possible on the screen. Does the 2005 do it?
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yep, does the same exact thing as your 2001FP
 
No, the "fill" mode will stretch it so people will look fat. The "scale" mode is the one you want, that will put black bars on the side.
 
Apple 20" Cinema Displays and Dell problems.

Let me just say I was considering replacing my clear cased 20" Apple Cinema display with 2 of the 2005fpw's but after reading about all of the image/color/backlighting issues, i'm thinking twice about it. To be honest, I just wanted to have 2 matching monitors, and a buddy of mine got a 2001fp last month and it friggin rocks, I just like widescreen.

My Apple cinema 20" (clear cased) doesn't have any of the backlighting or dead pixel issues, in fact I friggin love the lcd, but hate the look of casing and it looks tacky sitting beside the dwarfed viewsonic 17" lcd.

Any of you purchased an 2005fpw marked for April? Are the problems still there?
 
There will always be problems. But the chances of getting them now are MUCH slimmer than the chances last year when they came out. Get one... you have 21 days to do whatever the hell you want with it regardless. Not satisfied? Dell will pick them up and pay you back.

Anand recently scored the Apple vs Dell on these 2 screens, they said they liked the Dell better, despite the same panel.
 
defsquad said:
Apple 20" Cinema Displays and Dell problems.

Let me just say I was considering replacing my clear cased 20" Apple Cinema display with 2 of the 2005fpw's but after reading about all of the image/color/backlighting issues, i'm thinking twice about it. To be honest, I just wanted to have 2 matching monitors, and a buddy of mine got a 2001fp last month and it friggin rocks, I just like widescreen.

My Apple cinema 20" (clear cased) doesn't have any of the backlighting or dead pixel issues, in fact I friggin love the lcd, but hate the look of casing and it looks tacky sitting beside the dwarfed viewsonic 17" lcd.

Any of you purchased an 2005fpw marked for April? Are the problems still there?
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I got one about two says ago. Date on the back is March 2005, but its assembled in the UK, so you US people wont probably get those?

Anyway, no backlight issues whatsoever, exellent colors, no ghosting (even in Q3 and other fast games). Just one dead pixel, RIP, but its in the upper left corner and pretty dark, so not much of a problem.. I'm still going to see if I can exchange it :p

A buddy of mine bought one too, and all his pixels were alive and stuff.. damn.
 
I have a 19" (18" actual) CRT right now and I run it at 1152x864. I tried to do some math calculations to see if I could figure out the pixel density per inch, but I don't know if I did them right. I want to know if the windows/icons/text are going to appear smaller on the 2005, or if the increase will help even the difference out.

Edit: And what are the benefits/drawbacks of the 2005fpw's widescreen over the 2001fp's standard 4:3 screen?
 
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