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Civilization V

God this game is going to absolutely KILL any productivity/free time I'll have.
 
Interesting that the military victory only requires taking control of the capital - I'm not sure I like that change.
 
Forceman said:
Interesting that the military victory only requires taking control of the capital - I'm not sure I like that change.
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I always thought that should have a bigger impact than it does in the game...weaker nearby cities could either go nuetral, join the new regime or join a different civ or stronger cities (culturally I guess) might form thier own nation and pull in the surrounding cities...
 
Anyone else find the way they are dealing with mods fascinating? Instead of getting their knickers in a twist over it like the majority of companies they are letting you browse mods for civfanatics in game. Taking a fanatic user base and employing it to your own advantage instead of screwing your fans over... hmmm I know a lesson is in there somewhere *cough* ubisoft *cough*
 
auspexd said:
Anyone else find the way they are dealing with mods fascinating? Instead of getting their knickers in a twist over it like the majority of companies they are letting you browse mods for civfanatics in game. Taking a fanatic user base and employing it to your own advantage instead of screwing your fans over... hmmm I know a lesson is in there somewhere *cough* ubisoft *cough*
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Speaking of which i know this is a little off topic, but any other highly recommended Civ4 mods? I just got Rise of Mankind from this threads suggestion, should be checkint it out tonight. but I forgot all about mods i used to have a lot for civ2.
 
JoNo216 said:
Speaking of which i know this is a little off topic, but any other highly recommended Civ4 mods? I just got Rise of Mankind from this threads suggestion, should be checkint it out tonight. but I forgot all about mods i used to have a lot for civ2.
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You don't need any other mods. Check out the RoM Mod Mods section, there are a couple okay ones in there, but for the most part, RoM should be all you need.
 
If you don't want to go with a whole new game, which is basically what RoM is if I remember correctly, you can just get Better Beyond the Sword AI (Better BTS AI), which improves the game quite a bit (assuming you have BTS). There's also a nice interface mod, but heck if I can remember what it is called.
 
Is there anything like civilization with more emphasis on political relations and/or development? I really suck at the military combat in this game for some reason, but I without war it's pretty zzz.
 
I think the GamePro article is all I'm going to read on this game. It sold me enough on it that I don't need to see or hear anymore about it. Civ has always been a series where I like to be surprised about little changes and big changes and so on. I hope they're planning to ship it with a big manual and big poster. This is one game that really is going to need them, plus it would be a nice call back to the days when there was a point to buying physical copies of games.
 
auspexd said:
Anyone else find the way they are dealing with mods fascinating? Instead of getting their knickers in a twist over it like the majority of companies they are letting you browse mods for civfanatics in game. Taking a fanatic user base and employing it to your own advantage instead of screwing your fans over... hmmm I know a lesson is in there somewhere *cough* ubisoft *cough*
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Fascinating is the wrong word, but I know what you're saying. The thing is, a game like Civ lives and dies by its single-player. Sure some people play that weird over-email multiplayer mode or whatever, but for the majority Civ is a game you play against the AI. With no multiplayer games that are "different" every time to keep people playing, it would be a bit foolish to try and stop people from modding the game.

What I find fascinating is that Brad Wardell is going on a modding "sabbatical" after Elemental ships.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/20/stardock-ceo-going-on-modding-sabbatical-after-elemental-ships/

I think it's pretty safe to say that at some point in the next year/year and a half I'll be playing Civ V: Stardock Edition...or whatever he calls his mod :p
 
They're making changes - and I like all of them (the shift to hexes has been over-due).

There's no point in re-doing Civ 1, or Civ 2, or Civ 3, or Civ 4 - if you like any one of those games, then you've already got it, haven't you? They have to advance this series by taking chances and by trying new things.

In particular, I love it that the lead designer is borrowing from my favorite strategy game of all time: Panzer General. I always felt that the combat in the Civ games was actually the weak link. All you were doing really was mashing units against one another. With combined arms tactics we'll be able to strategize our attacks and defenses.

I'd have to confess though that the first Civ game won me over completely, but actually since then no Civ game has really done it for me. After reading that Gamespot preview I'm convinced that Civ 5 could potentially be the greatest Civ game ever for me personally. They seem to have addressed every issue I've had with the series.
 
one thing I wish they would consider is a sorta campaign I realize the meat of civ is the sandbox random game each time but a campaign going thru the ages may be interestign aswell.

obviously just a line up of scenarios but it be nice.
 
DennisK4 said:
Interview about the changes in Civ 5

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-civilization-v/64088
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Whoa! Great interview.

I'd have to agree about Civ Revolution - the interface was incredibly clean, and yet all the information you needed was still there. Gamers sometimes make the mistake of thinking that a game, in order for it to be complex and challenging, must have a complex and challenging interface as well, and that's just not true. (I wish that the creators of ARMA 2 had thought more along these lines).

Also, you've gotta love the way that guy closes out the interview: "... Civilization will be available in the Fall of 2010... for the PC." :)
 
Sid Meier's Civilization V shipping with Steamworks.

Sid Meier's Civilization® V Shipping with Steamworks - Pre-Purchase Now! - Plus Save 75% on all existing Civilization titles on Steam
Announcement - Valve

2K Games and Valve today announced an agreement to power all PC versions of the highly anticipated Sid Meier's Civilization V with many of Steamworks' features and offer a special Digital Deluxe Edition via Steam. Customers who pre-order the regular or Digital Deluxe editions of Sid Meier's Civilization V on Steam will be rewarded with a free map pack when the game launches in fall 2010.

Sid Meier's Civilization V players will enjoy the benefits of the Steamworks' features included in all PC versions, such as auto-updating, Steam Achievements, downloadable content, ability to access from any computer*, multiplayer matchmatching and more.

Sid Meier's Civilization V Digital Deluxe Edition will expand players' conquests with the new Babylonian civilization and their ruler, Nebuchadnezzar II (c. 630 - c. 561 B.C.). As King of Babylon, gamers will be able to expand their empire with advanced Babylonian Bowmen to rightfully earn the title of Nebuchadnezzar the Great. Sid Meier's Civilization V Digital Deluxe Edition will also include an in-depth "Behind the Scenes at Firaxis with Civilization V" video feature, as well as the game's epic soundtrack.

Gamers who pre-order any version of Sid Meier's Civilization V from Steam will receive the downloadable bonus content, Cradle of Civilization Map Pack: Mesopotamia for free when the game is available. The map pack will let players experience the traditional Western and Middle Eastern "Cradle of Civilization." The pack will include the Fertile Crescent with the Nile River valley to the west and extending east down the Tigris and Euphrates river valleys to the Persian Gulf. Leaders will be able to explore new terrain, cultures and conquests.

For those who can't wait for the immersive experience of Sid Meier's Civilization V, 2K Games is proud to offer a Steam-wide 75% off sale on all previous Civilization titles for a limited time beginning May 6, 2010.

*In supported countries
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http://store.steampowered.com/news/3792/
 
So.... I can pay for the game at least 6 months before it's hypothetical launch based on one gameplayless video, 5 screenshots and 500 identically vague preview articles? Done.
 
Were those 2 pics from civ 5? Looks beautiful, and i'll probably be scooping it up on release day.
 
maademperor said:
I always thought that should have a bigger impact than it does in the game...weaker nearby cities could either go nuetral, join the new regime or join a different civ or stronger cities (culturally I guess) might form thier own nation and pull in the surrounding cities...
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Wasn't it Civ 2 that had it where if you capture the capital, it could cause a civil war to erupt, splitting the nation you are fighting with into 2? I always loved that, and missed it in all the other Civ games.
 
WabeWalker said:
No game is perfect. Even great games can be more perfect than what they are.

If anything, the Civ games need to be updated semi-regularly just to keep the graphics modern - usually that means a whole new engine and a whole new UI (so 'patching' the game isn't going to work.)

I can't think of one reason not to be excited about Civ 5.
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Ditto.

Civ 4 still holds up to me though. I am excited as hell about Civ 5 though. I already have my preorder in through steam. I foresee a future of being tired at work and having a PO;ed fiance... :p
 
DennisK4 said:


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Oh shit...


I never thought I'd say this, but I might have to upgrade my video card... ...for civilization...


We've come a long way since I spent countless hours with this in 1991:
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I really hope my existing system will suffice without knocking down all the settings to the lowest possible...
 
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