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BioShock Infinite

For those who have beaten the game, would it be wise to save my money instead of buying vigor upgrades from the vending machines? Is this game like Bioshock 1 & 2 where buying plasmids wasn't necessary as you could find them in the game world?
 
I just finished it on 1999 mode. It took me 20 hours. The final boss took me quite a few attempts.

The ending - my mind has been blown. Love that kind of stuff.
 
BETA. said:
For those who have beaten the game, would it be wise to save my money instead of buying vigor upgrades from the vending machines? Is this game like Bioshock 1 & 2 where buying plasmids wasn't necessary as you could find them in the game world?
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Vigor upgrades can only be purchased, you won't find any upgrades floating around.
 
BETA. said:
For those who have beaten the game, would it be wise to save my money instead of buying vigor upgrades from the vending machines? Is this game like Bioshock 1 & 2 where buying plasmids wasn't necessary as you could find them in the game world?
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Well obviously the Vigors themselves are "stumbled" upon.

Every once in a while you pick up "infusions" that allow you to add more health, shield or vigor "amounts".
But actual upgrades to what a Vigor can do have to be purchased.:D
 
So, do the game choices (throw the ball, pick heads/tails, pick cage/bird necklace, etc) result in a different ending?
 
ashmelev75 said:
So, do the game choices (throw the ball, pick heads/tails, pick cage/bird necklace, etc) result in a different ending?
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I'm wondering about this myself...how much of an impact do these 'choices' have?...I wasn't even able to 'throw the ball' at anyone because the timer expired too quickly while I was thinking about which option I wanted to pick...there's also a point in the game where it says something about stealing being bad yet the only thing that happened when I got caught was that the guy tried to kill me...I was hoping for something more subtle
 
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Kaitian said:
Don't know if I'm the only one but I noticed there's a crap load of 1800's Mormon parallels to this. Maybe it's just coincidence.
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It's very intentional, the games focus is essentially exploring the logical extreme of things like the Mormon Church, The Tea Party and ultra nationalism. I guess it seemed to be the next logical place to go for Ken Levine after focusing on Ayn Rand ultra objectivism.
 
Dion said:
Using an opinion to justify yourself. Good one.
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Yeah, I actually thought the hacking bits in Bioshock were a pretty unique and cool way to do it. It does get monotonous once you've done it 50 times, but it's still a fun little puzzle each time.
 
Duffbuster243 said:
Vigor upgrades can only be purchased, you won't find any upgrades floating around.
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Which is sad because they cost a fortune. The first time I reached a machine that sold Vigor upgrades, they were about twice as expensive as the amount of money I had, and that was with taking my time scavenging EVERYTHING.
 
MavericK96 said:
Which is sad because they cost a fortune. The first time I reached a machine that sold Vigor upgrades, they were about twice as expensive as the amount of money I had, and that was with taking my time scavenging EVERYTHING.
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in a way I'm glad that $$ has real value in the game and you have to be careful about deciding what to purchase...in most games you can buy everything the game has to offer with little or no trouble which nerfs the game a bit as you don't have to make any hard choices
 
polonyc2 said:
in a way I'm glad that $$ has real value in the game and you have to be careful about deciding what to purchase...in most games you can buy everything the game has to offer with little or no trouble which nerfs the game a bit as you don't have to make any hard choices
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Yeah I don't have a major problem with it, except I couldn't help but think that I would never be able to come back to this place again, so why make things more than you could possibly afford at that point?
 
Nothing was ever more than you could afford. Only VERY early on were there some vigor upgrades you couldn't afford. The point of showing them was basically to tell you that there are upgrades available and start saving your money. You could never afford to upgrade everything to max. You had to choose. I upgraded 2 or 3 guns to max and bought a couple vigor upgrades as well. I was also very liberal with my spending. I constantly topped off ammo, HP, and salts at vending machines. I had about 500 silver eagles when I finished the game.

Get the stun duration + chain aid for shock jockey. It's OP.
 
Just beat the game. Storyline is top notch but overall game play is pretty average and Bioshocktastic. Oh, and fuck defending stuff from waves of bad guys in a FPS. That idea of a "boss" fight needs to die and never return.
 
I'm disappointed with ending. Seriously, after you reach Tinkertown, the plot goes spiralling downhill and becoming worse than in any CoD game. And how anyone could be surprised with great revelation, when from like half of the game everything just point you at the ending.

Seriously, if this is 10/10 on most of sides, than it's not my gaming any more. Bioshock 1 was much, much better than this game. The "would you kindly" phrase and story of character was captivating, game design was great, and Rapture feel like underwater trap, filled with mad splicers. This one has nothing common with 1st part. Choices did matter, there were different endings, and it shown some moral choices, not like in this.

Also don't understand the praises Elisabeth gets - she is as irritating and useful as dog in Fable 2.
2K, "would you kindly" stop making more Bioshock games
 
MorgothPl said:
I'm disappointed with ending. Seriously, after you reach Tinkertown, the plot goes spiralling downhill and becoming worse than in any CoD game. And how anyone could be surprised with great revelation, when from like half of the game everything just point you at the ending.

Seriously, if this is 10/10 on most of sides, than it's not my gaming any more. Bioshock 1 was much, much better than this game. The "would you kindly" phrase and story of character was captivating, game design was great, and Rapture feel like underwater trap, filled with mad splicers. This one has nothing common with 1st part. Choices did matter, there were different endings, and it shown some moral choices, not like in this.

Also don't understand the praises Elisabeth gets - she is as irritating and useful as dog in Fable 2.
2K, "would you kindly" stop making more Bioshock games
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Whoa whoa whoa - Stop right there. Elizabeth is awesome.

And I liked the plot and the ending. The Luttece Twins have to be some of the best characters in a game in a while.
 
Q-BZ said:
Some of the complaints I'm seeing tells me people have done these yet: http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/27/b...o-videos-increase-fov-and-adjust-sensitivity/


The mouse sensitivity one is huge. I went min .05 and max to 1 and it made all the difference in the world. Do those tweaks, folks!
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Quick add: Any [H] person or PC gamer or FPS veteran should be playing this in 1999 mode. No excuses. ;)


Between the tweaks and 1999 mode the bulk of the criticisms and complaints I've seen in the last few pages simply wouldn't be and haven't been for me on my playthrough.

1999 mode all the way!
 
I think after you beat the game they should allow you to listen to all voxophones. I missed like 10, but I don't feel like replaying everything just to get those ones. I WANT TO HEAR THEM THOUGH!
 
Q-BZ said:
Between the tweaks and 1999 mode the bulk of the criticisms and complaints I've seen in the last few pages simply wouldn't be and haven't been for me on my playthrough.

1999 mode all the way!
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I might do that on a second playthrough. Hard mode so far seems hard enough...I can get dropped to half health with one shot sometimes.
 
I'm only giving my self 3 hours a day to play this, and I'm taking my time. I want to savor this... I'm really enjoying it.
 
Anyone having an issue where if you run BS:I with SBP or XBMC it will have horrible performance? I can launch the .exe or through regular Steam interface and it's fine. Rock solid 60fps with High shadows everything else ultra. Running through SBP or XBMC it cuts my framerate almost in have and feels like shit.
 
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Q-BZ said:
Quick add: Any [H] person or PC gamer or FPS veteran should be playing this in 1999 mode. No excuses. ;)


Between the tweaks and 1999 mode the bulk of the criticisms and complaints I've seen in the last few pages simply wouldn't be and haven't been for me on my playthrough.

1999 mode all the way!
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It's funny how a ton of people in this forum complain about the state of gaming and how it's catered to casuals all the time, yet most of them refuse to play in 1999 mode. I think that says a lot.
 
AceCR42 said:
It's funny how a ton of people in this forum complain about the state of gaming and how it's catered to casuals all the time, yet most of them refuse to play in 1999 mode. I think that says a lot.
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it's not about 'refusing' to play in 1999 mode...I always prefer for a 1st time run of the game to play in a challenging but not extreme difficulty so I can get used to the mechanics and layout of the game...on a subsequent playthrough it's all about max (or 1999 in Infinite's case)...I find it's hard to savor the world when playing on max too early as you have to deal with super strong enemies and tactics...I'm currently playing on 'Hard' and I'm enjoying it
 
AceCR42 said:
It's funny how a ton of people in this forum complain about the state of gaming and how it's catered to casuals all the time, yet most of them refuse to play in 1999 mode. I think that says a lot.
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I don't think anyone was complaining about those issues with this game. You can't just make a blanket statement like that.
 
polonyc2 said:
it's not about 'refusing' to play in 1999 mode...I always prefer for a 1st time run of the game to play in a challenging but not extreme difficulty so I can get used to the mechanics and layout of the game...on a subsequent playthrough it's all about max (or 1999 in Infinite's case)...I find it's hard to savor the world when playing on max too early as you have to deal with super strong enemies and tactics...I'm currently playing on 'Hard' and I'm enjoying it
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I prefer to play a game on the default setting because I would like to believe thats how the developers intended it to be played but as time goes by more and more PC games are ported from console and the default difficulty is left over as the developers hadn't really considered it in porting so now I'm playing on hard for this release.
 
piscian18 said:
I prefer to play a game on the default setting because I would like to believe thats how the developers intended it to be played but as time goes by more and more PC games are ported from console and the default difficulty is left over as the developers hadn't really considered it in porting so now I'm playing on hard for this release.
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I'm not sure if the default difficulty is how 'developers intend for the game to be played'...I think it has more to do with the fact that they are trying to balance the game from being too difficult (where people will get frustrated and quit) versus being too easy...I think developers just want you to finish the game...developer intent is more visible with AI and other programming situations
 
Tyrsis said:
I'm only giving my self 3 hours a day to play this, and I'm taking my time. I want to savor this... I'm really enjoying it.
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Hah, little life hax for you... get married, 3 hours a day to game becomes impossible! :D
 
I thought of this today which I thought was cool.

I was thinking about the appearance of Rapture at the end of the game. Obviously the vigors are related to plasmids from the first games. I just realized that Fink says in one of his voxophone recordings that he was observing a biologist through a tear. That was certainly Dr. Tenenbaum which led to Fink mass producing the vigors in Columbia. And I'm assuming he also saw Big Daddies which were the inspiration for Songbird.
 
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Duffbuster243 said:
Vigor upgrades can only be purchased, you won't find any upgrades floating around.
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magoo said:
Well obviously the Vigors themselves are "stumbled" upon.

Every once in a while you pick up "infusions" that allow you to add more health, shield or vigor "amounts".
But actual upgrades to what a Vigor can do have to be purchased.:D
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big_aug said:
Nothing was ever more than you could afford. Only VERY early on were there some vigor upgrades you couldn't afford. The point of showing them was basically to tell you that there are upgrades available and start saving your money. You could never afford to upgrade everything to max. You had to choose. I upgraded 2 or 3 guns to max and bought a couple vigor upgrades as well. I was also very liberal with my spending. I constantly topped off ammo, HP, and salts at vending machines. I had about 500 silver eagles when I finished the game.

Get the stun duration + chain aid for shock jockey. It's OP.
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Well that sucks, I was hoping to get everything maxed out by the end of the game, just to feel accomplished. Guess that isn't do-able, hate that.
 
BETA. said:
Well that sucks, I was hoping to get everything maxed out by the end of the game, just to feel accomplished. Guess that isn't do-able, hate that.
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Well, I was on 1999 mode. There might be more money on easier difficulties. And like I said, I spent a lot on ammo and stuff. I used pistol, shotgun, sniper rifle, and carbine almost exclusively. If you actually drop and switch weapons instead of buying ammo, you'd have way more money for upgrades.
 
it's not just $$ that you need to save carefully but even those lockpicks are hard to find to open up all the safes and secret rooms...some safes require 5 lockpicks...even exploring every inch of the map makes completing everything almost impossible...is there a free roam option after you complete the game?
 
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