Battlefield V

TheMadHatterXxX said:
He just wants to walk in and ROFLPwn everyone. The game has been lacking the biggest counter to tanks the last 2 iterations so people have just gotten used to that mentality: Attack choppers.
I'm so glad they made it so you have to resupply for ammo and not that casual infinite ammo crap. All this game needs is the commanders again to direct squads to bring it back to the original days, there are way too many people right now that just leave capture points immediately right after capping them instead of contesting it when the enemy squad roles back around.
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Battlefield 1 had plenty of counters to tanks, the main one being planes with a tank hunter kit. Those were total bastards and more often than not if one spotted you, then you were fucked and there wasn't much if anything you could do about it. 2 hits from its main cannon and a bomb drop all in one pass took out any tank.

And now in BFv dice seen fit to give bombers a laser guided 3rd person bomb sight so fucking tanks in the ass (and just about anything else that moves) is easier than ever.



That video says it all, and that's just on the first loadout, the bomber is capable of carrying much heavier bombs.
 
Right, but properly outfitted AA will wreck a bomber. Not to mention you can tow a guy with a flak cannon.

I ran around on that big wrecked bridge map with a Valentine and my buddy on a flak cannon I was towing behind me and we were obliterating anything that showed up on our half of the map.
 
Chris_B said:
And now in BFv dice seen fit to give bombers a laser guided 3rd person bomb sight so fucking tanks in the ass (and just about anything else that moves) is easier than ever.
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Pointing out problems with the game is a good thing, if done correctly and in the right place. The bombers are one thing that the devs already know need to be balanced. So expect that in a future patch.

But keep in mind one thing. The game has only been out since 8th and also not "officially" released.
Don't expect a game like this to be near perfect so soon. All BF games need some kind of balance post launch since a lot of times players end up finding something "overpowered" that the devs missed in internal testings.
 
Chris_B said:
Battlefield 1 had plenty of counters to tanks, the main one being planes with a tank hunter kit. Those were total bastards and more often than not if one spotted you, then you were fucked and there wasn't much if anything you could do about it. 2 hits from its main cannon and a bomb drop all in one pass took out any tank.

And now in BFv dice seen fit to give bombers a laser guided 3rd person bomb sight so fucking tanks in the ass (and just about anything else that moves) is easier than ever.



That video says it all, and that's just on the first loadout, the bomber is capable of carrying much heavier bombs.
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and the maps that didn't have planes?
 
I tried my best to shoot down bombers on Hamada and couldn't do shit to them. A dozen hits and they're perfectly fine. I'm trying to level my vehicles up so I can get the AA tank but fuck this is absurd.

And if you haven't played Fjell against half decent pilots you're in for such a treat :/
 
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Gabe3 said:
and the maps that didn't have planes?
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You had at rocket guns, tank mines, anti tank grenades, k bullets, tank gewehr elite's, other opposing tanks. Not exactly a lack of options.
 
Mchart said:
Right, but properly outfitted AA will wreck a bomber. Not to mention you can tow a guy with a flak cannon.

I ran around on that big wrecked bridge map with a Valentine and my buddy on a flak cannon I was towing behind me and we were obliterating anything that showed up on our half of the map.
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Depends a lot on the aircraft, fighter planes are easy enough to take down, bombers can take a lot more of a kicking. The AA valentine is pretty good at dealing out damage to bombers, but as yet not a lot of people have those.
 
Chris_B said:
You had at rocket guns, tank mines, anti tank grenades, k bullets, tank gewehr elite's, other opposing tanks. Not exactly a lack of options.
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yet with all that it was pretty easy for me to go 20-1 in a tank.
 
Gabe3 said:
yet with all that it was pretty easy for me to go 20-1 in a tank.
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Depends entirely on the team you go up against and if the teams have any degree of balance or are heavily stacked.
 
Chris_B said:
Depends entirely on the team you go up against and if the teams have any degree of balance or are heavily stacked.
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yeah but the fast movement speed of the tanks, fast turret speed, and unlimited ammo made takes more OP than I think they were in previous battlefields. I think something had to be changed with this bf.
 
Snappshoota said:
Because tanks?!

Couldnt stand the squids in BF1 that sat in a vehicle all game, run the scoreboard, yet the second they get out the tank they cant shoot someone standing still..

Im pretty impressed with what ive played this weekend, feels like a kick in the right direction that the BF series needed.
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Ya tanks. I play in Saudi Arabia with a cell phone internet connection to European servers. I physically can't compete with other players due to the lag and packet loss in FPS mode. Besides, FPS mode IMO PUBG is much better. Tanks are nice because I'm damn good at armor play. I was like the top 0.01% in BF3 armor play. But they went crazy in how bad they made armor in BFV. No fun = no play.
 
Vega said:
Ya tanks. I play in Saudi Arabia with a cell phone internet connection to European servers. I physically can't compete with other players due to the lag and packet loss in FPS mode. Besides, FPS mode IMO PUBG is much better. Tanks are nice because I'm damn good at armor play. I was like the top 0.01% in BF3 armor play. But they went crazy in how bad they made armor in BFV. No fun = no play.
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To be fair this is more of an issue with you - not the game. Eventually a shit internet connection was going to fail you.
 
Chris_B said:
Depends a lot on the aircraft, fighter planes are easy enough to take down, bombers can take a lot more of a kicking. The AA valentine is pretty good at dealing out damage to bombers, but as yet not a lot of people have those.
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True, but that's only because people haven't figured it out.

AA becomes so OP in this game that i'm glad they limit it to only 1 AA vehicle spawned at a time.

BTW the flak panzer is just as good against bombers with the 37mm cannon upgrade - It just looses ease of use against fast movers and ass raping infantry.

The valentines 'upgrade' is triple .50cal's but this is a downgrade in my opinion as the larger cannon is far more effective against bombers.

Finally, as I mentioned, tank drivers need to be team playing to be more effective. If you've got a team mate being towed around who's in a flak cannon you've instantly not only have AA - You also have a guy that can repair you.

Being able to tow around AA/AT guns in this game is such a cool feature that most players haven't figured out yet.
 
Vega said:
No fun = no play.
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yeah man that's ultimately what matters. we all approach games from different perspectives based on what we're looking to get out of them. if you're not having fun there's no point in wasting your time on it.
 
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Just like anything else it depends on playstyle with tanks.

I agree on a few things. The bombers are ridiculous. They definitely need to be toned down in some kind of way. The videos of players racking up 80+ kills in one round just proves this. They obliterate just about anything that moves with carpet bombing. Ammo in tanks is definitely very limited. I don't mind going back for a re-supply. But there needs to be more re-supply sites. Or at least areas where re-supplies could be built via fortifications.

Also don't expect to be able to push objectives with a tank and be in the forefront. Most objectives are in areas surrounded by hiding places such as buildings. A tank will get flanked horribly by rockets/explosives/grenades. Unless a squad goes in and clears every single building, it's just a bad idea. It's much better to hang back and allow armor to provide support. Away from hiding places. A good place where you can get an overview of the objective and wipe out any enemies trying to flank the squad taking the objective. I have had great luck in armor by doing this. I've actually gone some rounds never dying in a tank and having to go back several times for ammo, which gets a little old.
 
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Well the game isn't really that bad, I just wish it was more of a modern setting, its definitely more entertaining than BO4, but I do prefer not using my brain and just pointing my mouse at shit lol.
 
Mchart said:
To be fair this is more of an issue with you - not the game. Eventually a shit internet connection was going to fail you.
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Ya but my point is my internet connection shouldn't matter for tank play. Tanks are rubbish in this game regardless of your internet and play style.

JasonPC said:
Just like anything else it depends on playstyle with tanks.

I agree on a few things. The bombers are ridiculous. They definitely need to be toned down in some kind of way. The videos of players racking up 80+ kills in one round just proves this. They obliterate just about anything that moves with carpet bombing. Ammo in tanks is definitely very limited. I don't mind going back for a re-supply. But there needs to be more re-supply sites. Or at least areas where re-supplies could be built via fortifications.

Also don't expect to be able to push objectives with a tank and be in the forefront. Most objectives are in areas surrounded by hiding places such as buildings. A tank will get flanked horribly by rockets/explosives/grenades. Unless a squad goes in and clears every single building, it's just a bad idea. It's much better to hang back and allow armor to provide support. Away from hiding places. A good place where you can get an overview of the objective and wipe out any enemies trying to flank the squad taking the objective. I have had great luck in armor by doing this. I've actually gone some rounds never dying in a tank and having to go back several times for ammo, which gets a little old.
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I noticed this too. You basically park a tank up on a hill and plink at people. It's basically a slow moving machine-gun platform. The old days of storming points, taking points, epic tank battles are over. Armor in this game is boring as hell.
 
Flogger23m said:
Well no shit. They're turning BF into a service. People whined about Premium/Seasons passes and whatnot, and people who didn't want silly customization were "on the wrong side of history". Whatever fad takes hold in the next 6-12 months will shape BFV. The game you get today may be entirely different a year from now. They're scrape to the bottom of the barrel to milk a few cents out of it. This is immeasurably worse than paying a little more for a lot of content that is designed around the game. But that is the state of modern multiplayer gaming sadly.
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If it is going to be s service, then you should be able to use one account across multiple platforms. Like so many other pay for services that are out there.

I have had Battlefields (and other games) across multiple platforms for years. BF V is the latest. Yet I have to have separate accounts, and level up both accounts on the PC and PS4, which is just silly. There should be ONE account, that you can access on multiple systems. My PSN account is linked to my Origin, yet it will won't let me use just one account. It's maddening having to level up two accounts.

As far as the game goes, I am enjoying it overall. Few minor issues, but I am having a blast with it.

The update is out for the PC as of now too.
 
Can anyone provide feedback on how Ray Tracing is working for them on DX12? It's active now with the latest drivers and patch.
 
Sprayingmango said:
Can anyone provide feedback on how Ray Tracing is working for them on DX12? It's active now with the latest drivers and patch.
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There are frame pacing issues according to TPU and G3D. Also looks like there is no difference in performance between the reflection quality settings. 60'ish FPS with a Ti at 1920x1080, 20'ish at 4K.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/battlefield-v-raytracing-features-are-now-enabled.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/249557/battlefield-v-with-rtx-initial-tests-performance-halved
 
Armenius said:
There are frame pacing issues according to TPU and G3D. Also looks like there is no difference in performance between the reflection quality settings. 60'ish FPS with a Ti at 1920x1080, 20'ish at 4K.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/battlefield-v-raytracing-features-are-now-enabled.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/249557/battlefield-v-with-rtx-initial-tests-performance-halved
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1080P LOL! I'm sorry but if people are still playing these games at 1080P in 2018 they are doing something wrong....

That being said...this is sad if at 4k it can only manage 20 ish FPS on a 2080Ti....
 
If i have the premium subscription do I also need to buy the game?

I feel like this game will improve significantly but right now it is not great.
 
Sprayingmango said:
1080P LOL! I'm sorry but if people are still playing these games at 1080P in 2018 they are doing something wrong....

That being said...this is sad if at 4k it can only manage 20 ish FPS on a 2080Ti....
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LED, even IPS, just doesn’t cut it. And the only OLEDs are TVs...
 
Why would anyone want ray tracing while playing MP. I want fast framerates.....Too much fucking action going on to stop and say "O look that reflection looks badass" I mean seriously. Maybe for the SP part of the game it would be cool though
 
Yeah - I'm not willing to blame 100% of the poor performance entirely on DXR. DXR will of course have a FPS impact - But even without enabled DXR DX12 still runs like shit. We need DICE to fix DX12 in the Frostbite engine first.

I played a little this morning - The repair speed on tanks seems to have increased - That was a big thing I noticed off the bat.
 
I tried the trial for about 3 hours. In its current state this game isn't for me.

I hate digging through the menus for unlocks. It seems like I have to wait for things to load. Then I click something, but oh it was changing in the background so I picked the wrong thing.

I hate the playlist/matchmaking model. While yes there is a server browser, you are still stuck with servers running a playlist. I joined a domination server only to get thrown into a Team Deathmatch round. I quit and tried again only to find myself in a frontlines match. This also means people will just quit when the match starts and they see the map isn't one they want to play. There is no word on when or if server rentals will be making an appearance or if it will be improved in anyway from the limitations of BF1.

I don't love any of the current maps or at least the ones I have seen. Fighting indoors in cities was a nice change in BF3 and BF4 since most FPS games focused instead on outdoor maps. Now we are back to mostly outdoors which I have zero interest to play again.

This is probably due more to my old PC running a 7970, but I find it difficult to see in most places and everything just blends together. I can't tell foe from friend or even if it is someone, and I just don't find it fun as a result.

Maybe 6 months from now I will revisit, but for now I don't see any reason to pick it up for me.


Sprayingmango said:
1080P LOL! I'm sorry but if people are still playing these games at 1080P in 2018 they are doing something wrong....
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Or using a PC built in 2013 since nothing has come out that justifies building a new one.
 
Yeah. A 7970 just isn't going to work. My 3770k and 980 runs it fine at 1080p though. The servers are currently running a mixed bag of modes and maps btw. Since it is early access of a sort. Yeah. No private servers be is a fucking bummer.
 
brennok said:
I tried the trial for about 3 hours. In its current state this game isn't for me.

I hate digging through the menus for unlocks. It seems like I have to wait for things to load. Then I click something, but oh it was changing in the background so I picked the wrong thing.

I hate the playlist/matchmaking model. While yes there is a server browser, you are still stuck with servers running a playlist. I joined a domination server only to get thrown into a Team Deathmatch round. I quit and tried again only to find myself in a frontlines match. This also means people will just quit when the match starts and they see the map isn't one they want to play. There is no word on when or if server rentals will be making an appearance or if it will be improved in anyway from the limitations of BF1.

I don't love any of the current maps or at least the ones I have seen. Fighting indoors in cities was a nice change in BF3 and BF4 since most FPS games focused instead on outdoor maps. Now we are back to mostly outdoors which I have zero interest to play again.

This is probably due more to my old PC running a 7970, but I find it difficult to see in most places and everything just blends together. I can't tell foe from friend or even if it is someone, and I just don't find it fun as a result.

Maybe 6 months from now I will revisit, but for now I don't see any reason to pick it up for me.




Or using a PC built in 2013 since nothing has come out that justifies building a new one.
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Plenty of shit has dropped since 2013 that justifies building a new PC, just say you're broke its easier and makes more sense... BF3 and a 7970 when they dropped weren't giving you steady 80+ frames on Ultra back then...

Play Devastation, you'll enjoy it, but yes, the menus and having to swap shit for 2 different factions is annoying.
 
lol @ all the people who bought into Raytracing & are getting crappy frames per second. We all told you it would happen. Never buy the first generation of anything.
 
Krenum said:
lol @ all the people who bought into Raytracing & are getting crappy frames per second. We all told you it would happen. Never buy the first generation of anything.
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I think most people bought the 2080 ti for its performance, and ray tracing is just something to try out. at least I hope thats why they bought it, lol.
 
Gabe3 said:
I think most people bought the 2080 ti for its performance, and ray tracing is just something to try out. at least I hope thats why they bought it, lol.
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Maybe, but that's certainly not how it was marketed by the green eyed monster.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
You mean, you bought into Nvidia's marketing?

Lol...
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Heck no. Never. I always wait for the guinea pigs to buy "the hot new item" first. Then make my decision. Besides that, I run a Freesync monitor, buying Nvidia wouldn't make any sense to me.
 
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