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Thanks for all the work you did here Optimummind....but, I guess for those of us with Asrock 775dualVSTAs without another motherboard to do the BIOS flash, we're still outta luck, eh?
Guess we'll have to wait on ASrock.
FYI, official response from ASrock on this issue:
"Unfortunately, 775Dual-VSTA (VIA PT800 Pro/Ultra chipset) does not support Nvidia GEN2 mode PCIE VGA card.
The only solution is to set 8800GT GEN2 mode PCIE VGA card to GEN1 mode. Please refer to the video card manufacture to have further information on how to flash the VGA card Bios to GEN1 mode.
ASRock America Technical Support
Email: [email protected]"
Pretty much what I expected, but not so good news for those of us who don't want to go out and buy a new motherboard just to flash the card. I wonder if we could boot up the PC with the old AGP card in (and the 8800gt) and then flash the BIOS ?
Thoughts, anyone?
FYI, official response from ASrock on this issue:
"Unfortunately, 775Dual-VSTA (VIA PT800 Pro/Ultra chipset) does not support Nvidia GEN2 mode PCIE VGA card.
The only solution is to set 8800GT GEN2 mode PCIE VGA card to GEN1 mode. Please refer to the video card manufacture to have further information on how to flash the VGA card Bios to GEN1 mode.
ASRock America Technical Support
Email: [email protected]"
Pretty much what I expected, but not so good news for those of us who don't want to go out and buy a new motherboard just to flash the card. I wonder if we could boot up the PC with the old AGP card in (and the 8800gt) and then flash the BIOS ?
Thoughts, anyone?
I got the ASUS GEN1 BIOS from the ASRock techs and risked it on my Inno3D card.
** My 8800GT now works with my 775Dual VSTA
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I have a few questions about this fascinating thread:
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3. Shouldn't the name of this thread be changed to reflect the fact that the asrock motherboard is COMPATIBLE with the 8800 series since all 8800 gt and gts cards are now verified to work (8800gtx and ultra don't work)?
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Although it was fun building and re-building these two systems to benchmark them, I don't think I can do too much of it for long. Imagine what professional reviewers have to go through when they do one of those massive mobo or videocard shootout comparisons.
-Optimummind
There's an outside chance it would, since a similar shell game is what keeps me going with my (supposedly compatible) 8600GT. Now that I have a PCI-E card (the 8800GT was going to be my first), I think I'll just make my planned mobo upgrade before I step-up to the 8800, thus avoiding all the drama. MSI 650i SLI board is $85 now after MIR.
The AMD 2xxx pcie cards are pcie 2.0, and appear to work fine on the VIA PT880/pro chipset.
I may be wrong but, the 2xxx series cards are not PCI-E 2.0...
From what I see, the 8800GT is the ONLY
PCI-E 2.0 card that I'm aware of...
Correct me if I'm wrong...
I wonder if we could boot up the PC with the old AGP card in (and the 8800gt) and then flash the BIOS ?
Thoughts, anyone?
Where did you see the MSI 650i for that price? How is the overclocking on that board?
No, you're correct. 8800GT is FIRST PCIE 2.0 GPU. ATI's first PCIE 2.0 card is their RV670 GPU.
-Optimummind
I just flashed my video bios with the ASUS one posted here in this forum. The card still works so it I think it was a success. Have to wait till I try it in my 4CoreDual-VSTA to make sure.
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It works great! No problems at all. Games run at highest settings fine. Not as good as I was hoping but I guess that is what I get for getting a cheap processor and memory.
3dmark 2005 - 7800
3dmark 2006 - 5600
Pentium D 2.8
2Gb DDR2 667
MSI 8800GT
Vista x64 Ultimate
I think your memory is fine but your CPU is definitely holding you back. That score is even lower than my old 1900XT 512MB running with a E6600 2.4GHz on an old VIA PT880Pro chipset (ASRock 775Dual-VSTA).
Since you can reuse most of your parts, I say just buy a new motherboard and a Core 2 CPU. You'll see your score go beyond 10,000.
-Optimummind
Nvidia has allowed X4 functionality on 8800 series cards with latest driver update. Card now works on Asrock 775 Dual VSTA motherboard. See end of thread.
Nvidia has broken native X4 functionality again on 8800GT cards. Bios flash required to workaround
So, umm which driver set works then with the AsRock without flashing because if it worked with 1 set then a another set breaking it means, you can still use the old set right?
Will this card work on the Asrock Dual Vista ? http://evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=640-P2-N829-A1
It's the newer GTS line of cards but are they PCIE2.0 now like the 8800GT or still the older PCIE 1.0 like the older GTS cards ?
Will this card work on the Asrock Dual Vista ? http://evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=640-P2-N829-A1
It's the newer GTS line of cards but are they PCIE2.0 now like the 8800GT or still the older PCIE 1.0 like the older GTS cards ?
Dear ASRock America Customer,
We tested nVidia 8800GT 2.0 on 939Dual-SATA2 with no problem.
The PCIE slot of 939Dual-SATA2 is 1.0a.
Please check with nVidia if the performance will be reduced on PCIE 1.0a
motherboard.
ASRock America Technical Support
Email: [email protected]
Hello all...well, I went ahead and bought an EVGA 8800GT card because Optimummind who posted here earlier said he received a flash update from them, and I have an ASrock 775DUAL-VSTA which is not compatible. However--I just contacted EVGA support and they say, nope, we don't have that??
Optimumind, if you're still monitoring this forum, can you let me know who you contacted at EVGA?
-Darthbart
I asked at the Nibitor forum and apparently they are almost ready to release a new version which will include the PCIe GEN1/GEN2 option.
So hopefully you could just use Nibitor to read the BIOS, modify to GEN1 and then reboot and flash the modified BIOS.
http://www.mvktech.net/component/op...iew/id,46735/catid,13/limit,10/limitstart,30/
Well, so much for the vaunted EVGA support.
I called and they said, "We have no official BIOS for the 8800GT at this time." Even though I said someone had spoken to Mr. Parra in product management, all they could say was, "We don't have it."
So, I may just flash with the ASUS bios published here on an earlier page (the same one Optimummind used) and simply be sure to keep a backup of the EVGA 8800GT native BIOS just in case.
...or should I wait for Makve to update Nibitor? Same difference??
...or should I call this guy directly?
ugh
Optimummind:
With a week or so under your belt with the 8800GT and the ASrock, how are you enjoying it?
Still holding up OK?