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Ungood said:There have been absolutely NO vibrations from this thing. I can barely even hear the seeks from my Raptor now that I have this case. The door was a little bit sticky initially, but after maybe 5-10 times opening it all the way, it works like a charm now. I don't understand people saying you have to push on it a special way, you really don't need to. The biggest beef I have with the case is how difficult it was to get the PSU in. I'm really not looking forward to replacing my PSU fan with something quieter. No rust that I can see.
Erasmus354 said:Apparently to open the door the full 270 degrees you need to "release" the second hinge by pressing on the top and bottom of the door. I cant tell you out of experience since I have not recieved my P180 yet, but that is what SPCR said.
IceWind said:How's the intial airflow and temps been? I plan on moving my drives to the bottom, removing the upper HDD tray to allow maximum airflow into the main chamber, then use the duct in conjenction with the blowhole fan as I feel the two combined may cause to much of a "negative" pressure in the case, plus its one less fan making noise.
Is the top fan secured well? Does it have any insulation to reduce vibration? Sorry, im getting giddy over here looking at your pics.
oh, and I bet the dust filters are gonna help you alot.
Ungood said:I haven't really played around with temperature monitoring much, so I can't give a super accurate reading on that. Idle is 33c on a Venice 3200+ cooled by a Freezer 64. The top fan is screwed directly into the case with two screws. The other two mounting positions are with small metal brackets that the fan slides into.
You'll want to be gentle with the door, as I just noticed I broke the top two retaining tabs for the side door. Thankfully, I work at the store I bought it at, so I can get a replacement easily enough. They're plastic, so they're not super strong.
Usually the HDD lights are controlled by the MB. I'd check the manual.Screwz Luse said:Maybe a newbish question, but is it possible to have HD1 only blink with my primary hard drive and HD2 blink with the slave? Like, to connect them directly to the hard drive or something?
Ungood said:The "spoiler" is low key enough to not really ruin the lines of the case, in my opinion. I'm a huge fan of clean lines and understatement when it comes to computer cases, and this doesn't bug me at all.
The P180 is far from perfect. Given the wide range of applications, there can be no single perfect case. As befits a product of a life-long experimenter, the P180 allows for a huge range of configurations without any modifications. The P180 was designed to be quiet and cool right out of the box even if used to house a system of very hot components. It is a distillation of my knowledge about computer thermal and noise management combined with Antec's professional and commercial expertise in the fabrication of PC cases, circa late-2004.
The cooling concept is simple: Use either exhaust fan or both fans as needed, at the appropriate speed setting. Because there are no other vent holes, outside air will be pulled in through the front main vent. At the low speed, the Tri Cool fan is quiet, and when set to this speed, even both fans running do not make much noise. Together, the two fans can pull a great of air through the main chamber, even set to low speed. With the option for the third front intake fan, there are many possible airflow options. This is a deliberate part of the design, to allow for many options without any modification
The juxtaposition of the power supply and the 4-bay hard drive cage in the separate bottom compartment is a key aspect of the P180's design. There is a fan mounting spot and a supplied 120 x 38 mm 3-speed fan but the fan generally needs to be used only with a fanless power supply. In normal use, virtually any normal or quiet fan-cooled PSU should draw enough air from the front vent of the bottom chamber to keep the hard drives cool. It should also have no trouble keeping itself cool without ramping up in speed.
Wally said:Yeah, i just don't like inefficiency, but i guess it must be beneficial in some way, or they wouldn't have done it. it just seems to me a bit like:
http://img101.echo.cx/img101/7421/p180binsidedevd2sq.jpg
Heh, i do love photoshop. That was fun
No, silly-- he just doesn't like inefficiency.shaky said:And how old are you? Are you bitter because your mom won't buy you the P180?
shaky said:And how old are you? Are you bitter because your mom won't buy you the P180?
Wally said:OMG, read my other posts, i love this case and want one now. I'm just a bit surprised i'm alone in thinking that two 120mm fans right next to each other aren't as good as maybe an intake on the front to avoid negative air pressure, which means less efficient cooling of components
AntecRep said:The 2 upper 120mm's give us a better chance to have the P180 be Intel TAC compliant (currently in testing, so it's not TAC yet).
And yes flexibility was the idea overall.
AntecRep
DieLate said:I don't think it would work too well without some sort of duct, as it seems they would go below where the RAM is. It looks to be about horizontally even with the top PCI-E cards.
After a rough measurement, the door has about 3/4" clearance between the door and the drive bays. I would think there would be plenty of room.DieLate said:The case door; how much clearance is behind it? Would a fan controller which protrudes 1/4" or slightly less allow it to still close?
shaky said:Sorry guys but I gotta vent. I pre-ordered this case at FrontierPC.com (200 CAD) and shipping was scheduled for mid-June. It's now been pushed to mid-JULY without even so much as a fucking e-mail to let their own customers know. Pretty unprofessional in my book. If there's something I hate about online retailers is that they often let their customers in the dark.
So now here we are, some people are already posting pics of their new shiny P180. I'm very close to cancelling my order with FrontierPC, not at all impressed.
/rant
mdlestat said:This is the justification I make to feel better about not having the thing under my desk right now, anyway...